Neo fascist ?

schuylaar said:

when have i used racist stuff?

private property is not public domain.

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I didn't say you had used racist stuff. I was sincerely thanking you for not going in that direction towards me as others have done.

If private property is not public domain, is a business that is privately owned private property ? Are the people that own a given business deprived of any property right when government decides how they will conduct their business?

Rob Roy said:

I didn't say you had used racist stuff. I was sincerely thanking you for not going in that direction towards me as others have done.

If private property is not public domain, is a business that is privately owned private property ? Are the people that own a given business deprived of any property right when government decides how they will conduct their business?

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1- yes
2-example, please? if your property is within public domain and not private, government can give you their list of rules, it's up to you how much you like being in society for there are repercussions when you don't follow the rules that have been set for all. to enjoy being part of society that is the trade off..you follow rules that have been set by governing body with representation.

society is optional..people can live off the grid if they so choose.

schuylaar said:

1- yes
2-example, please? if your property is within public domain and not private, government can give you their list of rules, it's up to you how much you like being in society for there are repercussions when you don't follow the rules that have been set for all. to enjoy being part of society that is the trade off..you follow rules that have been set by governing body with representation.

society is optional..people can live off the grid if they so choose.

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Rules that are set for all, to be valid, should not change the nature of what ownership is though or force a person to use their body in ways they prefer not to, especially if they remain on their own property. Otherwise those rules bear a striking resemblance to prohibitionists kinds of rules.

Shouldn't the first rule of any society be that none of us have the right to determine how others will use their own body and their own property ? Isn't controlling others property and body without their consent a form a theft and captivity?

Living off the grid doesn't exempt a person from the impositions of government, they still exist.

Rob Roy said:

Rules that are set for all, to be valid, should not change the nature of what ownership is though or force a person to use their body in ways they prefer not to, especially if they remain on their own property. Otherwise those rules bear a striking resemblance to prohibitionists kinds of rules.

Shouldn't the first rule of any society be that none of us have the right to determine how others will use their own body and their own property ? Isn't controlling others property and body without their consent a form a theft and captivity?

Living off the grid doesn't exempt a person from the impositions of government, they still exist.

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because the majority of us like society and what it offers. therefore, we are willing to follow the set rule in order to have infrastructure where we reside.<shrug> move to alaska..our bodies are not part of this conversation or thread.

schuylaar said:

because the majority of us like society and what it offers. therefore, we are willing to follow the set rule in order to have infrastructure where we reside.<shrug> move to alaska..our bodies are not part of this conversation or thread.

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Actually the majority have no say in what the rules will be. I could go into this and prove it. I don't feel like it right now though.

Also, even if a majority had set rules, isn't possible that those rules could simply be wrong? Wasn't slavery (controlling another person) wrong even when it was legal?

What if the all people could follow their own path and not obstruct others from doing the same? Wouldn't that be a good place to start?

Also infrastructure can exist absent coercive rules and forced redistribution.

Rob Roy said:

Actually the majority have no say in what the rules will be. I could go into this and prove it. I don't feel like it right now though.

Also, even if a majority had set rules, isn't possible that those rules could simply be wrong? Wasn't slavery (controlling another person) wrong even when it was legal?

What if the all people could follow their own path and not obstruct others from doing the same? Wouldn't that be a good place to start?

Also infrastructure can exist absent coercive rules and forced redistribution.

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i never said you have total say..you have representation to the governing body..when you become a business owner, signing all the paperwork for the start up..it's YOU who agree to the rules already set by that governing body..not the other way around..when you feign 'i didn't know i had to do that' part of your contract of business startup is that YOU agree to familiarize yourself with commerce rules and regs..

i like the rule that someone just can't walk into my home, take my things, there would be a penalty/consequences to that person if caught.

schuylaar said:

i never said you have total say..you have representation to the governing body..when you become a business owner, signing all the paperwork for the start up..it's YOU who agree to the rules already set by that governing body..not the other way around..when you feign 'i didn't know i had to do that' part of your contract of business startup is that YOU agree to familiarize yourself with commerce rules and regs..

