Yet More Evidence the Feds are Creating a Fascist State

ttystikk

Well-Known Member
Yet another scandal from yet another explosive response to FOIA requests;

http://america.aljazeera.com/articles/2015/1/27/license-plates-spying.html

The very idea that Americans need a Freedom of Information Act to protect themselves from constant government abuse of our civil rights is an inverted system; why aren't Federal officials fired and INDICTED for the violation of citizen's rights?!

This latest example is a national database to be used as pretext to stop and search anyone who fits an invisible and unconstitutional profile; text follows.
 

ttystikk

Well-Known Member
DEA program capable of tracking movements of millions, ACLU says
License plates tracked by law enforcement agencies shared with DEA to create national database, documents show
January 27, 2015 7:45PM ET
by Renee Lewis
The United States Drug Enforcement Agency (DEA) has been quietly collecting data on millions of Americans since 2008 using license plate readers as part of the widening of a program originally aimed at locating drug traffickers, according to documents received by the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU).

The records show that the program, called the National License Plate Recognition Initiative, is capable of tracking the movements of everyday Americans all over the country, a press release by the ACLU said Monday. The documents, which also revealed a proliferation of license plate readers in the United States, did not reveal the budget for the program.

"The DEA's license plate reader programs raise serious civil liberties concerns, and the agency should be open about what it is doing so that those activities can be subject to public debate," an ACLU press release said Monday. "When programs are secret, we have no way of challenging them or ensuring they conform with our values and the law. Before accountability comes transparency."

The DEA referred Al Jazeera's request for comment to the Department of Justice, of which it is a part, but the DOJ had not responded at the time of publishing. A DOJ spokesman told the Wall Street Journal that the program complies with federal law.

“It is not new that the DEA uses the license-plate reader program to arrest criminals and stop the flow of drugs in areas of high trafficking intensity,’’ the spokesman said.

The ACLU received the documents in response to a Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) request to the DEA about the agency's National License Plate Recognition Initiative, which connects DEA license plate readers with those of other law enforcement agencies around the country.

The ACLU received one undated slide that showed there were more than 343 million records in the program's database at one point. The documents revealed that U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP), a unit of the Department of Homeland Security, collects data on "nearly 100 percent of land border traffic," — more than 793 million license plates between May 2009 and May 2013 — and shares its data with the DEA. In addition, local, state and federal law enforcement agencies shared information with the DEA for the program, according to documents.

The ACLU said the heavily redacted documents revealed that the DEA program allows data mining of license plate reader data "to identify travel patterns." The DEA said the program targets the roadways believed to be commonly used for transporting contraband, although it was unclear how that determination was made.

"Is the DEA running all of our license plate reads through a program to predict our likelihood of committing a crime? Are we all suspects if we drive on a certain road? What else does the DEA think it knows about us just from the collection and analysis of our locations via license plate reader data?" asked the ACLU press release.

The documents also suggest that the DEA retains license plate information for six months for "non-hit" data, or records that are not matched to any crime. Under its original policy, the DEA retained that data for a longer period of time, the release added.

"While this is an improvement from previous statements of DEA retention policy, it is still far too long," the ACLU release said. "The government should not collect or retain information revealing the movements of millions of people accused of no crime."

The information disclosed so far by the DEA leaves many questions unanswered, the ACLU said, including how many license plate readers the program can access. In a sign that the program was set to widen further, documents showed a "significant investment" by the federal government into automatic license plate readers and "unregulated and largely unseen location tracking programs."

The DEA itself has deployed 100 license plate readersthat the ACLU knows of, but that doesn't include the much larger number of local, state and federal law enforcement agencies' readers or the CBP readers — which share information with the DEA. It is unclear if private corporations that deploy such readers share information with the DEA, the ACLU said. The exact number of license plate readers the DEA has access to through the program remains unknown.

