Hash oil conversion to cannabis e-liquid

buddhadiesel420

New Member
Grow Goddess.

What you stated was exactly what I was looking for. I'm completely inexperienced with the "oils" of any kind. So today, I got 1 gram and have been trying to figure out how to use it. lol I'm sure they told me at my dispensary, but I'm pretty sure I wasn't listening. I was concentrating on my bud that was being weighed out. HA, anyway, I knew there had to be a very simple way to thin it out, so it would be usable in my sweet ass elect cigs. They are by far one of the most powerful of the 3 I've had. Firebrand.

Everything I have been reading for the last 45 minutes has been very very complicated. Then I see your rant. So easy to follow, explanatory, and straight up. One of the most believable posts I've seen. So, I'm going to find this PG USP you speak of, and do just what you suggested. I'm getting excited, I can't wait to do this and have twice as much or more when I'm done to vape. Question though, how much does it dilute the potency of the extract your mixing it with?

Thanks



Ignorance.
I try to help people then there are so many others posting BS like this.

PG - anti-freeze? That is not the PG you are supposed to use. Propylene Glycol USP which is medical/food grade. You are probably consuming about 1/4 ounce of PG USP in your food every day. At least in your beverages.

All you need to do is mix your concentrate with PG USP until it is runny, then you can vaporize it safely. If you want to say F something, then F the VG, it does not mix properly with concentrates. PG USP is the whoop.

It seems every forum I go to I have to educate everyone about the PG USP.

PG USP is commonly used in e-cigarette oils for good reason. Before spouting off false information, please do your research.

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It dose say Propylene Glycol USP on the label, sorry the USP did not show in the photograph. However, you can see that it is food and medical grade.
 
i assume you plan on evaporating the everclear , it be real stupid to put that in a ecig. pg is much cheaper then everclear anyway
 

Jarcher

New Member
I already have a half of 1/5th from making some tincture. I know it may not be optimal but does it work?/safe?
..and if so are we talking a few drops per grm of oil?

IF it doesnt then so be.... Any knowledge would be apprec.
 

pizzahutdude

New Member
Sigh, so much anger, just because I pointed out that it makes more sense to go with the harmless option over the mostly harmless option.

And again, no, there is no soda in my hand. I dont drink soda. I believe I made that clear. Quit deciding that I and everyone else has compromised their health for convenience as you have. As a patient who must medicate consistently for the rest of their life, "mostly harmless" is not an option for me, nor is it for many other patients.

"I didnt read the studies linking PG to asthma bc I know its safe and youre wrong" way to stay classy, there, netizen. If repeated peer reviewed studies wont convince you of the link, theres no hope to convince you. Way to O'Rielly the argument and avoid learning something that is important to your health, and the health of all the people you are "helping"

You ask for my proof of experience when it comes to ecigs and personal vapes, well, read the link in my sig. I've been making hash oil since before MMJ was a glimmer in the eye of Michigan stoners. Thats great that you got suckered into overpaying for a bunch of rebranded ecigs though. That really is a pretty custom tank, but Im willing to bet it uses a red hot nichrome coil to burn the liquid (and yes, nichrome coils always burn if they touch your liquid. Cannabinoids vape at no higher than 400 degrees f and combust completely at 500, nichrome emits red light at >900 degrees f, you figure out what happens when your oil touches it)

You may insist that the personal vapes are different from ecigs, despite having the same design and materials, but the fact is that atmos is just a rebranded ego tank and the gpen is a standard ecig and the wax burners/trippy sticks et al are just direct drip ecigs. You may get your eliquid from the usa but no faciilities produce PG domestic, they import and then mix it up into eliquid, or repackage into small (<55gallon) containers for resale.

Yes, oil doesnt mix into room temp VG, you have to either warm it up and let it sit for a long time, or you have to mix with limonene (a natural component of marijuana that is responsible for its citrus taste) in order to make it a thin liquid that will mix readily with glycerin at room temp.

