OddBall1st
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Israel did the same thing, almost exactly,...only it was during the Cold War and they mission killed our spyship by trying to sink it.
Many dead Israel forgiven.
Many dead Israel forgiven.
Russian jet shot down by Turkey
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2ANONYMOUS
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One has to ask if this was a US plane what do you think might happen ??
nato allie or not
I believe this meeting is a cover turkeys ass meeting get all the P's and Q in line I am pretty sure now Russia will shoot any turkish plane in there immediate area no more just radar lock it will be shoot to kill
We just have to Look at the mess that Obama has created. Obama invited terrorist into Iraq when he abandoned it in 2012 after being warned by American and Iraqi generals to leave some American forces or the terrorists would invade. Then Obama did nothing for more than 2 years as the terrorist invaded and took control of parts of Iraq and Syria. Then Obama and NATO panicking at the situation made a deal with the devil and brought in their own Muslim terrorists, who they laughingly call "rebels", to try to overthrow Syrian government instead of fighting the other terrorist. And now Obama and NATO's Muslim terrorists, after shooting down the Russian jet and killing the Russian pilots (which is a war crime) have quite possibly started World War III. Way to go Obama, you affirmative action hire joke.
nato allie or not
I believe this meeting is a cover turkeys ass meeting get all the P's and Q in line I am pretty sure now Russia will shoot any turkish plane in there immediate area no more just radar lock it will be shoot to kill
We just have to Look at the mess that Obama has created. Obama invited terrorist into Iraq when he abandoned it in 2012 after being warned by American and Iraqi generals to leave some American forces or the terrorists would invade. Then Obama did nothing for more than 2 years as the terrorist invaded and took control of parts of Iraq and Syria. Then Obama and NATO panicking at the situation made a deal with the devil and brought in their own Muslim terrorists, who they laughingly call "rebels", to try to overthrow Syrian government instead of fighting the other terrorist. And now Obama and NATO's Muslim terrorists, after shooting down the Russian jet and killing the Russian pilots (which is a war crime) have quite possibly started World War III. Way to go Obama, you affirmative action hire joke.
2ANONYMOUS
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You think ?? well as we speak looks like a Russia has sent the Cruiser moskva off the coast of guess who ?? and that any target posing a threat will be destroyed oh fuck Eh one thing is you do not fuck with a country ready to stick back and has to answer to know one like NATO turkey is going to be left for there own demise Nato will infact not back em up but hey week is still early lets see what happens by the week end
We warn that every target posing a potential threat will be destroyed,”lieutenant general Sergey Rudskoy said during the briefing.
“All military contacts with Turkey will be suspended,” he added.
Furthermore, as the Russian Ministry of Defense explained, going forward, any Turkish plane that enters Syrian airspace will be fair game.
Flaming Pie
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Damn.
Flaming Pie
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http://mobile.nytimes.com/2015/11/25/world/europe/turkey-syria-russia-military-plane.html?referer=https://www.google.com/
Turkey wants Mr. Assad gone, and has allowed its border with Syria to be an easy crossing point for Syrian rebels, including those the West regards as terrorists or radical Islamists; Russia wants to prop up Mr. Assad and his government. While Moscow says it is attacking the Islamic State, for the most part Russian planes and troops have been attacking the Syrian rebels, some of whom are supported by the United States and the West, who most threaten Mr. Assad’s rule.
Turkey wants Mr. Assad gone, and has allowed its border with Syria to be an easy crossing point for Syrian rebels, including those the West regards as terrorists or radical Islamists; Russia wants to prop up Mr. Assad and his government. While Moscow says it is attacking the Islamic State, for the most part Russian planes and troops have been attacking the Syrian rebels, some of whom are supported by the United States and the West, who most threaten Mr. Assad’s rule.
OddBall1st
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Well I`ll tell ya Pilgram,.....Ole Putin`s gonna scramble NATO, I don`t expect shooting Turkey as most will. I suspect that Moscow will drop down on Ukraine again and spread out the enemies. Something in Turkey will cook. Obama`s blessing again paves the way for Russian forces to defend themselves just like turkey.
