Florida....Home of the fucked....learn from my mistake

herballuvmonkey

Well-Known Member
So here we go. Had been growing for a long time and just got busted. To make a long story short, got ratted out by a roommate after I discovered child porn on her cell phone. When I questioned her about it she says it was her boyfriends and I tell her we have to turn it in. She says since she knew about it that she would be implicated. She had a child and didn't want to lose her kid over it. Like a dumbass, I feel sorry and I say ok I only had 35 more days til harvest so after that I will break everything down and she needed to make some calls and get out of the state cause I was turning it in. Well apparently she had a lot more to do wit it then being a victim. She figures that the guy was going to rat her out for being an accomplice. She tells the boyfriend and they concoct a plan to get me busted first and figure that since the cell phone was no longer on the premises that I would not have a leg to stand on. A few days later after our talk, I tell my wife I noticed a helicopter hovering over our place (about 3 days later). But because my lights (2 400 watt hps) are on 12/12 with one more 400 MH off during the hours I saw the helicopter I wasn't sure it was for us. I didn't see any police insignia on it either. My wife and I talk and figure we don't want to lose the money from this harvest (about 3 grand) because we were moving anyway and we were probably paranoid. So everyday from then I am doing sweeps of my neighborhood and coming home from different directions for counter surveillance.
Keep in mind the room is upstairs in my home behind a locked door and a false wall. Sept. 21st the police come banging on my door with a search warrant at 5:30 am. They come in and secure me in handcuffs but leave my old lady and her free. After securing me they went straight to the room. No one else has seen it, you couldn't even tell there was a room without knowing because of the wall. They take her outside and leave me on the couch with my wife. Once they come downstairs with all my equipment they ask whose it is I tell them that it is mine and my wife and the girl had no knowledge. My wife concurs because one of us has to be out to get the other out. The have me sitting on the couch for 8 hours then the svu comes in to interview me. I had the phone hidden in my closet and the roomie didn't know she thought I had gotten rid of it and saved the pics on my computer to turn in. They question me and I told them it was her phone and the pics and text messages were from her and her boyfriend. They set him up to admit it which clears me of the child porn charges (thank god) but I caught a manufacture of cannabis,possession with intent, child neglect because my daughter was in the house and possession of paraphernalia So now we are going through it with child welfare. Luckily I don't have a record, a 45k yr job, no cash or guns laying around. DCF has been really good to us because we aren't neglectful or big time criminals. My only hope is to get my discovery and hope they didn't have enough or have procedural errors in the obtaining the search warrant. Of course you will say why did you have a roommate. My wife had her come to stay while I was gone for a couple of weeks on business. Why did she know about the room. Again my woman brought her in because we had known her for over a year and she has gotten comfortable and lax in security and I didn't want to put her out on the streets after I got home, but needless to say I was pissed. Moral of the story for you noobs...Rule #1: The first rule about fight club? THERE IS NO FIGHT CLUB!!!never ever ever ever ever tell anyone. When I came home and found out that she knew I was going to break it down, but I had finally got some jock horror going and I didn't want to lose it, so I overrode my gut. The day before they came I had a weird feeling and was going to break it down then also, but again overrode the decision because I though i was just noided. After all I've been going since the 90's never a prob because we always followed protocol. Rule number 2: If you feel paranoid and it's eating at you...break it down. Live to fight again another day. Don't get caught up in the cash or losing the things you can regain if your not in jail. I'm probably going to get probation so that will be at least 2 years of no smoking or growing. Rule number 3: No matter how much you think you know about that person, ...you never really know someone or what they will do. Jails are full of people who can't believe that so in so would have turned them in. Rule number 4: You can't put a price on freedom. I don't care what it costs to keep you and yours secure...PAY IT!!! technology today allows you to keep yourself safe as humanly possible. Use materials to deter infrared. Vent into you attic only never outside, employ air scrubber(s) and low heat signature lights like LEDs. If you are in it for cash learn how to start an inexpensive corporation so you can show where your money comes from, pay your taxes (Your uncle has to get his cut). If your selling every load you pull in take 30% and put it aside in legal fees. Nothing is worse than sitting in jail and thinking about all the money you made and you don't have enough to post bond or get a lawyer. IF possible do your business away from your residence and don't keep anything there that is not personal consumption(i.e scales, baggies et all) Rule number 5: After you have been in the game for awhile you will start to get comfortable....DON'T!!!, I never had anyone around me busted for sales or grow since 93 (that's almost 20 years!). I've have been doing this from Oregon to Florida. Don't ever relax because Johnny Law doesn't take breaks and it only takes one time for him to destroy your world. Just because your stash is personal or a small op that is part personal and you make some cash off of it don't think they won't throw you in there with the guy that's selling $300,000/month in heroin (true story while I was in jail waiting for bail one of the guys in the pod was accused of exactly that.). They are there to get you and if you think that it's just weed it's not a big deal you're stupid. I had 4 plants one was a mom 3 were in bud. They made that police report sound like I had mass pot already ready for sale (none was ready and only 2 grams was in the house that was processed) used the total weight of the plants, which 3 were in a scrog in their 4th week of flower so you can imagine how big they were, and a bag full of dead plant clippings(which I was planning to throw in a dumpster at my job like usual) which they added into the total weight (another 908 grams). Make your rules and stick to them. Don't lax because this person is cool or anything. And for those of you who listen to rap music...Listen to the 10 crack commandments by Notorious B.I.G. Every time he says crack substitute weed and live by that code......We will be fine, my daughter is with my aunt and I have a good feeling everything will be ok but im just saying....BE SAFE GUYS AND GALS. I never thought it would happen to me. PS For those who want to see the child molesting bitch and her douch bag boyfriend. Go to the Orlando Sentinel and search up the paper for the 24th of september. It should be under man and woman molest baby.
 

