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Harrekin

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This is going to suck.

Oregon launches program to tax drivers by the mile

By Dan Springer

Published July 03, 2015
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David Hastings is a rare American. This long-time hybrid car owner from Oregon wants to pay higher taxes for roads and bridges and says the current 30 cents per gallon state gas tax barely affects him.

"I've been free-loading on the highways for 20 years driving electric cars or hybrid cars, getting at least 40 miles to the gallon. So I haven't been paying my share," Hastings said.

Now, Hastings will pay more thanks to OReGO -- the first pay-by-the-mile program in the U.S.

Oregon’s Department of Transportation has been working on it for 15 years as a way to eventually replace the gas tax, which has been flat due to an influx of high mileage vehicles and people driving less.

Right now the program is voluntary and being capped at 5,000 participants, but an ODOT official told Fox News the ultimate goal is to make it mandatory and change the way states pay for roads -- forever.

"We're trying to make up for a growing deficit, really, because inflation's eating away at our ability to buy asphalt and rebar and the things we need to maintain the roads," said Tom Fuller of the Oregon Department of Transportation.


According to a national usage fee alliance, 28 states are in various stages of following down the same road. However, there are also privacy concerns. Two of the three OReGO systems track and store a car’s every move.

"To put a GPS monitor in everybody's car, the government already knows too much about us as it is," Jeff Kruse, a Republican lawmaker told Fox News.

Others are raising questions about the cost. Getting the gas tax is cheap, but OReGO vendors will eat up 40 cents of every dollar collected, and for those not used to paying any gas tax, it could be a whole new sticker shock – every month.

Jeff Allen, of “Drive Oregon,” supports the one and a half cent per mile usage fee -- to a point.

"We need to be subsidizing and incentivizing electric cars and not putting more taxes or fees on them, not discouraging people from buying them in any way," Allen said.
If people could just pump their own gas, you could tax the savings made to fix the roads.
 

nitro harley

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If people could just pump their own gas, you could tax the savings made to fix the roads.
I have always liked the station attendant pumping gas while I sit in my truck and the funny thing is when I go to Washington or Cali I have never noticed a savings when I pump my own gas. If anything its seems to be the same price or higher.

The small mom and pop gas station by my house in Hawaii has an attendant pumping gas just like in Oregon and he doesn't charge anymore than the self serve stations and sometimes he is cheaper. So I am not sure where the savings is.
 

Harrekin

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I have always liked the station attendant pumping gas while I sit in my truck and the funny thing is when I go to Washington or Cali I have never noticed a savings when I pump my own gas. If anything its seems to be the same price or higher.

The small mom and pop gas station by my house in Hawaii has an attendant pumping gas just like in Oregon and he doesn't charge anymore than the self serve stations and sometimes he is cheaper. So I am not sure where the savings is.
In Oregon from what I've read it's illegal to pump your own gas, most large chain stations would have to pay a staff member to do that.

Biggest cost of all is labour.
 

schuylaar

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I have always liked the station attendant pumping gas while I sit in my truck and the funny thing is when I go to Washington or Cali I have never noticed a savings when I pump my own gas. If anything its seems to be the same price or higher.

The small mom and pop gas station by my house in Hawaii has an attendant pumping gas just like in Oregon and he doesn't charge anymore than the self serve stations and sometimes he is cheaper. So I am not sure where the savings is.
i can say i do miss this too..i think in nj they still pump..
 

nitro harley

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In Oregon from what I've read it's illegal to pump your own gas, most large chain stations would have to pay a staff member to do that.

Biggest cost of all is labour.
Harrekin, you are correct about Oregon and there gas pumping law. But the thing is ,is the price of gas isn't any different in states that have you pump your own that I have noticed. Like washington and Cali could be more per gallon than Oregon, so I don't really see any savings for pumping your own when I am on a road trip. imo
 

UncleBuck

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In Oregon from what I've read it's illegal to pump your own gas, most large chain stations would have to pay a staff member to do that.

Biggest cost of all is labour.
do you ever stop crying for corporations?

if you had as much empathy for minorities, jews, women, gays, and the like as you do for large corporations, you might not be a total 4'11'' piece of shit.
 

Harrekin

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Harrekin, you are correct about Oregon and there gas pumping law. But the thing is ,is the price of gas isn't any different in states that have you pump your own that I have noticed. Like washington and Cali could be more per gallon than Oregon, so I don't really see any savings for pumping your own when I am on a road trip. imo
The savings are the company's staff costs to man the pumps.

