Does anyone see truth?

GrowUrOwnDank

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We all have eyes that see, can you see what I am a about to try and show you. Yes it is completely subjective and metaphysical but I am sure you can see it too.

Always be Aware of Space

Time is an illusion but the Earth is very Real

All things come and go but the Light remains Eternal

If you understand this then you are now in Paradise

Welcome to the kingdom of heaven, welcome to eternity. The universe is absolutely perfect. Stop resisting what is and surrender to your fate, accept what is, it is Paradise after all, it can not possibly get any better than this. Come and dine with me in Paradise. Any questions and opinions are welcome.
So. I have a question. Are you real? What is "your" truth and why do you own it? Does it give you the confidence you may need to survive another day? Why are you motivated to focus on mystery? Are you clever? I don't know what's real. Should I be in a hurry to find this promised land? If so? Why do wevwaste even a second here? Could this BE our promised land?
 

New Age United

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So. I have a question. Are you real? What is "your" truth and why do you own it? Does it give you the confidence you may need to survive another day? Why are you motivated to focus on mystery? Are you clever? I don't know what's real. Should I be in a hurry to find this promised land? If so? Why do wevwaste even a second here? Could this BE our promised land?
You have many questions.

Yes I am real.A Zen master said to a philosopher who asked what is real? He said you are real, now all you have to do is realize it.

It is not my truth it is simply the truth; the earth is paradise and you are suffering bc you do not see this. "You gave them eyes but they do not see" Virgil

Life is completely effortless, of that I am confident. I do not need to survive another day if I died right now I would feel fulfilled.

It's no mystery and no I am not clever for discovering the truth, it was revealed to me by a very wise man. All you have to do is open your eyes and see.

Yes this is the promised land, no not the land promised to the Jews but the kingdom of heaven, think about it, it can not possibly get any better than this. This is literally eternity I am asking you to simply open up your eyes and see.

I promise you peace

I promise you bliss

I promise you love

I promise you eternal life
 

georgio838

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You have many questions.

Yes I am real.A Zen master said to a philosopher who asked what is real? He said you are real, now all you have to do is realize it.

It is not my truth it is simply the truth; the earth is paradise and you are suffering bc you do not see this. "You gave them eyes but they do not see" Virgil

Life is completely effortless, of that I am confident. I do not need to survive another day if I died right now I would feel fulfilled.

It's no mystery and no I am not clever for discovering the truth, it was revealed to me by a very wise man. All you have to do is open your eyes and see.

Yes this is the promised land, no not the land promised to the Jews but the kingdom of heaven, think about it, it can not possibly get any better than this. This is literally eternity I am asking you to simply open up your eyes and see.

I promise you peace

I promise you bliss

I promise you love

I promise you eternal life
may i ask sir..how many buckets of lsd have you consumed so far this year pls?
 

georgio838

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ill take that as an affirmative...possibly 3 buckets?...bless you on your magic carpet ride sir & hope it doesnt get too bumpy on your journey
 

New Age United

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may i ask sir..how many buckets of lsd have you consumed so far this year pls?
I haven't done lsd in nearly 10 years, though i am doing mushrooms every now and then. No this revelation did not come from psychedelics it has come from force. An organism gets to the point where it needs to evolve or die, as a matter of survival, I had to transcend my mind as a matter of survival. Let me ask you a question, can you stop thinking, have you found the off button for your mind?
 

georgio838

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I haven't done lsd in nearly 10 years, though i am doing mushrooms every now and then. No this revelation did not come from psychedelics it has come from force. An organism gets to the point where it needs to evolve or die, as a matter of survival, I had to transcend my mind as a matter of survival. Let me ask you a question, can you stop thinking, have you found the off button for your mind?
cmon you really are asking a big one now, i been married 3yrs & still cant find my wifes clit half the time...why is it hidden so well?...now thats a real mystery?
 