redivider

Well-Known Member
why the fuck would you share a home with somebody who deals with child porn?

by copying the pictures you committed a crime thank the lord you weren't prosecuted.

you tell somebody your turning them into the police for a crime that will land them in jail for a good time + have them labeled a sex offender for life, and you think there wouldn't be retaliation? i don't know man... completely avoidable I think...
 

pmumbry

Active Member
i for one am happy to hear you got busted. You allowed 2 child predators to remain free and active just so you could pad your $45k per year salary with a measly $3k. on top of that you have one of them living with you in contact with your own child. fuck you op.
 

herballuvmonkey

Well-Known Member
The problem you don't see is that we didn't know she was doing that. Child welfare would have taken our children no matter what because she committed one of the acts in her room (something we also didn't find out until she was arrested). So whether I broke it down or not we were fucked in that respect. Any of you can say what you want but until you get put in that situation you have no idea what you would do. The lies that are told to you that you believe because you can't believe what someone would do to their own child is incredible. Regardless, of what some of you self righteous posters think the moral is to follow your protocols and make sure you don't fall into traps. We will be o.k. because the police case has issues with the search warrant so most of my case will probably be suppressed and I will plead out to the misdemeanor paraphernalia charge so I don't need your sympathy. But again, for those of you who actually see this for what it is keep yourselves safe there may be wolves hanging out among your sheep.
 

herballuvmonkey

Well-Known Member
why the fuck would you share a home with somebody who deals with child porn?

by copying the pictures you committed a crime thank the lord you weren't prosecuted.

you tell somebody your turning them into the police for a crime that will land them in jail for a good time + have them labeled a sex offender for life, and you think there wouldn't be retaliation? i don't know man... completely avoidable I think...
I think maybe you need to re-read my post. Pretty much what you just said is completely wrong. Where did i copy pictures? where did i tell her we were turning her in(it was the exboyfriend). I always find it funny how people jump to conclusions and really don't read
 

billybob420

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That blows man, but it sounds like everyone would had worked out if you went to the cops about it immediately. That to me, is the moral of the story anyways.
 

herballuvmonkey

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so true and now i'm at another crossroads. It seems that if I get the search warrant tossed then the molesters will go free also, as they would be able to mitigate on the grounds of illegal search and seizure. How fucked up is that. So I already made the decision to bargain my charge down as much as possible so that they will get prosecuted. Depends on if the PA will accept my deal. I dont want them to be let free just to save me, that would be so fucked up on every letter you know.
 
