Gavita's are they really worth the price ??

Thc247

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sorry this may of been asked before but i really cant find anythin usefull i currently run 5 600 w hps in flower i have digital ballasts and the old type my extraction is fine my temps are fine i been thinking about gavitas for some time now i just want to know between a 600 hps and a 1000 gavita does the gavita run hotter than the hps or if so does the 600 gavitas run cooler than hps i like the idea of gavitas but just not sure i dont like the ballasts hanging in the tent if they generate heat
 

adower

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sorry this may of been asked before but i really cant find anythin usefull i currently run 5 600 w hps in flower i have digital ballasts and the old type my extraction is fine my temps are fine i been thinking about gavitas for some time now i just want to know between a 600 hps and a 1000 gavita does the gavita run hotter than the hps or if so does the 600 gavitas run cooler than hps i like the idea of gavitas but just not sure i dont like the ballasts hanging in the tent if they generate heat
Gravitas run super hot on the 1k setting. You need at least 6k btu per 1000 watt to cool them. I would still get the gavita and run it on the 600 setting and see if you can cool it
 

Thc247

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so is the gavitas hotter than the hps or about the same mate wouldnt it be better if i got the 1000 and ran em on 600 heats not a problem at minute its just the hotter it gets the louder my extractors get dont wanna spend that much if they going to make my space louder than it is now
 

Thc247

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im going out to spend today lol wanna get summat that will give me a hard on lol thinkin gavitas but i wud need 5 all together also been looking at a system alien wilma or auto pot cant decide and all the grow shops wanna do is sell me stuff so everything they sell is the best when they dont know fuckall apart from how much it will cost me i cant remember who said they runnin an alien sytem but are the alien systems ok with soil cocoa and clay pebbles cum on guys help me get summat lol
 

justugh

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sorry this may of been asked before but i really cant find anythin usefull i currently run 5 600 w hps in flower i have digital ballasts and the old type my extraction is fine my temps are fine i been thinking about gavitas for some time now i just want to know between a 600 hps and a 1000 gavita does the gavita run hotter than the hps or if so does the 600 gavitas run cooler than hps i like the idea of gavitas but just not sure i dont like the ballasts hanging in the tent if they generate heat
what makes them worth it is the fact they are double ended .....they were one of the first if not the first (first i heard of ) to go double ended

the rest of the market is getting caught up i seen new ballast on the market that do both single and double ended bulbs .........if u get one of those it is just down to hood type
 
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Thc247

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so there are cheaper alternatives with same output i always liked look of the parabolic reflectors but cant use double ended bulbs in them whats the best hood u reckon then ?
 

justugh

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so there are cheaper alternatives with same output i always liked look of the parabolic reflectors but cant use double ended bulbs in them whats the best hood u reckon then ?
well the ballast
http://www.solis-tek.com/digital-ballasts/matrix-1000-digital-ballast.html
that is the make the price u see is what they should sell it for ......u can find better deals just make sure it matches that info

hood
as DE are newis the number of reflectors are limited ........u always want to get a cooltube/air cooled hood
something like this
http://www.greners.com/i/grow-lights/hoods-reflectors/hoods-reflectors/acde-8-double-ended-air-cooled-reflector.html
 

mr sunshine

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sorry this may of been asked before but i really cant find anythin usefull i currently run 5 600 w hps in flower i have digital ballasts and the old type my extraction is fine my temps are fine i been thinking about gavitas for some time now i just want to know between a 600 hps and a 1000 gavita does the gavita run hotter than the hps or if so does the 600 gavitas run cooler than hps i like the idea of gavitas but just not sure i dont like the ballasts hanging in the tent if they generate heat
Go with the nanolux they got more power the ballasts are mounted horizontally so you get more head room. Not to mention they cost less.
 

patrickkawi37

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I ran both side by side. I used the Philips green power bulb in the nanolux . Did better under the gavita and I found the nanolux was warmer , more hot spots . They are both bright but to the naked eye the gavita is quite a bit more bright than the nanolux . Idk the par reads but I wouldnt say it kicks the gavitas ass. The price is good though. Pretty sure you can get a nanolux de setup cheaper then you can a top of the line single ended setup
 
