Will she make it?

Alienwidow

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The bottom leaf is almost gone, which indicates that plant can not feed itself from the soil. The rest of the leaves indicates nutrient burns.

@JohnySmith1 is quite right for the things he said.
Tho plant at this age needs nothing than plain soil.
Therefore all you arguments were all off topic.

@Alienwidow You are not even trying to understand what people are telling you. You jump into arguments always saying the opposite not even knowing what u argue about, which makes u sound very stupid sometimes.
oh no little girl, i understand exactly what hes trying to explain to me. He believes that plants need to be told what to do, when the fact is that they do quite well when they are given a balanced nutrition food throughout, 3-1-2 is about right, personally i lower nitrogen and calmag in the last two weeks too stop growing and hasten ripening. Ive used silica in many grows, the fact is that branches with two oz dry colas are going to lean over and break regardless what you add to the plant. Save the money and buy a trellis or some bamboo and string which youll need anyway.

Oh and as for your diagnosis of the plant in question can you tell us all how the bottom leaf being almost gone is an indication that the plant cant feed itself from the soil?

Fn noobs think they know soooo much, five days ago your plant was on its way to DIEING! Yet you feel the need to tell others how to diagnose their problems and get pissed because pros are questioning bs?

Cant wait to see some posted lit on how the bottom leaf being gone indicates the plant cant feed itself from the soil. Hahahahahahahaaa.
 

JohnySmith1

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You don't need

You can grow with many different ratios. The whole high P thing is a myth. If you were as experienced at growing as you are at copying and pasting and parroting myths, you would know that. All the buds attached were grown with a 3-1-5 ratio from veg to chop except for the super lemon haze which actually does prefer slightly more P so therefore she was fed with a 3-2-4 ratio during flower. Additionally, I've never had plants break under their own weight -- an oscillating fan does fine at strengthening branches -- silica is 100% unnecessary. And once again, all micro-nutrients for optimal plant health are in whatever nutrient line one decides to use -- base nutrients only -- no additives necessary -- if your plant is healthy, your roots don't require any stimulating.
Most of this plants have one or more deficiency, the one on picture 027 is been through hell, though it have some impressive size buds full of resin. These are just a THC crystals, because of all these stresses, cannabinoids composition have been disturbed and these buds will give you some bad side affects like paranoia. However on the picture 065, you have obviously very chemically potent plant. with good cannabinoids ratio. I bet you will notice the difference when you smoke it.
 

unwine99

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Most of this plants have one or more deficiency, the one on picture 027 is been through hell, though it have some impressive size buds full of resin. These are just a THC crystals, because of all these stresses, cannabinoids composition have been disturbed and these buds will give you some bad side affects like paranoia. However on the picture 065, you have obviously very chemically potent plant. with good cannabinoids ratio. I bet you will notice the difference when you smoke it.
27, 63 and 10 were all chopped that day. The very slight deficiencies are from giving only water the last 5 days. They were all over 65 days. The white widow to which you are referring, was in week 6. Please tell me more about the Ak47 that I've been growing for 10 years and how it will probably give me paranoia? Let me hear your insight on what hell it had gone through. I'm dying to hear it. :rolleyes:
 

JohnySmith1

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So what your saying is that you dont need any of that stuff to grow kick ass bud? Exactly ;)
I think kick ass means different thing to us) I smoked some small buds with almost no smell, and I experienced very pleasant high, I also have smoked some monster buds , sticky and smelly, and I had some very bad mental experience. Judging cannabis quality by it's size and amount of crystals is not always enough.
 

JohnySmith1

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27, 63 and 10 were all chopped that day. The very slight deficiencies are from giving only water the last 5 days. They were all over 65 days. The white widow to which you are referring, was in week 6. Please tell me more about the Ak47 that I've been growing for 10 years and how it will probably give me paranoia? Let me hear your insight on what hell it had gone through. I'm dying to hear it. :rolleyes:
Sorry but I had enough explaining the same thing over and over again. Your Ak 47 had nutrient burn previously, and on the picture it has multiple deficiency. Your WW is in very good shape, all leaves are perky and identical in colour. If you won't let it starve, by giving it plain water, you will have some good results.
 