If they paid even a fraction of the labour they had to pay pump attendants then a tax increase wouldn't be necessary.
 

nitro harley

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The savings are the company's staff costs to man the pumps.

If they paid even a fraction of the labour they had to pay pump attendants then a tax increase wouldn't be necessary.
People are driving less now so the state is hurting for money. Kinda like when fewer people smoke cigs the state starts hurting for money. I guess if people weren't hurting for money they would drive more.

The democrats are in total control of Oregon so they will fix things for everybody, I am sure of it. A tax by the mile for poor people , hmmm,. I would of never thought of that. What a brain storm of an idea. Those democrats are some smart fuckers.
 

UncleBuck

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People are driving less now so the state is hurting for money. Kinda like when fewer people smoke cigs the state starts hurting for money. I guess if people weren't hurting for money they would drive more.

The democrats are in total control of Oregon so they will fix things for everybody, I am sure of it. A tax by the mile for poor people , hmmm,. I would of never thought of that. What a brain storm of an idea. Those democrats are some smart fuckers.
if you hate democrats so much and think they are so dumb, why did you move from the second most liberal state int he nation to the most liberal state in the nation?
 

nitro harley

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Here is a report for the two most liberal states in america, and take note of where they are on the list of the worst states to make a living .

Democrats really know how to getter done.


10 worst states in America to make a living in 2015
Eric McWhinnie, The Cheat Sheet9:32 a.m. EDT July 5, 2015
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We all want to make a good living, but the rat race doesn't provide the same course obstacles in every state. America's status quo now includes a painfully obvious split economy. Some citizens are experiencing a rebound in prosperity, while others are dumbfounded by the use of "recovery" in headlines. Either way, location plays a major part in your personal finances.

The United States is a collection of mini-economies. MoneyRates.com recently analyzed every state to find where workers have the best or worst shot to make a good living, based on employment statistics and living expenses. The financial site evaluated the five key factors listed below.

Average wages: Average annual wage data is from the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics.

State tax rates: MoneyRates analyzed the state tax information collected by the research group Tax Foundation.

Cost of living: Data was sourced from the Council for Community and Economic Research's Cost of Living Index.

The unemployment rate: U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics.

Incidents of workplace illness, injuries, and fatalities: This workplace safety data is from the BLS, which sourced data from employer reports to the U.S. Occupational Safety and Health Administration and the BLS Survey of Occupational Injuries and Illnesses.

After finishing second on the list last year, Texas ranks as the best state in 2015 to make a living. The Lone Star State swapped places with runner-up Washington, while Wyoming finished third. All three top states do not have a state income tax, and offer attractive employment opportunities in addition to favorable cost of living environments. Virginia, Illinois, Michigan, Colorado, Delaware, Ohio, and Utah round out the best 10.

Let's take a closer look at the 10 worst states in America to make a living in 2015.

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10. ConnecticutConnecticut ranks as the No. 10 worst state in America to make a living in 2015, despite improving by five spots this year. The average income sounds impressive at $55,060, but Connecticut has a high cost of living and high unemployment. In fact, Hawaii California, Alaska, and New York are the only states with a higher cost of living. Workplace safety is also a concern. The estimated state tax on average income is $2,578.30.

9. Rhode IslandResidents looking to flee Connecticut may want to think twice before considering its neighbor, Rhode Island. The Ocean State ranks as the No. 9 worst state to make a living. That's an improvement from No. 4 last year, but the state still has high unemployment and the average income of $49,570 is not enough to make up for the high cost of living. On the positive, workplace safety is in line with the rest of the nation, and the estimated state tax on average income totals $1,858.88, significantly lower than other states like New York, Massachusetts, Maine, and Connecticut.

8. South DakotaSouth Dakota has several positive factors, but still ranks as the No. 8 worst state to make a living. It has no state income tax, low unemployment, and relatively safe work environments. However, low unemployment does not appear to be translating into higher wages. The average income is only $37,300, the second lowest in the nation (Mississippi is the worst at $36,750). Furthermore, the cost of living index comes in at 101.3, the best on this list, but fairly average compared to the rest of the U.S.

7. MontanaMontana suffers much of the same economic pitfalls as South Dakota, and ranks as the No. 7 worst state to make a living. Montana enjoys low unemployment and an average cost of living index, but the average income is $39,880. Unlike South Dakota, Montana also has a state income tax, costing an estimated average of $2,208.72. Making matters worse, Montana's workplace safety ranks as one of the worst in the nation.