thats a botched deal bro... if i was you, i would have not said anything about turning in anyone until you harvested and broke down your op and cashed in AND THEN turn those sicko pedos in to the police so when they tried to get you caught up, they aint got shit on you. i guess you live and learn, but you gotta be punching your self in the head if your a long time grower and you know the rules of the game and you STILL broke them.... just saying.
 

pmumbry

Active Member
oh and by the way pmumbry that 3000.00 multiply that by 20 harvests per year.....retard.
right, so 3k per harvest right? and you had 1 harvest almost ready, right? so you stood to make 3k off this 1 harvest. you could have aborted this 1 harvest and lost a measly 3k$ and turned in those child predators and then went back to growing later and finished up your year with 19 successful harvests instead of 20. who knows how many times the kids they were molesting got raped in the amount of time it would have taken you to finish out your harvest? 3k$ isnt shit to a person who pulls in 45k$ a year.
 

born2killspam

Well-Known Member
so true and now i'm at another crossroads. It seems that if I get the search warrant tossed then the molesters will go free also, as they would be able to mitigate on the grounds of illegal search and seizure. How fucked up is that. So I already made the decision to bargain my charge down as much as possible so that they will get prosecuted. Depends on if the PA will accept my deal. I dont want them to be let free just to save me, that would be so fucked up on every letter you know.
Make it a political media thing if you can.. The worst thing cops can be accused of doing is not agressivly going after child predators..
 

herballuvmonkey

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wow, it's been a long time since this post. Here is an update, I endesup spending 15k, 10k on my lawyer, 5k to the state in fines and probation. Ended with 3 years probation. Because I didn't try to get the search warrant tossed the two molesters got 5 and 3 life sentences for capital child molestation. I am finally coming out of probation and already have all my shit back that they destroyed. Will be starting with jock horror again. Will post pics as the op moves along.
 