GrowUrOwnDank

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27, 63 and 10 were all chopped that day. The very slight deficiencies are from giving only water the last 5 days. They were all over 65 days. The white widow to which you are referring, was in week 6. Please tell me more about the Ak47 that I've been growing for 10 years and how it will probably give me paranoia? Let me hear your insight on what hell it had gone through. I'm dying to hear it. :rolleyes:
I think kick ass means different thing to us) I smoked some small buds with almost no smell, and I experienced very pleasant high, I also have smoked some monster buds , sticky and smelly, and I had some very bad mental experience. Judging cannabis quality by it's size and amount of crystals is not always enough.
I just smoked some Original Amnesia. Circa 2013. Wait, no that's when the freebie came. So I don't really know when it was popped outta momma or how old grandma is or anything.

I gotta pretty good feel good going on right now.

Now, my buds assures me that his buds bud, says its just like a week into cure. Smelled kinda yucky when he was drying it in the air, he said. But now, just a week later you pop the top off that jar loaded with a Boveda. For 12 hours or so now, he said the other guy said. OMFG! That shit smells like a citrus Christmas tree. And I thought his buds bud said that lemon was loud.

I dunno. Can someone look that stuff up on Wikipedia? I'm too stoned I think off my buds buds buds stuff.

Life is good. TGIF! :eyesmoke:
 

Alienwidow

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I think kick ass means different thing to us) I smoked some small buds with almost no smell, and I experienced very pleasant high, I also have smoked some monster buds , sticky and smelly, and I had some very bad mental experience. Judging cannabis quality by it's size and amount of crystals is not always enough.
Sounds like you enjoy weak weed more than strong weed. Thats pretty much the opposite of everyone that smokes weed. If you want your cannabis to be small and not crystally then thats your prerogative. Also when you want to stop spending a fortune trying to magically coax a better product with dollar bills, theres plenty of threads around here thatll show you what your doing thats wasting money.
 

LetsGetCritical

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No doubt that method works for you, otherwise why would you go to all that trouble? Telling OP to chop was just bad advice. Done right his herb plant can recover and potentially, assuming his auto genes are good he can still get a decent harvest of an O or more which AINT bad for some auto strains. I had a Dinafem CJ, I screwed up early and stunted the heck out of it. It was in a hempy bucket and I managed to turn it around and get an O. P.S. It could have just been a bad seed. Stunted a Dinafem Amnesia photo once too, or maybe it was bad genes and the seedling was retarded. Growing like 2 leaves on its first true set of leaves. I let it go and although it took a month or so to turn it around, it turned into a beautiful plant and produced wonderful dank. The CJ is the best I ever had smoke wise. Not as easy to grow than others in my experience. It was a freebie, so again. Could have been a bad seed. But, I made it work out.

Anyway, I feel telling OP to chop was bad advice. Your very well written description of your method is fine for you, but in my opinion way too complicated for an auto. One of my best autos EVER was grown in Miracle Grow soil using MG Ferts just like you would use for your flower or veg garden.

Bottom line. There is way too much complicated information on the RIU from newbs who make out like growing weed is all rocket science. It's just growing weed. You can grow autos on the cheap, and I feel the reason most newbs fuck it up is because they are reading way too much oberly complicated crap on the RIU.

KEEP IT SIMPLE STUPID is my growing method. Hempy buckets, Hardy auto seeds from like Dinafem and Sweet Seeds and simple Lucas Formula(now). Used to I used simple 3 part GH Flora series. I have never lost a plant yet. Even when I tried and succeeded in different soils and DWC with a GH powergrower. Dank was achieved.

Bottom line. Most of the growers here are not going to win any kind of Cup competitions. But, we can supply ourselves with our own serious dank using simple, tried and true methods of GROWING WEEDS!

No offense dude. I just feel you are kinda new and really believe and get good results. You just seem to go about it the hard way.
um, hate to break it to you but marijuana is actually not a weed mr. never posts pictures of her 'dank'
 

SweetHayz

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Oh and as for your diagnosis of the plant in question can you tell us all how the bottom leaf being almost gone is an indication that the plant cant feed itself from the soil?
@Alienwidow
When plant can not feed itself it move all available nutes from the bottom leaves, moving them towards the top, feeding the premature fresh leaves.