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6. CaliforniaThere's a steep price to pay for sunshine and ocean waves all year long. California has one of the biggest economies in the world, but managed to rank as the No. 6 worst state to make a living. The average income of $53,890 does not go far with a cost of living index of 138.2, the second highest in the nation. Furthermore, unemployment is high and workplace safety is poor. The estimated state tax on average income is $2,523, respectable when compared to other high-cost states.

5. VermontThe Green Mountain State may not actually be a good location for you to earn some green. Vermont ranks as the No. 5 worst state to make a living. It has a low unemployment rate and a reasonable estimated state tax on average income of $1,829.47, but that's not enough to compensate for a high cost of living and an average income of $44,540. Vermont is also tied with Maine for the highest frequency of workplace safety incidents.

4. West VirginiaWest Virginia ranks as the No. 4 worst state to make a living. The state suffers from one of the worst unemployment rates in the nation. When residents do find a job, disappointment may accompany their paychecks. The average income is only $37,880, while the cost of living is slightly more than average. On the positive, the estimated state tax on average income comes to $1,479.60, the second lowest on the list.

3. MaineMaine ranks as the No. 3 worst state to make a living. The biggest negative factor impacting workers is the high amount of workplace safety incidents. Maine is tied for the highest frequency of workplace illness, injuries, and fatalities (5.3 workplace incidents per 100 workers). The cost of living is also above average, while the average income is $42,140. The estimated state tax on average income is $2,709.16.

2. OregonOregon ranks as the No. 2 worst state to make a living, plummeting 11 spots from the prior year. The state's cost of living index is nearly 30% above the national average at 128.5. The average income is $46,850. In addition to high unemployment, Oregon has one of the highest rates of workplace safety incidents in the nation (4.2 workplace incidents per 100 workers). In March 2015, Oregon noted that there was a slight rise in worker fatalities in 2014 from the previous year. The estimated state tax on average income is $3,981.50.

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1. HawaiiParadise is not cheap. Hawaii ranks as the No. 1 worst state to make a living in 2015. The state's cost of living index is a whopping 170.8, driven by housing costs. The estimated state tax on average income totals $3,073.77. An average income of $46,230 is in line with the rest of the nation, but when you adjust for taxes and the cost of living, workers in Hawaii get the equivalent value of just $0.55 for every $1.00 they make.
 

nitro harley

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TRUMP LOOKS TO BE GAINING GROUND.

Despite Offensive Comments, Donald Trump Polls Strong In New Hampshire
JULY 03, 2015 4:28 PM ET
JOSH ROGERS
All Things Considered

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Real estate mogul and reality TV star Donald Trump is polling surprisingly well in New Hampshire. NPR unpacks Trump's appeal to the state's voters.

RACHEL MARTIN, HOST:

For businessman, reality TV star and now Republican presidential candidate, Donald Trump, it has been a good week, and it has been a bad week. Trump has seen some of his business deals fall apart because of his inflammatory statements on immigration. But his poll numbers are strong in early primary states, and he drew hundreds of people during a campaign stop in New Hampshire. To get a sense of Trump's appeal, Josh Rogers of New Hampshire Public Radio followed the candidate around.

JOSH ROGERS: New Hampshire's a place where even the most high-profile candidates tend to court voters hat-in-hand - most candidates.

DONALD TRUMP: You know, it's very interesting. Somebody said I made a fantastic speech two weeks ago. They say my only problem is I speak through the applause, and I kill all the applause. And you know what? I understand that, but I don't have time to wait. I don't care. I don't care.

ROGERS: More than 200 supporters came out to see Donald Trump in the wealthy, highly Republican town of Bedford. They crowded around the edge of a backyard swimming pool as he spoke off the cuff for close to an hour.

TRUMP: We're stupid. Our leaders are stupid people. They are incompetent.

ROGERS: But Trump's incendiary comments on immigration and his blanket accusation that Mexicans bring drugs and crime across the border have hurt his business interests. NBC, the Spanish-language station Univision and Macy's all cut ties with Trump this week. In New Hampshire, Trump brandished a sheaf of news articles he says backs him up.

TRUMP: I have hundreds of these articles - hundreds. (Reading) Illegal alien rapes and murders young baby in New Mexico.

OK? By the way - hundreds of these articles.

ROGERS: To supporters, this sort of talk is at the center of Trump's appeal. Steve Stepanek is Trump's New Hampshire campaign chairman.

STEVE STEPANEK: He's telling people what everybody wants to say but is afraid to say.

ROGERS: Phyllis York, a retiree, says the GOP needs what Trump has.

