Lets Discuss the Real Ratings

TBoneJack

TBoneJack

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ttystikk said:
CLASSIC right wing bias; CNN is as centrist a news organization as there is in America. MSNBC is left, but at least they concentrate on facts. To the average Fox News junkie, BBC has a liberal media bias, too.

What about al Jazeera? Is that left leaning? It's insurgent, but unfortunately the right wing has equated any story that tells the story of how the average American is disenfranchised by monied interests as 'liberal'. They've hijacked the term to the point of cliche, and irrelevance.

Again, I don't understand why anyone in this country who makes most of their earnings from wages would vote republican- except for reasons of economic and political ignorance... which describes the average Fox News junkie rather well.

The internet is no paragon of accurate news either, but at least you have choice and opposing viewpoints and the reader can make up their own mind. American media on both sides is dumbed down to the point where they all treat the viewer like an idiot.
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Well, sir, if it was CLASSIC right-wing bias, would I be deeming Fox as too far right?

A true centrist (like myself) is attacked by both the left and right. But I can take it. :)

When my son comes home from college, he turns on Fox News, and so I have to watch it then. It sux. Way too far right for me.

I felt the same about CNN (in the opposite direction) years ago when I watched it.

Although I HATE to agree with @UncleBuck, he's right when he says that National Public Radio is a good source of news. I listen to it a couple times per week.

But I mostly read my news on the internet, cause I hate live TV. Too many damned commercials.
 
Padawanbater2

Padawanbater2

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spandy said:
I have no idea, I don't watch any of them regularly.

I've heard fox has the most cameras/reporters in the field. Don't know if this is true, though.
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You have no idea, so what is your opinion?

If you were to rank each media outlet by best to worst, how would you rank them? MSNBC, CNN, FOX
 
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spandy

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Padawanbater2 said:
You have no idea, so what is your opinion?

If you were to rank each media outlet by best to worst, how would you rank them? MSNBC, CNN, FOX
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Well, I opened up 3 browser windows, and gave each a 10 second eval.

CNN called Obama a Lame Duck. 1st Place

MSNBC had some dumb pop up I had to close, and took the longest to load, so fuck them 3rd place

Fox by default gets 2nd place.
 
Padawanbater2

Padawanbater2

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spandy said:
Well, I opened up 3 browser windows, and gave each a 10 second eval.

CNN called Obama a Lame Duck. 1st Place

MSNBC had some dumb pop up I had to close, and took the longest to load, so fuck them 3rd place

Fox by default gets 2nd place.
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So to clarify your opinion is that CNN is the best, FOX is the second best, and of the three, MSNBC is the worst, and you base this on 10 seconds of viewing each website?
 
MuyLocoNC

MuyLocoNC

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Padawanbater2 said:
THP @ 4, NYT @ 5 and Reddit @ 1..

Not to mention the rest of the list..

So do you concede my point that the internet is predominantly liberal/progressive?
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I would stipulate that the HuffPo and NYT have more sites like Yahoo linking to their content. It definitely seems to be a case of sites with an obvious bias sending traffic to sites that share the same views as their content editors. Every third crap story on Yahoo News sends you to the HuffPo. How many tens (hundred?) of million(s) of unsuspecting surfers are redirected to a HuffPo article because they click on a sensational headline?

How many of those victims (I'm among them) would never willingly go to the HuffPo without that back door link. The unique visitor count may be accurate, but it certainly doesn't reflect the political leanings of their visitors. Sorry.
 
ginwilly

ginwilly

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MuyLocoNC said:
I would stipulate that the HuffPo and NYT have more sites like Yahoo linking to their content. It definitely seems to be a case of sites with an obvious bias sending traffic to sites that share the same views as their content editors. Every third crap story on Yahoo News sends you to the HuffPo. How many tens (hundred?) of million(s) of unsuspecting surfers are redirected to a HuffPo article because they click on a sensational headline?

How many of those victims (I'm among them) would never willingly go to the HuffPo without that back door link. The unique visitor count may be accurate, but it certainly doesn't reflect the political leanings of their visitors. Sorry.
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I use google and yahoo news and just click on links to stories that interest me. I thought the stories were put up because of popularity, not based on the website. I admit it's just the way I thought it was, not based on anything other than top hits is how everything is run on their search engines.

I know those top hits are manipulated though, so I'll give your statement the benefit of the doubt. It's just not how I thought it went down.
 
