The Dons' Organic Garden

DonTesla

DonTesla

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DonPetro said:
Well these bars i'm planning will just use cobs, no red or blue diodes. That will keep cost and labour down. They will be solder free and should only take a few hours to build. Being passively cooled and with the cobs running in series each bar will have only one plug. I think my original concept with the semi-passive 660nm wings should take a back seat for awhile so we can set you up. Its almost too simple not to. Besides you have all those light thirsty ladies there. I got some herbs. Any amount of light you add is going to be a benefit. That china light has done well. I think getting some cobs in there early and seeing what they can do will make it an easy transition for when it does go. Three bars would likely replace it and then some in terms of luminous flux but in terms of PAR should blow it away. DIY builds are taking over as they maximize efficiency and are highly customizable.
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kudos, brotha, kudos.. time is ticking indeed. Thankfully this panel's still here.

And running such high quality lights so softly, amazing how they can last a decade without suffering HPS-type losses. Cost is really divided if you use them to their decade+ potential. Do you think its worth going with Cree over the Vero?

And yea the simpler the design the better with long term flexibility.. 3 foot bars should be good for almost anywhere. If the red and blue diodes can each go on their own sinks after, that'd work. Individual timers and separate sinks is probably easier to control on the lights than having everything on giant sinks, with dimmers, hey.

Only thing is, if this is a 10 year commitment, i would prefer to begin with the end in mind..kind of want to foresee the final design before pulling triggaz on any purchases.

I want to run like 800w DIY ideally, or 2000w HPS (air-cooled) equivalent, I see buddy online here replaced 2 x 600w hps with one 500w DIY. That's what I'm talking about. I think that's whats needed so we don't run out of medicine, I'm gonna be out in like 45-50 days!! lol
 
DonTesla

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plus i want a good amount of coco oil, which i will use medicinally as well as in the tea's.

i may need to dig up a couple 250 watters to get us thru this round worse case, but these DIY are the bees knees, no doubt brotha
 
DonPetro

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DonTesla said:
kudos, brotha, kudos.. time is ticking indeed. Thankfully this panel's still here.

And running such high quality lights so softly, amazing how they can last a decade without suffering HPS-type losses. Cost is really divided if you use them to their decade+ potential. Do you think its worth going with Cree over the Vero?

And yea the simpler the design the better with long term flexibility.. 3 foot bars should be good for almost anywhere. If the red and blue diodes can each go on their own sinks after, that'd work. Individual timers and separate sinks is probably easier to control on the lights than having everything on giant sinks, with dimmers, hey.

Only thing is, if this is a 10 year commitment, i would prefer to begin with the end in mind..kind of want to foresee the final design before pulling triggaz on any purchases.

I want to run like 800w DIY ideally, or 2000w HPS (air-cooled) equivalent, I see buddy online here replaced 2 x 600w hps with one 500w DIY. That's what I'm talking about. I think that's whats needed so we don't run out of medicine, I'm gonna be out in like 45-50 days!! lol
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Thats 45-50 days longer than me! I may have to build myself one so you can see the design. May take a few months though.
 
DonTesla

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in regards to clones, bro, how good or bad is having some mycelium looking fibres cling to the tips of the submerged end? Its the start of roots? Or the death of them? lol
 
DonPetro

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DonTesla said:
in regards to clones, bro, how good or bad is having some mycelium looking fibres cling to the tips of the submerged end? Its the start of roots? Or the death of them? lol
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Not sure bro. Not done too much cloning. Try rinsing off, change water and increase dissolved oxygen levels.
 
DonPetro

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DonTesla said:
Do you think its worth going with Cree over Vero (edit: Bridgelux)?
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Simply put, no. A few reasons:
1. Entry level cost (cree cxa's are over $100 each if you can find them. A Vero 10 is $5, Vero 18 is $14, etc.)
2. Availability (see above)
3. Better thermal packaging
4. On board solderless connection
5. Better range of drive options

Seeing lots of good things from the Vero series. Can't deny the performance. These are nothing like the diodes used in the china panels. These are quality emitters.

http://www.digikey.com/product-highlights/en/vero-series/51566
 
DonTesla

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DonPetro said:
Simply put, no. A few reasons:
1. Entry level cost (cree cxa's are over $100 each if you can find them. A Vero 10 is $5, Vero 18 is $14, etc.)
2. Availability (see above)
3. Better thermal packaging
4. On board solderless connection
5. Better range of drive options

Seeing lots of good things from the Vero series. Can't deny the performance. These are nothing like the diodes used in the china panels. These are quality emitters.

http://www.digikey.com/product-highlights/en/vero-series/51566
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Hard to argue with better availability, price, and the solder less feature, let alone other options !
Sometimes less is more.

Speaking of which.. Tried some All-organic, water-only cloning to see what would happen..

Just used thin thin blade. No aloe, coconut, or any other rooting compounds..

Fresh Ro water and a bubbler..Roots started today! Its about day 7image.jpg
 
DonPetro

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DonTesla said:
Hard to argue with better availability, price, and the solder less feature, let alone other options !
Sometimes less is more.

Speaking of which.. Tried some All-organic, water-only cloning to see what would happen..

Just used thin thin blade. No aloe, coconut, or any other rooting compounds..

Fresh Ro water and a bubbler..Roots started today! Its about day 7View attachment 3302065
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Nice! I need to get a light up...
 
DonPetro

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DonTesla said:
Hard to argue with better availability, price, and the solder less feature, let alone other options !
Sometimes less is more.

Speaking of which.. Tried some All-organic, water-only cloning to see what would happen..

Just used thin thin blade. No aloe, coconut, or any other rooting compounds..

Fresh Ro water and a bubbler..Roots started today! Its about day 7View attachment 3302065
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Im thinking about making some lamps for around the house too. Complete with shades. Man, i just wanna build lights!
 
DonTesla

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hahahaha i could just picture ur place packed with lights.. open a cupboard for a cup of coffee.. see some 5000K beams

Turn on a lamp in the living room, its a shaded COB. Sheeit.. all places should come standard with some COBs, imo. Forget the hide-a-bed, how bout the hide-a-mini-garden instead?
 
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DonPetro

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DonTesla said:
hahahaha i could just picture ur place packed with lights.. open a cupboard for a cup of coffee.. see some 5000K beams

Turn on a lamp in the living room, its a shaded COB. Sheeit.. all places should come standard with some COBs, imo. Forget the hide-a-bed, how bout the hide-a-mini-garden instead?
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Yea i got two matching lamps. One doesn't work so i thought i would salvage the shade at least and make a matching hanging lamp.
 
DonTesla

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DonPetro said:
Yea i got two matching lamps. One doesn't work so i thought i would salvage the shade at least and make a matching hanging lamp.
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I can hardly wait for new lights!!!!! Its gonna be an awesome year. Im staying inside til spring, lmao. Slick shit tho, Petro. Gonna be preem
 
DonPetro

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Yea thats a good sign of a healthy soil. My box has never been more alive. Had a big spider run out of it yesterday. Scared me, almost dropped the lid.
 
DonTesla

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DonPetro said:
Yea thats a good sign of a healthy soil. My box has never been more alive. Had a big spider run out of it yesterday. Scared me, almost dropped the lid.
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Hahhahaha, thats awesome bro.. we've had slugs, ladybugs, centipedes, beetles, and spiders pop out of nowhere so far.. still waiting for a sparrow to swoop thru one day, lol
 
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