You rant that the PG is enhancing it, but thats clearly nonsense. It is neither psychoactive nor does it help cannabinoids cross the bbb nor does it help it get vaped (except as a dilutant to allow oil a low enough visocosity to work with wicked ecig atomizers). Adding an inactive ingredient to something is not "enhancing it", its diluting it. If you disagree, take it up with merriam websters for their flawed descriptions of "dilute" and "enhance"

The eclipse vape, like the assorted globe pipes and skillet, is an excellent way to vape, esp in skilled hands or with a heat gun as a temp source. Kudos for avoiding the methods that put a red hot heating element directly on your oil (like nails etc). Shame you use RSO - it always pulls dilutants and as such contains things that combust before the cannabinoids can vape, meaning its impossible to fully vape RSO without scorching. RSO may be fine for oral but if your vaping using heat, you should think about a lipid only method of extraction. Whatever your method, perform a clean plate test on your solvents first, to be sure they evap cleanly. I know, I know, rick read about an abandoned oil extraction method from the seventies in high times and became very vocal about it, but the science has really advanced since then, and most of the medical community has stopped those kind of extractions and moved on to better methods for good reason a long long time ago, so just try a lipid only extraction and use that in your eclipse before you rant about how RSO is best and vapes clean, you will be amazed by how much smoother lipid only extractions like steam or BHO are. Again, there is more info in the link in my sig, laid out in chapters quite clearly and simply.

Good luck to you, do try to calm down. No ones saying your methods are bad, just pointing out that they are not perfect, and giving the scientific reasons why. You can ignore it and get huffy, or you can read it carefully, gain a new understanding, and spread your newfound enlightenment to your friends in michigan. *peace*
PG has been used as an aerosol disinfectant since the thirties. It is also used in albuterol inhalers. You are thinking of ethylene an diethylene glycol. A study was done on monkeys and rats, of which the animals were subjected to saturation levels of PG aerosol for a period of two years. Only dehydration was observed as a side effect.
 

halo2killer

Well-Known Member
Question... For anyone... I have about 1.5g of BHO fully dried and basically powder wax. How much EJmix should i mix with it? Will it work? what is ejmix? EJmix is the game changing solution to transforming herbal wax and concentrates into liquids for aromatherapy/vaporization. Other common formulas use PG and/or VG, which are very light glycols that work well for synthetic and artificial flavors, but separate like a salad dressing with heavy natural waxes. That will never occur with the EJmix given its heavy medical grade PEG glycols. The EJmix creates stable solutions that produces thick vapor with a great taste, compatible with all devices.
 

Igotthe6

Well-Known Member
Ignorance.
I try to help people then there are so many others posting BS like this.

PG - anti-freeze? That is not the PG you are supposed to use. Propylene Glycol USP which is medical/food grade. You are probably consuming about 1/4 ounce of PG USP in your food every day. At least in your beverages.

All you need to do is mix your concentrate with PG USP until it is runny, then you can vaporize it safely. If you want to say F something, then F the VG, it does not mix properly with concentrates. PG USP is the whoop.

It seems every forum I go to I have to educate everyone about the PG USP.

PG USP is commonly used in e-cigarette oils for good reason. Before spouting off false information, please do your research.

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It dose say Propylene Glycol USP on the label, sorry the USP did not show in the photograph. However, you can see that it is food and medical grade.
 

Mazzp76

New Member
Ignorance.
I try to help people then there are so many others posting BS like this.

PG - anti-freeze? That is not the PG you are supposed to use. Propylene Glycol USP which is medical/food grade. You are probably consuming about 1/4 ounce of PG USP in your food every day. At least in your beverages.

All you need to do is mix your concentrate with PG USP until it is runny, then you can vaporize it safely. If you want to say F something, then F the VG, it does not mix properly with concentrates. PG USP is the whoop.

It seems every forum I go to I have to educate everyone about the PG USP.