As far for my plant, is my 1st experimental grow in hydro which i transplanted from soil. That created some extra issues. But anyway i managed to bring it back to life.
And yes i'm here still wondering in this forums generally because of u. I seem to be amused by the stupidity within you.

Do u want me to quote how u claimed u grew hydroponics at 8-10 pH fluctuations Mr.Plant Killer?
 

Alienwidow

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@Alienwidow
When plant can not feed itself it move all available nutes from the bottom leaves, moving them towards the top, feeding the premature fresh leaves.

As far for my plant, is my 1st experimental grow in hydro which i transplanted from soil. That created some extra issues. But anyway i managed to bring it back to life.
And yes i'm here still wondering in this forums generally because of u. I seem to be amused by the stupidity within you.

Do u want me to quote how u claimed u grew hydroponics at 8-10 pH fluctuations Mr.Plant Killer?
Go ahead, if you had one onehundreth the expirence i do with growing you wouldnt care either. Ya, i had a great dwc hydro grow with a ph that swung from 8-10 in two weeks between rez changes. I can still remember the dark green color from the ph drops. The reason i shared that story with you was to try and explain to you how hardy the plant really is and how those ph charts were made by the ph up and down retailers.

As for the explination of your theory, its crap, no posted science, and you can go over to grass city and take johnybs with you.
 

Alienwidow

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Most of this plants have one or more deficiency, the one on picture 027 is been through hell, though it have some impressive size buds full of resin. These are just a THC crystals, because of all these stresses, cannabinoids composition have been disturbed and these buds will give you some bad side affects like paranoia. However on the picture 065, you have obviously very chemically potent plant. with good cannabinoids ratio. I bet you will notice the difference when you smoke it.
please explain this crap, im going to go ahead an call you a shit spewing moron right now and if you can post some science on being able to tell cannabinoid ratio by looking at a plant ill post in my sig that im the biggest fucking idiot that kills plants 24/7 on riu and johnysmith is the god of growing. If you cant post science on how you can look at a plant and tell cannabinoid content then why dont you just gtfo with your shit spewing gf sweethays ;)
 

Alienwidow

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27, 63 and 10 were all chopped that day. The very slight deficiencies are from giving only water the last 5 days. They were all over 65 days. The white widow to which you are referring, was in week 6. Please tell me more about the Ak47 that I've been growing for 10 years and how it will probably give me paranoia? Let me hear your insight on what hell it had gone through. I'm dying to hear it. :rolleyes:
Holy fucking noob fuckfest on this thread. Shoot me in the face.
 

SweetHayz

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@Alienwidow for my hydro i'm using sulfuric acid as pH down which cost me 8$ for a 1 gallon bottle 98% concentration which i dissolve in DI mineral free water 10:1 and i use only few drops to lower my pH and trust me it keeps it quite stable its been day 2 and it hasn't move from 5.9. As for pH up I usually add some tap water. :)
I couldn't use hydro pH up and down even if i wanted to. Because they don't ship to my country.
I previously used white vinegar to regulate pH for my soil grow. And proper pH does make the difference.
 

JohnySmith1

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shit spewing moron? hahaha You really are
please explain this crap, im going to go ahead an call you a shit spewing moron right now and if you can post some science on being able to tell cannabinoid ratio by looking at a plant ill post in my sig that im the biggest fucking idiot that kills plants 24/7 on riu and johnysmith is the god of growing. If you cant post science on how you can look at a plant and tell cannabinoid content then why dont you just gtfo with your shit spewing gf sweethays ;)
I will ignore your stupidity go ahead and answer you. I don't know what's your reason on this forum, are you looking for the way to build up your self-esteem by arguing every one? My reason here is to shear the stuff I know and checked with people who having difficulties. If you think some of the information I am shearing is wrong, please be so kind and find some evidence to that, before insulting and accusing someone.