UncleBuck

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MuyLocoNC said:
I would stipulate that the HuffPo and NYT have more sites like Yahoo linking to their content. It definitely seems to be a case of sites with an obvious bias sending traffic to sites that share the same views as their content editors. Every third crap story on Yahoo News sends you to the HuffPo. How many tens (hundred?) of million(s) of unsuspecting surfers are redirected to a HuffPo article because they click on a sensational headline?

How many of those victims (I'm among them) would never willingly go to the HuffPo without that back door link. The unique visitor count may be accurate, but it certainly doesn't reflect the political leanings of their visitors. Sorry.
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so you've gone from being completely wrong to trying to justify your own wrongness and stupidity now.

classic muyloco.
 
UncleBuck

UncleBuck

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ginwilly said:
I use google and yahoo news and just click on links to stories that interest me. I thought the stories were put up because of popularity, not based on the website. I admit it's just the way I thought it was, not based on anything other than top hits is how everything is run on their search engines.

I know those top hits are manipulated though, so I'll give your statement the benefit of the doubt. It's just not how I thought it went down.
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you can put down the pom poms, princess. muyloco is a big girl, she can fight her own fights.

you don't need to come to the aid of every idiotic, demonstrably wrong, racist right winger. if you tried to do that, you'd run out of time to pop your pills and down your booze.
 
ttystikk

ttystikk

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TBoneJack said:
Well, sir, if it was CLASSIC right-wing bias, would I be deeming Fox as too far right?

A true centrist (like myself) is attacked by both the left and right. But I can take it. :)

When my son comes home from college, he turns on Fox News, and so I have to watch it then. It sux. Way too far right for me.

I felt the same about CNN (in the opposite direction) years ago when I watched it.

Although I HATE to agree with @UncleBuck, he's right when he says that National Public Radio is a good source of news. I listen to it a couple times per week.

But I mostly read my news on the internet, cause I hate live TV. Too many damned commercials.
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Agreed about the commercials. I find NPR to be a bit liberal/progressive, but at least they have their facts straight. BBC is a good source of news, but for really interesting and insurgent opinion, would you believe... Al Jazeera?!

The internet has its news scattered all over the place, and many outlets are corporate owned and carefully sanitized of anything resembling progressive or people oriented news, filling that hole with infotainment instead. Mindless drivel is everywhere...
 
MuyLocoNC

MuyLocoNC

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A fun update on MSNBC:

While he was gone, MSNBC changed from traditional news to a political network with a liberal lens. Now that it is mired in a ratings slump, Lack's mandate as chairman will be figuring out if MSNBC needs a complete overhaul or a sharpening of its mission.

The current picture is seriously ugly. Through early March, Chris Hayes' viewership at 8 p.m. on weekdays was down 23 percent from last year, Rachel Maddow was off 24 percent and Lawrence O'Donnell down 26 percent. Among the 25-to-54-year-old demographic that is the basis for advertising sales, the prime-time lineup lost nearly half its audience. Daytime isn't much better.
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see4

see4

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MuyLocoNC said:
A fun update on MSNBC:
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http://www.alternet.org/media/science-fox-news-why-its-viewers-are-most-misinformed
http://www.forbes.com/sites/kenrapoza/2011/11/21/fox-news-viewers-uninformed-npr-listeners-not-poll-suggests/
http://mediamatters.org/blog/2011/11/22/seven-surveys-make-a-trend-for-fox-and-viewers/167217
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/11/21/fox-news-viewers-less-informed-people-fairleigh-dickinson_n_1106305.html
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/05/23/fox-news-less-informed-new-study_n_1538914.html
http://www.thenation.com/blog/167999/its-official-watching-fox-makes-you-stupider
http://www.newrepublic.com/article/118066/brookings-survey-fox-news-home-most-conservative-republicans
http://www.businessinsider.com/study-watching-fox-news-makes-you-less-informed-than-watching-no-news-at-all-2012-5
 
Padawanbater2

Padawanbater2

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MuyLocoNC said:
A fun update on MSNBC:
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Meanwhile, internet continues to crush cable network numbers and cable viewers continue to get older and older.

Say, ML, where do you suppose cable news will go once the 64+ aged viewers start dying off, ya know, because they don't have healthcare because they think Obama's a Muslim?

When was the last time print media like newspapers was relevant?

The shit you praise is on its way out you Fuckin dinosaur. Get used to it
 
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