PHYLLIS YORK: It's time to see what we can do with someone more aggressive, someone whose style is - I don't care what you think, we're going to try this.

ROGERS: Some New Hampshire Republicans say Trump's campaign is a sideshow, but they doubt it will have a lasting effect on the presidential race. Tom Rath is a former National Committee member who says the state's citizens take their first-in-the-nation primary vote seriously.

TOM RATH: And it would be hard for anybody to say that a vote for Donald Trump would be anything other than a waste.

ROGERS: While the polls do put Trump in second place, they also point to a big weakness - most primary voters view him negatively. Still, based on the current numbers, Trump stands a chance of landing a spot in the first GOP debate next month in Ohio. His backers are already relishing the opportunity.

JEFF KASSEL: People are going to have to come out swinging. He's the Mike Tyson of the Republican Party.

ROGERS: Former psychologist Jeff Kassel says he voted for President Obama over Mitt Romney four years ago, in part because Obama was the more exciting candidate.

KASSEL: I think we're at a point where narcissism is meeting history - colliding with it.

ROGERS: By that measure, Kassel says, 2016 should be a very good year for Donald Trump. For NPR News, I'm Josh Rogers in Concord, N.H.
 

nitro harley

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Fox News Reports.

This is a bummer while out boating .

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Sturgeon jumps on boat, kills girl, 5, and injures two others
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Florida officials are investigating a sturgeon strike that killed a 5-year-old girl and injured her mother and older brother.

All three were on a boat on the Suwannee River in Dixie County Thursday night when a huge sturgeon jumped out of the water and smacked into them.

“Our thoughts and prayers go out to the family at this time,” Florida Fish and Wildlife Commission regional director Andy Krause said. “This is a terrible tragedy.”

A spokeswoman for the agency said many details are still under investigation, the Gainesville Sun reported Saturday.

Wildlife officials identified the dead girl as Jaylon Rippy of Trenton, Fla.

She was airlifted to a Gainesville Hospital, along with her mother, Tanya Rippy, 31, and her 9-year-old brother Trevor.


The boy suffered a broken arm, WCJB-TV reported Saturday.

The mother sustained injuries to her face mostly around her eyes, the station said.

The Sun said Jaylon’s father, who was on the boat, was not injured.

WCJB reported that Jaylon and her family were on a friend's boat. The sturgeon hit them as they were helping the friend take the boat out of the water near the Joe Anderson Boat Ramp in Fanning Springs.

Wildlife officials said Jaylon is the first fatality recorded from a sturgeon strike on the Suwannee River. Several others have been injured by jumping sturgeon this year.

The most recent incident took place Friday when a Sanderson couple was struck while boating on the Santa Fe River heading eastbound from the Suwannee. Colleen Harvey, 42, and her husband Charles, 41, were taken to the hospital.

The fish are known for leaping more than 7 feet above the water. They can grow up to 8 feet long and weigh up to 200 pounds and can cause serious injuries.

The Sun said sturgeon usually return from the Gulf to the Suwannee in the spring and that low river levels this year are causing the sturgeon to jump more frequently than in recent years. The newspaper said scientists can’t explain why the fish jump, but they are confident the fish are not trying to attack boaters.

WCJB said family friends have established a fundraising page on GoFundMe to help the Rippy family raise money to defray funeral and medical costs.

The Associated Press contributed to this report.
 

nitro harley

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Here is an example of total Oregon democratic control. This is pretty fucked up, it's no wonder they want to tax people by the mile. Collect rain water and go to jail, fuck whats next.



 

UncleBuck

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Here is an example of total Oregon democratic control. This is pretty fucked up, it's no wonder they want to tax people by the mile. Collect rain water and go to jail, fuck whats next.



he was "collecting rainwater" by damming a river. he had plead guilty to it in court already and did it again as soon as his probation was up.

you're such a fucking dumbass.

if you hate liberal states so much, why do you only ever move to the most liberal states?

go try arkansas.
 

nitro harley

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Do you think that every demonstration can and should be broken up by violence if somebody is offended?
I said it once and I will say it again. Burning flags in front of veterans is not a peaceful demonstration. If they were protesting cops why don't they burn cop uniforms instead?
 

Fogdog

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I said it once and I will say it again. Burning flags in front of veterans is not a peaceful demonstration. If they were protesting cops why don't they burn cop uniforms instead?
It was nonviolent and the bikers violently broke it up. Do you believe that anybody offended by a nonviolent protest may do this? Only veterans can do this?
 
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