You asked me, how do I know the cannabinoid ratio by looking at the plant? Well I don't and I never said I do! All I can see is a healthy part of plant, and the part that has been through multiple stresses, so I predict, healthy plant will have a good cannabinoid ratio. You want some science, like what? Do you need an equation or something like this? I don't have an equation, but here are some facts from Wiki

1. Wikipedia:
Cannabis (Marijuana) is a popular psychoactive plant that is often used medically and recreationally. Cannabis is also unique in that it contains a psychoactive substance, THC, which contains no nitrogen and is not an indole, tryptamine,phenethylamine, anticholinergic (deliriant), or a dissociative drug. Cannabis plants tend to vary, with different strains producing dynamic balances of psychoactive cannabinoids (THC, CBD, etc.) that cause different strains to produce markedly different effects,

Here you go, here is some content from Wikipedia, if you read it carefully, you will be able to notice, what they say, about cannabinoids and how their ratio make a different effect to a human.
This proves my point about importance of cannabinoid ratio.

2. Wikipedia: Plant Nutrition
At least 17 elements are known to be essential nutrients for plants. In relatively large amounts, the soil supplies nitrogen, phosphorus, potassium, calcium, magnesium, and sulphur; these are often called the macronutrients. In relatively small amounts, the soilsupplies iron, manganese, boron, molybdenum, copper, zinc, chlorine, and cobalt, the so-called micronutrients. Nutrients must be available not only in sufficient amounts but also in appropriate ratios.

NPK + Ca + Mg is only 5 elements, where dose your plant suppose to take an other 12 elements? If you think your grow or bloom base NPK nutrients have all macro and micro, think again.
This article also says, this 17 elements are essential, and even if your plants grow with only NPK + Ca + Mg, they will never reach their full cannabinoid potency.


3. Wikipedia:
Plant nutrition is a difficult subject to understand completely, partially because of the variation between different plants and even between different species or individuals of a given clone. Elements present at low levels may cause deficiency symptoms, and toxicity is possible at levels that are too high. Furthermore, deficiency of one element may present as symptoms of toxicity from another element, and vice versa.

It's not easy to grow any plant including cannabis, as I already said, you only find it easy, because you have ready made nutrients and instruction.


4. Wikipedia:
Silicon

Silicon is considered an essential element for plant growth and development.

In plants, silicon has been shown in experiments to
strengthen cell walls, improve plant strength, health, and productivity.[19] There have been studies showing evidence of silicon improving drought and frost resistance, decreasing lodging potential and boosting the plant's natural pest and disease fighting systems.[20] Silicon has also been shown to improve plant vigor and physiology by improving root mass and density, and increasing above ground plant biomass and crop yields.[19] Silicon is currently under consideration by the Association of American Plant Food Control Officials (AAPFCO) for elevation to the status of a "plant beneficial substance


You say silicon is no necessary, well AAPFCO is not agreed with you:)


Micro-nutrients[edit]

Iron[edit]
Iron is necessary for photosynthesis and is present as an enzyme cofactor in plants. Iron deficiency can result in interveinal chlorosis and necrosis. Iron is not a structural part of chlorophyll but very much essential for its synthesis. Copper deficiency can be responsible for promoting an iron deficiency.[24]

Molybdenum[edit]
Molybdenum is a cofactor to enzymes important in building amino acids. Involved in Nitrogen metabolism. Mo is part of Nitrate reductase enzyme.

Boron[edit]
Boron is important for binding of pectins in the RGII region of the primary cell wall, secondary roles may be in sugar transport, cell division, and synthesizing certain enzymes. Boron deficiency causes necrosis in young leaves and stunting.Boron is required for the uptake and utilization of calcium,membrane functioning ,pollen germination,cell elongation,cell differentiation and carbohydrate metabolism.

Copper[edit]
Copper is important for photosynthesis. Symptoms for copper deficiency include chlorosis. Involved in many enzyme processes. Necessary for proper photosythesis. Involved in the manufacture of lignin (cell walls). Involved in grain production. It is also hard to find in some conditions.

Manganese[edit]
Manganese is necessary for photosynthesis,[17] including the building of chloroplasts. Manganese deficiency may result in coloration abnormalities, such as discolored spots on the foliage.

Please read this, and think again about importance of micro nutrients.
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