Nutrient Lock Out?? Help Please!

Damon Elder

Damon Elder

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Indacouch said:
I've tried lots of different methods for pests my favorites are neem concentrate and azamax I alternate between the two even before I have a problem and it prevents them My suggestion would be to invest in some neem oil it's cheap and the first thing I reach for at the first sight of mites I use it at 4ml of neem concentrate with a drop of soap in warm water 30oz spray bottle. Azamax is pricey but I use it 5ml 30 oz spray bottle That works for me hope this helps
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Alright thanks :weed:
 
daloudpack

daloudpack

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haaa nevermind i already got some in this shit i got called fungicide 3 ..its a fungicide , insecticide , miticide... controls black spot , rust, powdery mildew ...controls aphids , white flies, and other listed insect pests, controls spidermites, for use on roses flowers , houseplants, ornamentals ,fruits and veggies.... i wonder how it will do on weed///
 
Alienwidow

Alienwidow

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daloudpack said:
correct me if im wrong but calcium deficiency leaves dark spots and doesnt eat holes in the leaves
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I see one teeny hole in A leaf. The other stuff to me looks like calcium def in early stages. I dont have a dip stick for it so i ain't positive. Just a guess.

To the op...you useing calcium in anything?
 
Damon Elder

Damon Elder

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Alienwidow said:
I see one teeny hole in A leaf. The other stuff to me looks like calcium def in early stages. I dont have a dip stick for it so i ain't positive. Just a guess.

To the op...you useing calcium in anything?
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No I haven't used any cal/mag yet but I have heard people saying about week three of veg they usually start showing signs of cal deficiency if you have not used any and I have thought it could be cal deficiency a few times
 
Steven85

Steven85

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It looks to me like you have some sort of deficiency aswell as maybe a small bug problem, i could be wrong but certainly looks that way, also you can use nutes from day 1 you dont really have to wait that 2 weeks of using normal ph'd water but test your water run off ph this will give you a better idea, the issues arrise from nutrient lockout being a ph problem, you state you use a ph of 6.5 i always go lower than that usually around 5.8 as is guided by 'canna' and my nutrients have never locked out once and that is from feeding from day 1, i can only give information from my own grow and what i know to be true for me but my suggestion is give them a flush for maybe 2 days and use nutes as normal after this time with a water ph of between 5.6 and 6.0 and see what happens you should see a big difference

Steve
 
Alienwidow

Alienwidow

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Steven85 said:
Also how often are you feeding these?
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Still no feed. Soil. 30% pearlite. (Which means 70% of a viable nutrient source) ph?...........slightly important even in the soil mix because its so high in not soil. I always say, NPK are considered macro nutrients, but calmag, sould also be considered a macro nutrient..(even though its two, fuck you haters) calcium and magnesium are vital to supporting that plant when working with un-ammended soil.
So, i think its time to start feeding. Running a base nute and a calmag *liquid, supplement should cure the problem. Id start with a good dose of calmag, say...200 ppm, and a base nute addition of 250 on top of that. Two feeds like this and you should he able to cut calcmag back to 100 ppm EVERY water/feed until two weeks before you chop. Now as far as NPK goes id probably run 250 now and as the plant grows feed it more. A six foot plant under a 1k light needs about 900-1100 ppm feed. When feeding. Buuut since your in soil you wont have to feed as often. Id go F-w-F-w-F-F-w-F-w in flower. Before flower starts take it easy and toss a couple more waters in there. But add a little calmag.
Id bet after the first couple calmag bumped up shots, your back on track and they double in size.
 
Damon Elder

Damon Elder

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Steven85 said:
It looks to me like you have some sort of deficiency aswell as maybe a small bug problem, i could be wrong but certainly looks that way, also you can use nutes from day 1 you dont really have to wait that 2 weeks of using normal ph'd water but test your water run off ph this will give you a better idea, the issues arrise from nutrient lockout being a ph problem, you state you use a ph of 6.5 i always go lower than that usually around 5.8 as is guided by 'canna' and my nutrients have never locked out once and that is from feeding from day 1, i can only give information from my own grow and what i know to be true for me but my suggestion is give them a flush for maybe 2 days and use nutes as normal after this time with a water ph of between 5.6 and 6.0 and see what happens you should see a big difference

Steve
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I have only been giving them water the past week ph at 6.2 and the purpling of the leaves have lifted alittle when I looked at them today. As for yellow spots still the same spots are still there and they are still the same size and there arnt any new spots either but I have sprayed under the leaves a few times with plain water sense it was early stage of what looked like it could be bugs. So hopefully it helped some but I do plan on getting some nem oil just in case as well as calmag. But to answer you on how often I feed them, I give them ONLY WATER when they need it or the soil is dry but still alittle moist towards the bottom of the pot
 
DANK PURPY

DANK PURPY

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Damon Elder said:
There is some dolomite so yea I might have to get a soil tester. And the reason I asked about gnats is because I have seen one or two around this third week of growing so getting ride of those things would probably help with the yellow spots or holes at least?
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get some neem oil from you grow store. dyna-gro makes a good one. or get a cheap one like me still works good. took care of all my soil-bug problems. its the bees knees
 
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