PG USP is commonly used in e-cigarette oils for good reason. Before spouting off false information, please do your research.

View attachment 2739091
It dose say Propylene Glycol USP on the label, sorry the USP did not show in the photograph. However, you can see


Although pg is used as a antifrezze its used as a non toxix one. Vg is also used as an antifrezze sugar can be used for antifrezze witch vg is a simple sugar lots of organic non toxic substances can be used exsample water with 66% vg has frezzing point of roughly -40f so it being used as a antifreeze is irrelevant infact vg was the primary antifrezze in cars befor being replaced by ethyleneglycol. vegetable glycerin is made from plants and is a simple sugar alcahol ushaly derrived from soybean or palm other types can be derrived from animal fats and biodiesel production byproducts and some of these glycerins are used to make nitroglycerin an exstreamly exsplsive liquid. pg also can be made from vg. synthetic glycerins im not going into but its the chlorination of propylene. as vaping you want the vege glycerin. Pg is produced from propylene oxide wich is a volitile extramly flammable toxic liquid witch is produced by 2 methods involving hydroclorination of propene wich is the most used or oxidization of propylene or propene using isobutain witch is used to make bho or or ethylbenzene in the presence of a catalyst and air oxidization accurs propene is a flammible gas witch is produced in nature by decay of organic matter. For pg the use meathods to produce from propylene oxide is a hight temp non catilytic process at 370 f or a catalytic process in wich acuurs at 300f in presenceof ion exstange resin sulfuric acid or an alkali myself iv done testing with both and tho the pg sounds worse at the conclusion of my studies and studies done by other peaple points to the conclusion that pg is better but margins were so small that it could be outside influences but i can tell you i prefer pg and vouch for the safety of the material and its better solution to suspend chems in non water soulible chems i use pg all the time in iv benzodiazipine solutions and other water insoluble drugs i also like using for e cigs and marijuana oil suspention for e cigs i find a 50/50 ? Mix of pg vg gives the aproprate effect and seems 2 be the most popular as far as being worried about health issues from pg or vg i would not be concerned whats so ever in my testing i also gave nicotine to patients rats 1.5mg/kg sc 7 days a week for 20 weeks effects were much werse than vg or pg wich had almost not besides some iritation on some patients and yes that guy who said dont use pg becouse its used as antifrezze is vary uneducated becouse his vg he uses was hysterically used as a antifreeze be pg was so to that guy mabie u should stop vaping if you so worried or you could do what i did and get a education i mean realy you can find all this info on internet just goto pick tru it cuz thare are alot of know it all drop outs that put misleading info on internet witch can couse deaths so befor you post educate reserch all that not tryen to be rude but peaple like that make it hard for other peaple just like the whole reserch chem scene bunch of dumb ass kids play with fire ie acytylfentynal butyrfyntynal ultrapotent rc chems and they dont even know what a microgram is what happens they od know you cant get pure ultrapotent rcs could go on but no thank god
 

Mazzp76

New Member
That sounds like too much time to wait lol. Heres how I make mine from preextracted oil: Dissolve the oil in an equal volume of limonene (room temp is fine), this will get you a citrus scented thin liquid that can easily be mixed into pure glycerin at room temp (fuck PG, dont use antifreeze), I usually dilute 1g oil into 5ml limonene and that into 50ml glycerin for a moderately dosed citrus eliquid
Pg perfectly safe in pharmaceutical compunding like diazepam oral solution is 30 % pg. and in diazipam injection solution is 40% vg 10% ethanol 5% sodium benzoate and benzoic acid 1.5% benzyl alcahol and thats 5mg/ml normal dose can be from 2mg to 20 iv so 4ml at 40% thats 1ml pg average every 4 hours pg is safe if u can iv it and when i did studies on my rat patients with iv pg 1ml/kg every 24h for 20 weeks also i studied oral pg and administered 4ml/kg oral with no aparent efects
 

Grow Goddess

Well-Known Member
Grow Goddess.