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How can someone represent you if you never agreed to their representation in the first place? Aren't they then representing something else?

How does a governing body derive the ability to govern if a majority of the people involved never agreed to be enveloped by it in the first place?

Where do they get the power to do this?

schuylaar said:

i like the rule that someone just can't walk into my home, take my things, there would be a penalty/consequences to that person if caught.

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That's a good rule. I like the rule that government isn't exempt from that rule.

schuylaar said:

society must exist because of the human condition. there has to be rules or it would be anarchy. none of the rules the government has set disturb me with the exception of the irs tax code which clearly benefits the 'haves'.

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I'm for laws that protect me from you, it's laws that protect me from me that I have a problem with. My go to on a pot forum is pot, but the fact that the US, Iran and North Korea are the places that have outlawed online poker is pretty telling of where we stand now on the freedoms list.

ginwilly said:

I'm for laws that protect me from you, it's laws that protect me from me that I have a problem with. My go to on a pot forum is pot, but the fact that the US, Iran and North Korea are the places that have outlawed online poker is pretty telling of where we stand now on the freedoms list.

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I just want to spend me money on pokerstars !!!!

OGEvilgenius said:

The National Socialists were Socialists until they weren't. Communism and capitalism are mutually exclusive concepts. Because inevitably you give the power of government to control and when that power exists it's no longer capitalist in any fashion. Everything becomes distorted. Then that power corrupts, every time in history I should add. There are no exceptions to this. Not a single one.

Anyway, I'm pretty curious as to what the OPs views are on things to get labeled a Neo Fascist.

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Well ask away .

Rob Roy said:

If a person is forcibly made to pay for something they don't want and don't use and their house serves as an automatic ransom with or without their consent, you don't see THAT gun?

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Translation: "I bought a house, and chose not to pay the property tax, now the IRS is on my ass and have sent the Constable to my house to foreclose it, and I'm crying like a little girl about it".

Do I have that about right?

To answer the translated text. Yes, I see the gun, and yes I think the IRS, government and the Constable are all well within their rights to come on your property and take it back from you. You signed the dotted line of a promissory note stating you would pay back the loan including property taxes and liens and anything else that is fiscally attached to that house.

Now if this is not the case, and you are doing something illegal then again, the government and the police are all well within their rights to come on your property and take your sorry ass to jail, like they did with FDD and his now gaping jail fucked butthole.

But if what you are saying is that you pay all your debts and you have done nothing wrong in the eyes of the law, then I think it is outrageous that someone comes on your property and forces you to do anything. And this is your own private property, your primary residence.
If this is happening Rob, you seriously need to arm yourself and shoot those who come on your private primary residence without your authority, but you must be ready for the consequences of your actions.

Good. I'm glad we've settled all this mess. I was beginning to think you aren't really looking for answers nor are you trying to convince anyone of anything.

THCbreeder said:

I just want to spend me money on pokerstars !!!!

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I really miss party poker, that was like finding money on the floor playing there.

Between Full tilt, Doyles Room, pokerstars and Netteller, I've had over 10K "confiscated" from me. Full tilt was the major rape, they went bankrupt and never paid me off. Poker stars sent me 300 of 500 they owed, not as painful.

I've got a few friends that moved to Canada so they could continue playing (I did it as a hobby, they do it as a living). Winnings are not taxed by the Canadian gov, but since they are US citizens, they are taxed here on money they make up there.

ginwilly said:

I really miss party poker, that was like finding money on the floor playing there.

Between Full tilt, Doyles Room, pokerstars and Netteller, I've had over 10K "confiscated" from me. Full tilt was the major rape, they went bankrupt and never paid me off. Poker stars sent me 300 of 500 they owed, not as painful.