So Tex, don`t expect to see or hear what happens, it will be another embarrassment for Obama. Keep your eye on the sparrow, when the going get`s narrow.
A naval build up in Syria By Russia, ....moves that NATO base. It`s Turkey`s only line of defense.
Flaming Pie
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Woa
What may make matters worse is that those same tribesmen say they shot and killed both Russian pilots as they floated to earth in their parachutes, having apparently ejected safely after the plane was hit by air-to-air missiles. The tribesmen then reportedly destroyed a Russian helicopter with a TOW antitank missile as it tried to rescue the airmen.
What may make matters worse is that those same tribesmen say they shot and killed both Russian pilots as they floated to earth in their parachutes, having apparently ejected safely after the plane was hit by air-to-air missiles. The tribesmen then reportedly destroyed a Russian helicopter with a TOW antitank missile as it tried to rescue the airmen.
2ANONYMOUS
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Russian and Chinese military sources now confirm that Chinese warships are en route to the Middle East to get in on some of the action of humiliating the U.S.
In just a week and a half, Moscow has upended the dynamics of power in the Mideast by taking on the role that President Obama relinquished: acting like a superpower in a regional conflict that has implications extending far beyond the region.
Russian ruler Vladimir Putin launched airstrikes against rebels opposing the terrorist Assad regime in Syria, first with a modest force to gauge the U.S. response and perhaps pull out if threatened. Seeing no threat, Putin has been intensifying Russian operations, even sending in Spetsnaz special forces troops.
China's entry means two major powers are stepping in to do what the U.S. was unwilling to do against IS.
It's a lesson in how fast the tables can turn when America displays weakness — losing wars in both Iraq and Afghanistan, and proving to be ineffective against IS despite fighting it for a year and three months now.
Our commander-in-chief even admits that he has no strategy against the monstrous caliphate that his very own policies of weakness brought into being.
What is apparently happening now was inconceivable before Obama sent America spiraling into decline: our two Cold War adversaries uniting militarily in an effort that will ultimately give them dominance, at our expense, in the most strategically important part of the world, the oil-rich and politically fragile Middle East.
You can't carry out your objectives there over the course of years with the most advanced military in the world? Fine. Watch us do it, Moscow and Beijing are telling us with their actions. And in months, or perhaps only weeks.
How the next president will dig us out of this hole is hard to fathom. A new post-Cold War Brezhnev Doctrine could come into effect, in which Moscow and Beijing warn that they will not let the U.S. reassert its influence in countries they've "liberated" in the Mideast.
In just a week and a half, Moscow has upended the dynamics of power in the Mideast by taking on the role that President Obama relinquished: acting like a superpower in a regional conflict that has implications extending far beyond the region.
Russian ruler Vladimir Putin launched airstrikes against rebels opposing the terrorist Assad regime in Syria, first with a modest force to gauge the U.S. response and perhaps pull out if threatened. Seeing no threat, Putin has been intensifying Russian operations, even sending in Spetsnaz special forces troops.
China's entry means two major powers are stepping in to do what the U.S. was unwilling to do against IS.
It's a lesson in how fast the tables can turn when America displays weakness — losing wars in both Iraq and Afghanistan, and proving to be ineffective against IS despite fighting it for a year and three months now.
Our commander-in-chief even admits that he has no strategy against the monstrous caliphate that his very own policies of weakness brought into being.
What is apparently happening now was inconceivable before Obama sent America spiraling into decline: our two Cold War adversaries uniting militarily in an effort that will ultimately give them dominance, at our expense, in the most strategically important part of the world, the oil-rich and politically fragile Middle East.
You can't carry out your objectives there over the course of years with the most advanced military in the world? Fine. Watch us do it, Moscow and Beijing are telling us with their actions. And in months, or perhaps only weeks.
How the next president will dig us out of this hole is hard to fathom. A new post-Cold War Brezhnev Doctrine could come into effect, in which Moscow and Beijing warn that they will not let the U.S. reassert its influence in countries they've "liberated" in the Mideast.