GrowUrOwnDank

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Ok bro. I got high. It's dark here. Very dark and quiet. Peaceful like the world around me is asleep. No sound of traffic back here. No lights accept the stupid little LEDs they put on everything these days. And my phone. I had a full day of light and enjoyed it. Mostly. Now is my favorite time. I'm gonna close the bedroom door. Shade me from even more photons seeping through. I love the Suns radiation. I love the glow of the moon. You can actually see stars in the sky where I live. I wonder about the majesty of it all. Why many don't even notice the bird in a tree. A flower on a dandelion. Our purpose has been subdued so we become blind. We tromp thru our existence structured. Trained. Robotic. Unaware. Yet. We all exist. Serve. Aware only of that which is inside ones on thoughts. Selfish, surviving. meditating. Medicating with abundance. Struggling to completion. Is any of this real? Time is fleeting. And then. The moments gone. Can you capture it? In a memory or pic? You can talk about it. Should I believe it was real? Why? Who cares. Look forward for this moment to pass. And be hopeful the next is more pleasurable embrace the gluttony of it all. Forever is merely now. I'm kinda high. Not over the top tho.
 

GrowUrOwnDank

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I haven't done lsd in nearly 10 years, though i am doing mushrooms every now and then. No this revelation did not come from psychedelics it has come from force. An organism gets to the point where it needs to evolve or die, as a matter of survival, I had to transcend my mind as a matter of survival. Let me ask you a question, can you stop thinking, have you found the off button for your mind?
Been about 20 for me. It was a hard rude up and then I always crashed hard too. Like insane, but I loved it the most of everything in pretty sure it would give me heart attack if I ever do it again. So.
 

green_machine_two9er

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You have many questions.

Yes I am real.A Zen master said to a philosopher who asked what is real? He said you are real, now all you have to do is realize it.

It is not my truth it is simply the truth; the earth is paradise and you are suffering bc you do not see this. "You gave them eyes but they do not see" Virgil

Life is completely effortless, of that I am confident. I do not need to survive another day if I died right now I would feel fulfilled.

It's no mystery and no I am not clever for discovering the truth, it was revealed to me by a very wise man. All you have to do is open your eyes and see.

Yes this is the promised land, no not the land promised to the Jews but the kingdom of heaven, think about it, it can not possibly get any better than this. This is literally eternity I am asking you to simply open up your eyes and see.

I promise you peace

I promise you bliss

I promise you love

I promise you eternal life
I don't agree you with. The earth is our eternal paradise?? Are you saying this is it! All right here and now? I will never be able to accept that only because I've experienced astral planes of existence. Seen through eyes which were no part of this physical body. Emotions beyond what we can comprehend in our human form. So no. This is not home. Not paradise. But a stepping stones on our journeys back to our true home.
 

New Age United

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Not needing anything. Just pointing out
I don't agree you with. The earth is our eternal paradise?? Are you saying this is it! All right here and now? I will never be able to accept that only because I've experienced astral planes of existence. Seen through eyes which were no part of this physical body. Emotions beyond what we can comprehend in our human form. So no. This is not home. Not paradise. But a stepping stones on our journeys back to our true home.
I respect your opinion but honestly I disagree. Death is the loss of consciousness, it is just like sleep. You will not find any place that feels more like home than this. Can you still sense the astral plane of existence that you speak of or is it just a memory? And if it is just a memory does it have any real existence in the now? Can you explain to me why you feel that what you were experiencing was real?
 

green_machine_two9er

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I respect your opinion but honestly I disagree. Death is the loss of consciousness, it is just like sleep. You will not find any place that feels more like home than this. Can you still sense the astral plane of existence that you speak of or is it just a memory? And if it is just a memory does it have any real existence in the now? Can you explain to me why you feel that what you were experiencing was real?
There's no feeling. It just is. Almost all people who har been pronounced clinically dead but resesitatrd experience some sort of nonphysical perception. There are many books and documentaries on the subject. And I think we can agree that if the experiencer has seen or experienced a Astral or causal plane. And knows that the "i am" of the self still exsists in a non-physical realm than of course conscienceness goes on. But perhaps this experience of being without a physical body is so unnatural to how we are wired from birth to think that it takes more than faith. And logic will always fail to explain because it is unexplainable. Logic tells us yes, here we are, this is it. Get it while the gettin is good. This takes awayresponsibility. Our souls are timeless. Not eternal because eternity is defined as all time. But timeless. As in exsists before during and after time was set on forward trajectory. This is strange to think bout but here's a good question that deserves thought. Time is only relative to space. Outside of space, and all the laws of the natural universe, the progression does not exsists. Near a black hole time is sped up. Gravity Is intertwined with the illusion of time. Just as gravity is an illusion of the physical arena itself.
But If paradigms are shattered by a mystical, transcendent or non local perceptions than you can't go back.