GrowUrOwnDank

Well-Known Member
So here we go. Had been growing for a long time and just got busted. To make a long story short, got ratted out by a roommate after I discovered child porn on her cell phone. When I questioned her about it she says it was her boyfriends and I tell her we have to turn it in. She says since she knew about it that she would be implicated. She had a child and didn't want to lose her kid over it. Like a dumbass, I feel sorry and I say ok I only had 35 more days til harvest so after that I will break everything down and she needed to make some calls and get out of the state cause I was turning it in. Well apparently she had a lot more to do wit it then being a victim. She figures that the guy was going to rat her out for being an accomplice. She tells the boyfriend and they concoct a plan to get me busted first and figure that since the cell phone was no longer on the premises that I would not have a leg to stand on. A few days later after our talk, I tell my wife I noticed a helicopter hovering over our place (about 3 days later). But because my lights (2 400 watt hps) are on 12/12 with one more 400 MH off during the hours I saw the helicopter I wasn't sure it was for us. I didn't see any police insignia on it either. My wife and I talk and figure we don't want to lose the money from this harvest (about 3 grand) because we were moving anyway and we were probably paranoid. So everyday from then I am doing sweeps of my neighborhood and coming home from different directions for counter surveillance.
Keep in mind the room is upstairs in my home behind a locked door and a false wall. Sept. 21st the police come banging on my door with a search warrant at 5:30 am. They come in and secure me in handcuffs but leave my old lady and her free. After securing me they went straight to the room. No one else has seen it, you couldn't even tell there was a room without knowing because of the wall. They take her outside and leave me on the couch with my wife. Once they come downstairs with all my equipment they ask whose it is I tell them that it is mine and my wife and the girl had no knowledge. My wife concurs because one of us has to be out to get the other out. The have me sitting on the couch for 8 hours then the svu comes in to interview me. I had the phone hidden in my closet and the roomie didn't know she thought I had gotten rid of it and saved the pics on my computer to turn in. They question me and I told them it was her phone and the pics and text messages were from her and her boyfriend. They set him up to admit it which clears me of the child porn charges (thank god) but I caught a manufacture of cannabis,possession with intent, child neglect because my daughter was in the house and possession of paraphernalia So now we are going through it with child welfare. Luckily I don't have a record, a 45k yr job, no cash or guns laying around. DCF has been really good to us because we aren't neglectful or big time criminals. My only hope is to get my discovery and hope they didn't have enough or have procedural errors in the obtaining the search warrant. Of course you will say why did you have a roommate. My wife had her come to stay while I was gone for a couple of weeks on business. Why did she know about the room. Again my woman brought her in because we had known her for over a year and she has gotten comfortable and lax in security and I didn't want to put her out on the streets after I got home, but needless to say I was pissed. Moral of the story for you noobs...Rule #1: The first rule about fight club? THERE IS NO FIGHT CLUB!!!never ever ever ever ever tell anyone. When I came home and found out that she knew I was going to break it down, but I had finally got some jock horror going and I didn't want to lose it, so I overrode my gut. The day before they came I had a weird feeling and was going to break it down then also, but again overrode the decision because I though i was just noided. After all I've been going since the 90's never a prob because we always followed protocol. Rule number 2: If you feel paranoid and it's eating at you...break it down. Live to fight again another day. Don't get caught up in the cash or losing the things you can regain if your not in jail. I'm probably going to get probation so that will be at least 2 years of no smoking or growing. Rule number 3: No matter how much you think you know about that person, ...you never really know someone or what they will do. Jails are full of people who can't believe that so in so would have turned them in. Rule number 4: You can't put a price on freedom. I don't care what it costs to keep you and yours secure...PAY IT!!! technology today allows you to keep yourself safe as humanly possible. Use materials to deter infrared. Vent into you attic only never outside, employ air scrubber(s) and low heat signature lights like LEDs. If you are in it for cash learn how to start an inexpensive corporation so you can show where your money comes from, pay your taxes (Your uncle has to get his cut). If your selling every load you pull in take 30% and put it aside in legal fees. Nothing is worse than sitting in jail and thinking about all the money you made and you don't have enough to post bond or get a lawyer. IF possible do your business away from your residence and don't keep anything there that is not personal consumption(i.e scales, baggies et all) Rule number 5: After you have been in the game for awhile you will start to get comfortable....DON'T!!!, I never had anyone around me busted for sales or grow since 93 (that's almost 20 years!). I've have been doing this from Oregon to Florida. Don't ever relax because Johnny Law doesn't take breaks and it only takes one time for him to destroy your world. Just because your stash is personal or a small op that is part personal and you make some cash off of it don't think they won't throw you in there with the guy that's selling $300,000/month in heroin (true story while I was in jail waiting for bail one of the guys in the pod was accused of exactly that.). They are there to get you and if you think that it's just weed it's not a big deal you're stupid. I had 4 plants one was a mom 3 were in bud. They made that police report sound like I had mass pot already ready for sale (none was ready and only 2 grams was in the house that was processed) used the total weight of the plants, which 3 were in a scrog in their 4th week of flower so you can imagine how big they were, and a bag full of dead plant clippings(which I was planning to throw in a dumpster at my job like usual) which they added into the total weight (another 908 grams). Make your rules and stick to them. Don't lax because this person is cool or anything. And for those of you who listen to rap music...Listen to the 10 crack commandments by Notorious B.I.G. Every time he says crack substitute weed and live by that code......We will be fine, my daughter is with my aunt and I have a good feeling everything will be ok but im just saying....BE SAFE GUYS AND GALS. I never thought it would happen to me. PS For those who want to see the child molesting bitch and her douch bag boyfriend. Go to the Orlando Sentinel and search up the paper for the 24th of september. It should be under man and woman molest baby.
That's a powerful story. Glad it got bumped.
 

GrowUrOwnDank

Well-Known Member
Theoretically,I haven't done this. But start like 2 plants a week. Go perpetual. A long time ago was a dude here who started like 8 plants from clones every two weeks. Went straight 12/12 with an 8 week harvest. I think he had more light tho. Been a while.
 

qp2

New Member
For those who want to see the child molesting bitch and her douch bag boyfriend. Go to the Orlando Sentinel and search up the paper for the 24th of september.
oh and by the way pmumbry that 3000.00 multiply that by 20 harvests per year.....retard.
Some might consider pointing people towards your exact case on a public internet forum and then bragging about having 20 harvests a year to be retarded, but that's none of my business.
 
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