giving defoliation during flower a try

BROBIE

BROBIE

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Trichs on leaves means
skunkd0c said:
yeh i see quite thin leaves on it, but the bud structure does not look very sativa like, looks kind of kush/skunk hybrid
i like the big calyx though :)

as you can see below i do not remove leaves from indicas it fucks them up more often than not in my experience
these were leafy as hell, i prefer growing sativas



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No offense but that looks like N toxicity a bit IMO. Did you slam them too hard with cal/mag? Seems very very green almost waxy with some collapsed leaves. Just IMO
 
skunkd0c

skunkd0c

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BROBIE said:
Trichs on leaves means


No offense but that looks like N toxicity a bit IMO. Did you slam them too hard with cal/mag? Seems very very green almost waxy with some collapsed leaves. Just IMO
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from what i remember they received the same EC as all my plants do
i like them to be deep dark green this strain was darker than most, all of the FAK plants grew lots of distorted twisted leaves it was ugly from the start imo
most of my plants stay green and shiny until harvest, i am not a fan of plants full of yellow dropping leaves at the end

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AlphaPhase

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Hey, anyone from cali that vends without flushing and what do you say if they ask if the plants were flushed :confused: I don't like to flush at all but I've come across people that don't want anything that isn't flushed (I know, it's dumb) and I don't like to lie so I figured at least the people that don't flush don't give a crap if it is or isn't flushed, and if I flush a little bit for a few days (after the plants are already done anyway, it'll also clear my hydro system out) it'll keep both groups of people happy:confused:
 
AlphaPhase

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Damn those are looking great skunkd0c, those leaves are FAT holy shit! (especially the one to the far right, wow that's a plump one!) Good vibes on getting fems man, I haven't had any naners with my karma gear so far so good, I did find one old dried up naner on my purple paralysis but I think it was one of those false pods or something, haven't seen any seeds or pollen anywhere luckily. Is the biker kush the v2 ? I'm finding that karmas gear is so damn frosty it's pretty insane, I have a headbanger I want to grow out this summer outdoors but I only have 2 beans of it (hoping one fem)
 
skunkd0c

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AlphaPhase said:
Damn those are looking great skunkd0c, those leaves are FAT holy shit! (especially the one to the far right, wow that's a plump one!) Good vibes on getting fems man, I haven't had any naners with my karma gear so far so good, I did find one old dried up naner on my purple paralysis but I think it was one of those false pods or something, haven't seen any seeds or pollen anywhere luckily. Is the biker kush the v2 ? I'm finding that karmas gear is so damn frosty it's pretty insane, I have a headbanger I want to grow out this summer outdoors but I only have 2 beans of it (hoping one fem)
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thanks mate
its biker kush v1 , the biker kush are the 2 plants with the fat center leaf blades , those center blades are 3 inch wide
i have noticed his strains do pack on the resin, the jack o nesia looks great from all the pics i have seen very frosty for a haze/sativa
got to give that one a run at some point

peace
 
Sativied

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skunkd0c said:
i am not a fan of plants full of yellow dropping leaves at the end
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Me neither, I do prefer to end a little lighter green than what I get with H&G AB alone, that's why I use GHE part B/Flower (to replace part A+B), essentially lowers N a little during flowering. The fading can result in pretty colors though:

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That's deficiencies + cold (it's on the two plants in the coldest corners).
 
AlphaPhase

AlphaPhase

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Yeah I really like the cool colors that come out during nute lockouts, it reminds me of back east in the fall time of year. I just hate doing it, my plants have some purple/red/yellow going on on the top leaves but not much fade on the bottom leaves, I'm thinking there's still a bit of nitrogen in their reserves to be ok til the weekend. I'm already itching to harvest and start some more. Going to do a full tent of the purple paraylsis next to see what it can really do, I know it'll be easy to get 1000 grams but I'm hoping for a slam dunk home run and maybe get 1100 grams or so :) we will see
 
Uncle Ben

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skunkd0c said:
yeh i see quite thin leaves on it, but the bud structure does not look very sativa like, looks kind of kush/skunk hybrid
i like the big calyx though :)

as you can see below i do not remove leaves from indicas it fucks them up more often than not in my experience
these were leafy as hell, i prefer growing sativas






peace
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Those are some really nice, green healthy plants, considering the flowering phase. What plant food have they recently been getting, NPK values, how much and how often?
 
Uncle Ben

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AlphaPhase said:
Hey, anyone from cali that vends without flushing and what do you say if they ask if the plants were flushed :confused: I don't like to flush at all but I've come across people that don't want anything that isn't flushed (I know, it's dumb) and I don't like to lie so I figured at least the people that don't flush don't give a crap if it is or isn't flushed, and if I flush a little bit for a few days (after the plants are already done anyway, it'll also clear my hydro system out) it'll keep both groups of people happy:confused:
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If they're that brainwashed, tell them what they want to hear.
 
chuck estevez

chuck estevez

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AlphaPhase said:
Hey, anyone from cali that vends without flushing and what do you say if they ask if the plants were flushed :confused: I don't like to flush at all but I've come across people that don't want anything that isn't flushed (I know, it's dumb) and I don't like to lie so I figured at least the people that don't flush don't give a crap if it is or isn't flushed, and if I flush a little bit for a few days (after the plants are already done anyway, it'll also clear my hydro system out) it'll keep both groups of people happy:confused:
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When people take a hit off my bud and go "damn, that's good, did you flush? I just laugh. When it goes on a shelf at a dispensary, it is usually the first to go.
 
skunkd0c

skunkd0c

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Uncle Ben said:
Those are some really nice, green healthy plants, considering the flowering phase. What plant food have they recently been getting, NPK values, how much and how often?
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Thanks, those plants (fire alien kush) were more dark green than all my others, weather that is genetics or perhaps they had slightly lower nute requirements than the rest of my plants
at this stage they would of been on an EC of between 1.8 and 2.0 using vitalink max NPK = 5 4.6 9.6 i guess we could round that off to roughly 5 5 10 this is classed as their flowering stage nutes
the vegetative stage nutes are NPK 5.1 7.8 2.8 again i would round that off roughly to 5 8 3 i tend to use both foods for both stages as i see little difference between them
often i mainly use their flowering nutes throughout the whole grow, i will add a small amount of veg nutes during the fastest growing phases
the results i get are pretty much the same as using canna nutes, i tend to use vitalink as its a bit cheaper

i would allow the solution to drop to EC 1.5 then i would bring it back up to 2.0
the amount of nute additions will fluctuate a fair bit, sometimes i will not need to add nutes for over 1 week
during the fastest growing phases i may top up the nutes 2 times per week to keep it at ec 2.0

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