What you stated was exactly what I was looking for. I'm completely inexperienced with the "oils" of any kind. So today, I got 1 gram and have been trying to figure out how to use it. lol I'm sure they told me at my dispensary, but I'm pretty sure I wasn't listening. I was concentrating on my bud that was being weighed out. HA, anyway, I knew there had to be a very simple way to thin it out, so it would be usable in my sweet ass elect cigs. They are by far one of the most powerful of the 3 I've had. Firebrand.

Everything I have been reading for the last 45 minutes has been very very complicated. Then I see your rant. So easy to follow, explanatory, and straight up. One of the most believable posts I've seen. So, I'm going to find this PG USP you speak of, and do just what you suggested. I'm getting excited, I can't wait to do this and have twice as much or more when I'm done to vape. Question though, how much does it dilute the potency of the extract your mixing it with?

Thanks
On average, for me, whether I use PEG or PG/USP, it dilutes the potency about 50%, sometimes more.

A lot of people ask how much to dilute. Well, that depends on the concentrate you are using. I just dilute it until it is at the velocity that works best for my vaporizer. If it is too thick it will not vape that well. I do like it as potent as possible though.

Sorry, I missed your question, it was not intentional.
 

EAR1974

New Member
Ignorance.
I try to help people then there are so many others posting BS like this.

PG - anti-freeze? That is not the PG you are supposed to use. Propylene Glycol USP which is medical/food grade. You are probably consuming about 1/4 ounce of PG USP in your food every day. At least in your beverages.

All you need to do is mix your concentrate with PG USP until it is runny, then you can vaporize it safely. If you want to say F something, then F the VG, it does not mix properly with concentrates. PG USP is the whoop.

It seems every forum I go to I have to educate everyone about the PG USP.

PG USP is commonly used in e-cigarette oils for good reason. Before spouting off false information, please do your research.

View attachment 2739091
It dose say Propylene Glycol USP on the label, sorry the USP did not show in the photograph. However, you can see that it is food and medical grade.
Ignorance.
I try to help people then there are so many others posting BS like this.

PG - anti-freeze? That is not the PG you are supposed to use. Propylene Glycol USP which is medical/food grade. You are probably consuming about 1/4 ounce of PG USP in your food every day. At least in your beverages.

All you need to do is mix your concentrate with PG USP until it is runny, then you can vaporize it safely. If you want to say F something, then F the VG, it does not mix properly with concentrates. PG USP is the whoop.

It seems every forum I go to I have to educate everyone about the PG USP.

PG USP is commonly used in e-cigarette oils for good reason. Before spouting off false information, please do your research.

View attachment 2739091
It dose say Propylene Glycol USP on the label, sorry the USP did not show in the photograph. However, you can see that it is food and medical grade.
Ethylene Glycol is antifreeze.I happened to meet a living victim of its poison.One of three cases known in my state at the time,and the only living,they wanted to guinea pig the guy who had lived after about 4 weeks in a coma and all his organs tryingbto shut down.Nope,pg is not antifreeze.
 

femmedraven

New Member
I'm so glad I found this forum. I purchased a couple of different cartridges from my local shop (I have an AZ medical card) and vaping those was way too harsh for my lungs. I ended up sick but I have questionable lungs from years of smoking and I think I have a bit of an allergy when inhaling MJ. I've been vaping instead of smoking cigs for over 5 years and was hoping to find a way to use the Harlequin Extract other than making sublingual drops. I have food grade PG I bought for making the tincture (I've since switched to using MCT oil) and Limonene I've added to that as well. It sounds like I might be able to mix up a test batch of vape liquid using supplies I already have on hand. I don't want to waste my Extract so I'll probably try just making enough for one vape tank full. I use an Aspire vape pen for my nicotine vape juice and have an old spare I can use for this experiment with a new coil. Thank you for the discussion and information! I'll report back if I have any success.
 
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