I've got a few friends that moved to Canada so they could continue playing (I did it as a hobby, they do it as a living). Winnings are not taxed by the Canadian gov, but since they are US citizens, they are taxed here on money they make up there.

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I had like 40$ taken . I loved playing the little 1$ turbo tournaments haha . Man those days were good

THCbreeder said:

I had like 40$ taken . I loved playing the little 1$ turbo tournaments haha . Man those days were good

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I was addicted to the big sunday tourneys, but the most fun I had was the 10cent turbos. A bunch of us would yahoo chat (damn that was long time ago) and laugh the entire time. Our rules for that tournament was all in or fold and you MUST go all in if your cards reach (2-6, 7-j, not 2-8 or 7-q) they were suited or you had a pair. The people who took those seriously would get so mad when someone would push all in with 3-7 and suck out against AA. There was usually about 8 to 10 of us.

It's odd that a game of skill like poker is deemed illegal but lotteries that pay out 50cents on the dollar based on pure luck is fine and dandy.

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Translation: "I bought a house, and chose not to pay the property tax, now the IRS is on my ass and have sent the Constable to my house to foreclose it, and I'm crying like a little girl about it".

Do I have that about right?

To answer the translated text. Yes, I see the gun, and yes I think the IRS, government and the Constable are all well within their rights to come on your property and take it back from you. You signed the dotted line of a promissory note stating you would pay back the loan including property taxes and liens and anything else that is fiscally attached to that house.

Now if this is not the case, and you are doing something illegal then again, the government and the police are all well within their rights to come on your property and take your sorry ass to jail, like they did with FDD and his now gaping jail fucked butthole.

But if what you are saying is that you pay all your debts and you have done nothing wrong in the eyes of the law, then I think it is outrageous that someone comes on your property and forces you to do anything. And this is your own private property, your primary residence.
If this is happening Rob, you seriously need to arm yourself and shoot those who come on your private primary residence without your authority, but you must be ready for the consequences of your actions.

Good. I'm glad we've settled all this mess. I was beginning to think you aren't really looking for answers nor are you trying to convince anyone of anything.

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I don't need a gun girly man. I'm jacked and work out daily.

Rob Roy said:

I don't need a gun girly man. I'm jacked and work out daily.

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You can't answer my questions. You refuse to answer them, because by doing so, you admit to your circular inane logic and you admit that it completely falls apart no matter how you look at it.

see4 said:

You can't answer my questions. You refuse to answer them, because by doing so, you admit to your circular inane logic and you admit that it completely falls apart no matter how you look at it.

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I think you might be obsessed with me now.


It's okay little buddy, everyone needs someone to look up to..

Rob Roy said:

I think you might be obsessed with me now.


It's okay little buddy, everyone needs someone to look up to..

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Translation: "I bought a house, and chose not to pay the property tax, now the IRS is on my ass and have sent the Constable to my house to foreclose it, and I'm crying like a little girl about it".

Do I have that about right?

To answer the translated text. Yes, I see the gun, and yes I think the IRS, government and the Constable are all well within their rights to come on your property and take it back from you. You signed the dotted line of a promissory note stating you would pay back the loan including property taxes and liens and anything else that is fiscally attached to that house.

Now if this is not the case, and you are doing something illegal then again, the government and the police are all well within their rights to come on your property and take your sorry ass to jail, like they did with FDD and his now gaping jail fucked butthole.

But if what you are saying is that you pay all your debts and you have done nothing wrong in the eyes of the law, then I think it is outrageous that someone comes on your property and forces you to do anything. And this is your own private property, your primary residence.
If this is happening Rob, you seriously need to arm yourself and shoot those who come on your private primary residence without your authority, but you must be ready for the consequences of your actions.

Good. I'm glad we've settled all this mess. I was beginning to think you aren't really looking for answers nor are you trying to convince anyone of anything.




Why can't you answer my questions? Why can't you explain your inane circular bull shit?

Because you have lost. That is why.