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Aeroknow

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I'm still buying phantom de setups when I need to. I grow in trays. These hoods are perfect for a 4'x6' area:
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i am very happy with these setups. I also have a few of their fixtures that look like gavitas, but I don't like the more square footprint from them(5'x5') Again, I'm totally happy with the one above that I keep buying more and more of them, even though people are saying certain DE setups are "blowing away" other setups.
If nanolux is way better than gavita brand. And gavitas are way better than phantom, well: i would be the best indoor grower on this planet if I was to rock nanolux i guess :-D
What, are we supposed to be getting 4lbs per light now? Jesus lol
 

ttystikk

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sorry this may of been asked before but i really cant find anythin usefull i currently run 5 600 w hps in flower i have digital ballasts and the old type my extraction is fine my temps are fine i been thinking about gavitas for some time now i just want to know between a 600 hps and a 1000 gavita does the gavita run hotter than the hps or if so does the 600 gavitas run cooler than hps i like the idea of gavitas but just not sure i dont like the ballasts hanging in the tent if they generate heat
Don't run any HID lighting under 100%; you'll prematurely age the bulb while getting less lumens per watt and a decade spectrum output.

I think DE lamps and CDM/CMH lights are the only HID lamps worth buying now. In five years everyone who can afford it will be running COB LED, so plan your purchase with that in mind.
 

Thc247

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already seen sumthin mate but 1200 pound per light but it sounds the bollox im not risking 6000 on lights lmao
 

patrickkawi37

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Don't run any HID lighting under 100%; you'll prematurely age the bulb while getting less lumens per watt and a decade spectrum output.

I think DE lamps and CDM/CMH lights are the only HID lamps worth buying now. In five years everyone who can afford it will be running COB LED, so plan your purchase with that in mind.
lol
 

ttystikk

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In 2020, I expect wholesale weed to be selling for under $500 a pound, so cost saving measures will be front and center.

That means lots of mechanized, automated, labor saving and cost saving approaches will radically transform the current paradigm of simply miniaturizing outdoor farming techniques for use indoors.

Commercial growers will embrace COB LED because it will be cheaper, better and more efficient. How do I know this? Because it already IS cheaper, better and more efficient... and it's only getting more so.

So how's your 2020 vision coming along?
 

patrickkawi37

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In 2020, I expect wholesale weed to be selling for under $500 a pound, so cost saving measures will be front and center.

That means lots of mechanized, automated, labor saving and cost saving approaches will radically transform the current paradigm of simply miniaturizing outdoor farming techniques for use indoors.

Commercial growers will embrace COB LED because it will be cheaper, better and more efficient. How do I know this? Because it already IS cheaper, better and more efficient... and it's only getting more so.

So how's your 2020 vision coming along?
I agree that you will be able to get pounds for 500 bucks in 5 years ... But you won't be getting my weed for that. I don't grow garbage . It would be impossible to turn a profit at that price. So this is where you say yes but if you growing with leds your run cost is lower.. So what your saying is people are going to drop 100k+ for lighting setups ... Where they are going to profit a couple thousand dollars a batch... And it's going to take them 20 years to get there investment back. What you are saying makes sense to you.. But it's not reality . You cannot compare a successful small tent grow and think that it's going to be as successful on a large scale. Growers are getting upwards of 5 pounds per thousand watt lamp. I got 3.25 per light my last run and I am a noob...

Electricity costs are not strictly lighting ..the bigger the room, more fans more dehus more everything your going to need.. Lights are not where the power is being used.. So saving a little on light and compromising your yield..... Per fixture and sqft.. Is a god damn joke. And I know I can argue this til I'm blue in the face with you. But your not a commercial grower .. And if you ever are.. Your opinion on this is going to change.. Or it will be the beginning of one hell of a failure for you. Find me a fixture that you can pull over 3 pounds from 1 fixture.. Out of a 5x5 space . Hps is the ONLY way to go. And double ended is dope and all... But I'm doing just as good under my single ended fixtures . If you don't have 10 foot + roof space I think gavitas do more harm than good .
 
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