No he hasn't. 225k people have died in the conflict but I am willing to say more were killed by the islamic rebels than by Assad.Assad has killed over 225,000 of his own people, thousands of refugees have fled, the economy is in shambles and Putin supports him. Obama has no strategy and how many generals have left during his tenure? nuff said.....
Yeah, the U.S. is really well respected since Obama took office.
Putin moves in, tells Obama to get the hell outta the way, bombs questionable targets in Syria.
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ricky1lung
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Lol depends on who you listen to when they do similar things,
Could just be excused away as collateral damage in some circles.
Please pardon my sarcasm and cynicism
Harrekin
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Obama also blamed Assad for using chemical weapons in Syria...
Since then the "rebels" have carried out two more of their own.
pnwmystery
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"Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake." - Napoleon Bonaparte
The US can take a step back, Putin can involve himself in a Civil War in the Middle East and prop up a Shia nation against the majority Sunnis, including fighters from Central Asia and the Caucus (his own home turf). He'll fight ISIS on the ground for us, and all the while he'll have to draw down the conflict in Eastern Ukraine, and the fighters from the DNR might crumble without those Russian "volunteers" (kontraktnikis).
The US can take a step back, Putin can involve himself in a Civil War in the Middle East and prop up a Shia nation against the majority Sunnis, including fighters from Central Asia and the Caucus (his own home turf). He'll fight ISIS on the ground for us, and all the while he'll have to draw down the conflict in Eastern Ukraine, and the fighters from the DNR might crumble without those Russian "volunteers" (kontraktnikis).
pnwmystery
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The Ukraine passed a law making it so that official business would be done in Ukrainian, because that's the official language of the country. That was it. Seriously, your arguments are so weak and overturned, but you can keep parroting the Putinist shill lines, I'll keep telling you how wrong you are.
The UN also was very quick to recognize that Yanukovych fled the country, abandoning his post as President, and thus abdicating his powers as President of the Ukraine. So when the Russian Ambassador to the UN magically appears with a post dated letter in front of the UN security council saying Yanukovych is asking for Russian military intervention in Ukraine? Russia can't do shit, because Yanukovych is not the legitimate head of Ukraine, thus he has no power to request any form of military aid of any sort in a country that he has no legitimate power in. Yanukovych asked for Russian military help. And the Parliamentary vote that overturned him? Fucking legal under Ukrainian domestic law. And the new government? All recognized by the UN and the EU as well NATO, OSCE, OECD, and every other multi national organization except for Russia. Why? Because the government wasn't so opposed to the people and so pro Russian.
What the UN did not recognize was the Russian imposed "independence referendum" in Crimea at gun point. Look up United Nations General Assembly Resolution 68/262.
Even in Donetsk and Luhanks less than a third of people actually want to form a union with Russia, while 2/3 of the people want territorial integrity with Ukraine, but the "People's Republic of Donbass and Luhanks" is continuing to fight a war against the Ukrainian Armed Forces.
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see4
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You sir, are on the short list of individuals who are intelligent enough to pick up on much of my "gibberish".
ChesusRice
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Israel and Russia well become allies
OGEvilgenius
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Says the guy who thinks it's no big deal they are fascists.
Abdicated? LOL. You're an idiot. Unfortunately idiots like you make awful policy possible.
pnwmystery
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Once again, you prove yourself to be the idiot. Address the entire message, like how the UN and pretty much every other nation recognizes the current government of the Ukraine, and also how international legal scholars have pretty much said the same thing I have.
Oh wait, you can't really address it. All you can say is "But, but, but Russia Today said Yanukovych is the legitimate head of Ukraine.
and the Russian government said the current Ukrainian government is illegitimate . And and and Putin said that it was unconstitutional. "
OGEvilgenius
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Yeah and all the countries that voted yes have US gun barrels to their heads, but ok. It hardly makes up for the innumerable illegal actions your government has taken (In both US and International law).Once again, you prove yourself to be the idiot. Address the entire message, like how the UN and pretty much every other nation recognizes the current government of the Ukraine, and also how international legal scholars have pretty much said the same thing I have.
Oh wait, you can't really address it. All you can say is "But, but, but Russia Today said Yanukovych is the legitimate head of Ukraine.
pnwmystery
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Like France? UK? China? The EU? “On the issue of Ukraine, China has adopted an objective and just position. We respect Ukraine’s independence, sovereignty and territorial integrity,” Li [Keqiang, the Chinese Premier] told a news conference at the end of the annual meeting of parliament, adding that he had recently told this to Ukraine’s president.
That was in response to Crimea.
Harrekin
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Fuck China...
Harrekin
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Not even American.
You're Australian tho, right?
This is the thread for you:
https://www.rollitup.org/t/australia-exports-pedophiles.706733/
Im kinda surprised about how much you care for the Syrians. You should raise a militia and go fight for them..Assad has killed over 225,000 of his own people, thousands of refugees have fled, the economy is in shambles and Putin supports him. Obama has no strategy and how many generals have left during his tenure? nuff said.....
Yeah, the U.S. is really well respected since Obama took office.
Harrekin
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He just hates Russia cos he's old and ignorant.
Uncle Ben
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go for it
I don't care for the Syrians like you. Plus I did plenty fighting in the middle east, big waste of time and resources imo.