Ok so I'll answer your questions now.
First. You stated. Death is loss of consciences, just like sleep. That almost proves my point. Of course we lose the ability to consciencly Perceive this world. Bit as in death just as sleep there are experiences and events which are non local. Dreams. Wow. What a profound thing. To be an experiencer in a strange and limitless world of the dream planes. And anyone who lucid dreams will attest to knowing who they are, that they are in fact sleeping but stillexperiencing. being born into human form is basically the same. We are dreaming. Lost. And only once one realizes this fact can they be liberated from birth death pain and suffering.

How can I be sure I wasn't imagining. Ok you got me. I can't prove to anyone that I was anywhere other than here. All I can do is tell you about it. Perhaps spark an interest in visiting yourself. But you and all soils have been there. Each time when our soil exits this stage and is bathed in pure bliss and extacy you will remember. And also know as to why we must forget our true home in order to have a human experience. Every aspect of our journey will be laid out before us an each second will have had a purpose. Each person we meet, every twist and turn out lives take, will be like a orchestras of unimaginal design and detail. All leading (hopefully) to a point of god realization. Or the realization that we are all god conscienceness In human form. Lost just trying to get back home.
 

New Age United

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There's no feeling. It just is. Almost all people who har been pronounced clinically dead but resesitatrd experience some sort of nonphysical perception. There are many books and documentaries on the subject. And I think we can agree that if the experiencer has seen or experienced a Astral or causal plane. And knows that the "i am" of the self still exsists in a non-physical realm than of course conscienceness goes on. But perhaps this experience of being without a physical body is so unnatural to how we are wired from birth to think that it takes more than faith. And logic will always fail to explain because it is unexplainable. Logic tells us yes, here we are, this is it. Get it while the gettin is good. This takes awayresponsibility. Our souls are timeless. Not eternal because eternity is defined as all time. But timeless. As in exsists before during and after time was set on forward trajectory. This is strange to think bout but here's a good question that deserves thought. Time is only relative to space. Outside of space, and all the laws of the natural universe, the progression does not exsists. Near a black hole time is sped up. Gravity Is intertwined with the illusion of time. Just as gravity is an illusion of the physical arena itself.
But If paradigms are shattered by a mystical, transcendent or non local perceptions than you can't go back.


Ok so I'll answer your questions now.
First. You stated. Death is loss of consciences, just like sleep. That almost proves my point. Of course we lose the ability to consciencly Perceive this world. Bit as in death just as sleep there are experiences and events which are non local. Dreams. Wow. What a profound thing. To be an experiencer in a strange and limitless world of the dream planes. And anyone who lucid dreams will attest to knowing who they are, that they are in fact sleeping but stillexperiencing. being born into human form is basically the same. We are dreaming. Lost. And only once one realizes this fact can they be liberated from birth death pain and suffering.

How can I be sure I wasn't imagining. Ok you got me. I can't prove to anyone that I was anywhere other than here. All I can do is tell you about it. Perhaps spark an interest in visiting yourself. But you and all soils have been there. Each time when our soil exits this stage and is bathed in pure bliss and extacy you will remember. And also know as to why we must forget our true home in order to have a human experience. Every aspect of our journey will be laid out before us an each second will have had a purpose. Each person we meet, every twist and turn out lives take, will be like a orchestras of unimaginal design and detail. All leading (hopefully) to a point of god realization. Or the realization that we are all god conscienceness In human form. Lost just trying to get back home.
Strictly my opinion and is neither serious nor important

Space is eternity; if you can become directly aware of the space in the Present Moment then you will see eternity, there is no time, Eternity, the real living universe is Timeless. Time is the measurement of relative motion, it is a concept in the mind that has no real existence out there, in the real living universe. If you can raise your awareness and become completely Present I'm sure you will understand what I mean by Paradise. Come into your kingdom, lay your mortal soul to rest, let it be conquered by the light of your awareness, stop your thinking and just be.

