Avoiding the question

reddan1981

Well-Known Member
Avoiding the Issue


(also known as: avoiding the question [form of], missing the point, straying off the subject, digressing, distraction [form of])

Description: When an arguer responds to an argument by not addressing the points of the argument. Unlike the strawman fallacy, avoiding the issue does not create an unrelated argument to divert attention, it simply avoids the argument.

Logical Form:

X is Y. Did you see that new show on TV last night?

Example #1:

Daryl: Answer honestly, do you think if we were born and raised in Iran, by Iranian parents, we would still be Christian, or would we be Muslim?

Ross: I think those of us raised in a place where Christianity is taught are fortunate.

Daryl: I agree, but do you think if we were born and raised in Iran, by Iranian parents, we would still be Christian, or would we be Muslim?

Ross: Your faith is weak -- you need to pray to God to make it stronger.

Daryl: I guess you’re right. What was I thinking?

Explanation: Some questions are not easy to answer, and some answers are not easy to accept. While it may seem, at the time, like avoiding the question is the best action, it is actually an abandonment of reason and honest inquiry; therefore, fallacious.

In the above example, Daryl is attempting to demonstrate that religion is a cultural phenomenon and belief is mostly a result of one's culture. To claim that this would mean that any particular religion does not represent the truth would be fallacious. All we can know from multiple religions that make conflicting claims is that they all cannot be right.

Example #2:

Molly: It is 3:00 in the morning, you are drunk, covered in lipstick, and your shirt is on backwards! Would you care to explain yourself?

Rick: I was out with the guys.

Molly: And the lipstick?

Rick: You look wonderful tonight, honey!

Molly: (softening) You think so? I got my hair cut today!

Explanation: It is not difficult to digress a line of questioning, so beware of these attempts.

Exception: At times, a digression is a good way to take the pressure off of a highly emotional argument. A funny story, a joke, or anything used as a “break” could be a very good thing at times. As long as the issue is dealt with again.

Tip: Don’t avoid questions where you are afraid you won’t like the answers. Face them head on, and deal with the truth.

Variation: Distraction can be a form of avoiding the issue, but does not have to be just verbal. For example, being asked a question you can’t answer and pretending your phone rings, saying you need to use the restroom, faking a heart attack, etc.
 

Wavels

Well-Known Member
A few members here resort to childish and inane name calling, relying upon coarse and vulgar personal invective in order to "win" the argument and answer the unworthy question.
And what is so pathetic is that they think that they "winning". Amazing.
Romper room on steroids. This is the playpen of RIU politics.
 
Last edited:

UncleBuck

Well-Known Member
A few members here resort to childish and inane name calling, relying upon coarse and vulgar personal invective in order to "win" the argument and answer the unworthy question.
And what is so pathetic is that they think that they "winning". Amazing.
Romper room on steroids. This is the playpen of RIU politics.
so why is the washington post a worthy source of information when it comes to obama's honesty, but part of a worldwide conspiratorial hoax when they discuss the reality of anthropogenic global warming?

you always avoid that question.
 

UncleBuck

Well-Known Member
Avoiding the Issue


(also known as: avoiding the question [form of], missing the point, straying off the subject, digressing, distraction [form of])

Description: When an arguer responds to an argument by not addressing the points of the argument. Unlike the strawman fallacy, avoiding the issue does not create an unrelated argument to divert attention, it simply avoids the argument.

Logical Form:

X is Y. Did you see that new show on TV last night?

Example #1:

Daryl: Answer honestly, do you think if we were born and raised in Iran, by Iranian parents, we would still be Christian, or would we be Muslim?

Ross: I think those of us raised in a place where Christianity is taught are fortunate.

Daryl: I agree, but do you think if we were born and raised in Iran, by Iranian parents, we would still be Christian, or would we be Muslim?

Ross: Your faith is weak -- you need to pray to God to make it stronger.

Daryl: I guess you’re right. What was I thinking?

Explanation: Some questions are not easy to answer, and some answers are not easy to accept. While it may seem, at the time, like avoiding the question is the best action, it is actually an abandonment of reason and honest inquiry; therefore, fallacious.

In the above example, Daryl is attempting to demonstrate that religion is a cultural phenomenon and belief is mostly a result of one's culture. To claim that this would mean that any particular religion does not represent the truth would be fallacious. All we can know from multiple religions that make conflicting claims is that they all cannot be right.

Example #2:

Molly: It is 3:00 in the morning, you are drunk, covered in lipstick, and your shirt is on backwards! Would you care to explain yourself?

Rick: I was out with the guys.

Molly: And the lipstick?

Rick: You look wonderful tonight, honey!

Molly: (softening) You think so? I got my hair cut today!

Explanation: It is not difficult to digress a line of questioning, so beware of these attempts.

Exception: At times, a digression is a good way to take the pressure off of a highly emotional argument. A funny story, a joke, or anything used as a “break” could be a very good thing at times. As long as the issue is dealt with again.

Tip: Don’t avoid questions where you are afraid you won’t like the answers. Face them head on, and deal with the truth.

Variation: Distraction can be a form of avoiding the issue, but does not have to be just verbal. For example, being asked a question you can’t answer and pretending your phone rings, saying you need to use the restroom, faking a heart attack, etc.
who implied whites don;t face racism?

you've been avoiding that question.
 

see4

Well-Known Member
This thread fails to initiate discussion, nor does it provide sound logic from which to draw any sane conclusion. It's a thread created merely to insult people for whom the OP disagrees.

I will be providing only 1 star for this thread.
 

reddan1981

Well-Known Member
This thread fails to initiate discussion, nor does it provide sound logic from which to draw any sane conclusion. It's a thread created merely to insult people for whom the OP disagrees.

I will be providing only 1 star for this thread.
amongst the world of socks and sycophants, I'm sure your reward system would sound appealing. Keep your stars for your alter ego's works.
 

Rob Roy

Well-Known Member
why do you support a black person being kicked out a restaurant because of the color of his/her skin
When did I ever say that I support that behavior? I've said that I wouldn't do that and frankly it makes me feel bad for anyone that has been discriminated against for something as silly as a racial characteristic.

I think you might have a problem, with comprehension. You could get help with that you know. Good luck.
 

londonfog

Well-Known Member
When did I ever say that I support that behavior? I've said that I wouldn't do that and frankly it makes me feel bad for anyone that has been discriminated against for something as silly as a racial characteristic.

I think you might have a problem, with comprehension. You could get help with that you know. Good luck.
your stance supports these actions. You feel if a person owns a business he should be allowed to pick and chose who he wishes to serve, even if the business is open to the public. You have said as such. Why would you support someone kicking out a paying customer due to the color of skin.
 
Top