It is also unclear which policies govern the use of license plate readers or the use of the license plate reader database, the ACLU added. More documents will be released "documenting the federal government’s significant investment in automatic license plate readers and its unregulated and largely unseen location tracking programs" in coming weeks, according to the ACLU release.
 

heckler73

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Isn't it grand to watch how the infrastructure is being setup, regardless of moral intent, for some wannabe dictator to come along and abuse it completely? All this while knowing one can't do anything to really stop it just makes it sting a little more.
The road to hell is paved with good intentions.
"Checks and Balances" :lol: riiiiiiiiight ;)
 

Wavels

Well-Known Member
Isn't it grand to watch how the infrastructure is being setup, regardless of moral intent, for some wannabe dictator to come along and abuse it completely? All this while knowing one can't do anything to really stop it just makes it sting a little more.
The road to hell is paved with good intentions.
"Checks and Balances" :lol: riiiiiiiiight ;)

The road to hell is leading to a slippery slope which is being further lubricated with great abandon.
This game could be over dude!
 

NoDrama

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LOL everyone knows that if you are going to transport large amounts of drugs, you use a rental vehicle to do it with. You don't shit in your car ( sorry Bucky). Does the DEA really think the big time smugglers are that stupid?
 

UncleBuck

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LOL everyone knows that if you are going to transport large amounts of drugs, you use a rental vehicle to do it with. You don't shit in your car ( sorry Bucky). Does the DEA really think the big time smugglers are that stupid?
the obsession continues.
 

ttystikk

Well-Known Member
Isn't it grand to watch how the infrastructure is being setup, regardless of moral intent, for some wannabe dictator to come along and abuse it completely? All this while knowing one can't do anything to really stop it just makes it sting a little more.
The road to hell is paved with good intentions.
"Checks and Balances" :lol: riiiiiiiiight ;)
This is a call to action for true Citizens- that is, those of us who understand that the never-ending fight for freedom may BEGIN at the ballot box, but certainly doesn't end there.
 

ttystikk

Well-Known Member
I'm all for action by citizens, but, what action do you suggest?
First, what I'm doing right now- educating my fellow citizens as to the scope of the problem.

Second, a letter writing campaign to our representatives.

Third, an alternative agenda, to include planks addressing taxation inequality, how funds are used, corporate taxation, corporate personhood and civil rights affirmation issues.

Repeal RICO because it's unconstitutional, and the Patriot Act because it's fascist.

Repeal the unlimited amount of dollars going into the political system in favor of a tiny amount accessible to nearly any citizen.

The list is long, but it points to taking the country back from the lobbyists, the back room dealers, the old boy networks and just plain corrupt.

Limit the ability of the Federal gov't to run roughshod over citizen's civil rights as set down in The Bill of Rights.

We need REAL democracy. This country is so far too the right that the only place left to go further is into dictatorship. And yes, I am worried about that.
 

budlover13

King Tut
First, what I'm doing right now- educating my fellow citizens as to the scope of the problem.

Second, a letter writing campaign to our representatives.

Third, an alternative agenda, to include planks addressing taxation inequality, how funds are used, corporate taxation, corporate personhood and civil rights affirmation issues.

Repeal RICO because it's unconstitutional, and the Patriot Act because it's fascist.

Repeal the unlimited amount of dollars going into the political system in favor of a tiny amount accessible to nearly any citizen.

The list is long, but it points to taking the country back from the lobbyists, the back room dealers, the old boy networks and just plain corrupt.

Limit the ability of the Federal gov't to run roughshod over citizen's civil rights as set down in The Bill of Rights.

We need REAL democracy. This country is so far too the right that the only place left to go further is into dictatorship. And yes, I am worried about that.
GodDAMN you had me until you advocaed a true democracy!
 

UncleBuck

Well-Known Member
Are you suggesting that MLK would advocate looting?
you said you don't understand looting. i said if you listened to MLK, instead of racists like rawn pawl, you might get a better idea.

where in the hell did you get "MLK advocates looting" from that?
 

budlover13

King Tut
you said you don't understand looting. i said if you listened to MLK, instead of racists like rawn pawl, you might get a better idea.

where in the hell did you get "MLK advocates looting" from that?
I've listened to MLK and understand what he was standing for. Still gives me no insight as to why someone would destroy their own neighborhood.

I mean really. The smallest and most locally owned businesses are often the only ones willing to extend credit to the neighborhood.

Nothing MLK said can make me understand why people would destroy their own neighborhood.
 
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