You are God conscious in human form, but you don't have to die to realize it you can awaken to the truth right now. The mortal soul (ego, heart and mind, False self) is lost, but the immortal spirit(awareness, the Silent Witness, You, True Self) is forever found in the Kingdom of heaven, paradise. You have to get back to the garden if you want to find peace, and don't trust that clever little snake inside your mind(the ego, the Thinker) because it will never lead you to where you want to be, it will trap you in the illusion of time and you will remain lost, completely blind to ultimate reality, completely blind to this peaceful paradise.

Yes consciousness is indestructible; You are indestructible, eternal, timeless; you have always been and will always be; you are one with the whole of space, one with eternity, one with God; you are the container of all space time; you are what allows the universe to exist; you are the alpha the omega and the living One. Come into your kingdom, dine with me in Paradise.

Can't you see that I am trying to give you the entire world.

"Everything that I have told you is not for me but for you yourself" Muhammad

I don't have a need to convince you of anything I'm simply trying to invite as many people home as possible. It's ok if they refuse; nothing is important.
 

New Age United

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This is not an alien universe it is your home; stop resisting your fate; surrender; just be.

"Thus you will have the glory of the world, regardless of an abject fate" the emerald tablet
 

tyler.durden

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Strictly my opinion and is neither serious nor important.
Jesus, you're at this again? You started the same thread a year ago, and your Tollean "ideas" and "logic" were crushed. Your desperation to teach and for your stupid ideas to be accepted is nauseating. You are STILL incredibly inept at basic physics and logic, and almost devoid of critical thought. Why? My guess is because you are not interested in objective reality, only the trite ramblings of "enlightened" gurus. Such easy answers. Why not add some variety and crack a few 5th grade science books, at least then you could form a basis for a rational discussion with people that have received their HS diploma...

Can't you see that I am trying to give you the entire world.
You're only trying to make yourself feel better. You have offered nothing of value...

nothing is important.
Certainly nothing you have to say. Go crack a non-fiction book. God, this sub-forum is such shit now...
 
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georgio838

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no wonder philosophers & psychiatrists top themselves more than anyone else...when lifes meanings are thought of too much it just goes from being a multicoloured rainbow to just a big grey sludge?...
 

New Age United

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Jesus, you're at this again? You started the same thread a year ago, and your Tollean "ideas" and "logic" were crushed. Your desperation to teach and for your stupid ideas to be accepted is nauseating. You are STILL incredibly inept at basic physics and logic, and almost devoid of critical thought. Why? My guess is because you are not interested in objective reality, only the trite ramblings of "enlightened" gurus. Such easy answers. Why not add some variety and crack a few 5th grade science books, at least then you could form a basis for a rational discussion with people that have received their HS diploma...



You're only trying to make yourself feel better. You have offered nothing of value...



Certainly nothing you have to say. Go crack a non-fiction book. God, this sub-forum is such shit now...
Mr Durden how ya been bud missed ya. You just keep looking to science for truth, but it won't get you any closer to peace. You can't offend me with your intellect, I could give a fuck less if I'm intelligent.

And my philosophy was not crushed if I recall correctly you asked me to define a few of my terms so we could start a debate but when I did you took off.
 

tyler.durden

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Mr Durden how ya been bud missed ya. You just keep looking to science for truth, but it won't get you any closer to peace. You can't offend me with your intellect, I could give a fuck less if I'm intelligent.
You advertise truth, then bait and switch to peace. The truth regarding objective reality and peace have nothing to do with each other. Most religions emphasize the warm and fuzzy attribute of attaining peace, while their teachings are light years away from anything resembling objective reality. If you were honest you would emphasize attaining peace, and steer clear of claims of truth and reality...

And my philosophy was not crushed if I recall correctly you asked me to define a few of my terms so we could start a debate but when I did you took off.
You do not recall correctly - https://www.rollitup.org/t/does-anyone-want-to-receive-spiritual-enlightenment.644410/

We can see on page 20 you bring up bullshit speculation as a topic for objective debate, which naturally shut down before it started. This is right after you try so desperately to tout the erroneous idea that all truth is intuitive. We show with specific examples of how this idea is simply not true, that great truths regarding reality are often counter-intuitive, but you just keep touting the same bullshit that gives you comfort. You do this throughout the entire thread, this shows that you are not interested in learning, you are concerned about defending your pet ideas and being perceived as 'enlightened'. Ignoring reality cannot lead to truth. You are a fraud...
 
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