OddBall1st
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All of this is in haste. you can expect the Pentagon to do nothing about Turkey, it`s in their best interest to stop Russia from building a blue water Naval base in Syria. Because it`s in foreign land, to get a facility that can service Nuclear propulsion, Russia needs a back up Nuclear Nation in case Russia goes bankrupt, major accident or other emergancies that call for back up clean up or takeover. Putin will get that from France and the US will get the finger.
Remember, Turkey did not have that moment of silence at the soccer game for Paris victims,.....France will not forget that, and stick it to Turkey by helping Russia indirectly move the worlds largest NATO base that will be in the poorest location possible if Russia get`s that base in Syria. (near the Canal.)
Remember, Turkey did not have that moment of silence at the soccer game for Paris victims,.....France will not forget that, and stick it to Turkey by helping Russia indirectly move the worlds largest NATO base that will be in the poorest location possible if Russia get`s that base in Syria. (near the Canal.)
OddBall1st
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You will not see the US be the leader in taking out ISIS, not until Assad is out.
You hear that, Listen closely, that`s the sound the Pentagon makes when it`s out played and useless.
You hear that, Listen closely, that`s the sound the Pentagon makes when it`s out played and useless.
OddBall1st
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Remember the Japanese citizens partitioned to get the Blue Water base out of Japan,....That`s the kind of base Putin wants in Syria. When shit cools down from the war, Syria may just get a reactor like Iran`s as a deal maker. Russia with France, can do that.
OddBall1st
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Last years big news at this time was France withholding already paid for and completed warship hulls to be delivered to Russia, until Putin stops fucking with Ukraine.
Keep you eyes on that story to see how France will move it`s pawns.
Keep you eyes on that story to see how France will move it`s pawns.
texasjack
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How much do you guys get paid to spread disinformation? Is it a full time gig or are you all contractors?You think ?? well as we speak looks like a Russia has sent the Cruiser moskva off the coast of guess who ?? and that any target posing a threat will be destroyed oh fuck Eh one thing is you do not fuck with a country ready to stick back and has to answer to know one like NATO turkey is going to be left for there own demise Nato will infact not back em up but hey week is still early lets see what happens by the week end
We warn that every target posing a potential threat will be destroyed,”lieutenant general Sergey Rudskoy said during the briefing.
“All military contacts with Turkey will be suspended,” he added.
Furthermore, as the Russian Ministry of Defense explained, going forward, any Turkish plane that enters Syrian airspace will be fair game.
Putin isn't stupid. Fucking with Ukraine is one thing. Fucking with NATO is a whole different thing. He won't escalate this because he's not suicidal. Any attack on Turkey brings an automatic response from NATO and that is a war Russia will lose.
texasjack
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You should be embarrassed the Russian troll is a better writer than you. Jesus, learn how to write, you're incomprehensible.
2ANONYMOUS
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Russia already has huge Naval base in tartus and what i been reading they also have a typhoon class worlds biggest sub in the waters in and around there these bad boys carry 20 ICBM's and 200 nuclear warheads and with china already having ships moving all over the world Alaska there going to spread out nato all over the world ,, who knows then counter attack and take them out as there weak all alone
No different then a wolf pack separating there kill from the herd
No different then a wolf pack separating there kill from the herd
OddBall1st
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Maybe you`re under achieved and too stupid. Coins have two sides.
OddBall1st
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The only Nation with out an of Country, Nuclear Propulsion capable, Naval base is the USA.
2ANONYMOUS
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you are right putin is not stupid but you need to factor in a few variables russia does own the skies over Syria not NATO all NATO is doing now is he said she said remember canada is pulling out , USA is pulling out whats left as in NATO ???
also on closing note it appears Turkey shot down Russia in Syrian air space must i remind you Russia is a guest in Syria not USA not Turkey
Turkey fucked up and to think NATO will back a country that fucked up i would think again not going to happen NEVER
Its All talk the talk when in fact Nato is concerned lets hope NATO does not make a stupid mistake with Russia considering China is in the picture as well Iran ??
if you look at it only nato country in the Area is turkey which really should never of been ,,
truth is there is to many countries in that area 100 percent against NATO