Capt. Stickyfingers
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If you love to learn, research broad mites. I assure you a ph of 6.0 is NOT the culprit.
HEEELP!!!!! WTH is going on with my girls?
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Cold$moke
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I got a phobia learning about mites lol jk sure ill do that and you list off what causes yellowing to New growth and leaf curl and well.meet in the middle
Cold$moke
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K that was fast it looks like it does have leaf curls in the photos on google ( if the bugs caused them) but all the pics I saw have noticeable damage on most of the leaves his is concentrated on the new growth granted I I see were your coming from now but I would think you would see.some more damage one the whole plant thanks for the learning
Kush Knight
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I assumed they also overfed 2-3x without flushing in between (forgot to mention). When the water was probably at ~5-5.5pH with nutes and no organic soil adjusters.
It looks a little like n, p, ca, mag def and a few others combined to me....
But its impossible to properly diagnose deficiencies when pH is outside of acceptable ranges. And I've seen enough threads where they say what they THINK they are pHing to. If you actually ph anyways you tend to look up what to ph to.
6.0 is a common number hydro heads spit out, and if op is phing on a hydro heads advice, my apologies for assumptions.
If you pH properly and flush any actual deficiencies will show right through.
As for broad mites, i'm no expert so i can't say. But from my limited knowledge, there would also be extreme discoloration, which to my understanding makes them easily findable perpetrators.
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Squidbilly
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I too once thought I had braod mites...what a nightmare. I didn't have broad mites-they are almost impossible to find, btw they are super tiny- you need a 60-100x scope. Some people spend days trying to locate them, I spent weeks and found nothing. My problem was actually under feeding and under watering, I was in a new medium and had a slight learning curve.
Those plants look like they are fried by heat and low humidity, possibly even underwatered. My T5 panel gets pretty hot within 3-5" of the bulbs, and it they touch it burns the shit out of them.
If i forget to water and my humidity is low, a few of my og crosses will have leaves get greyish brown, crispy, and fall off. This is of course after some abuse, like going camping and not giving them water for a few days.
Those plants look like they are fried by heat and low humidity, possibly even underwatered. My T5 panel gets pretty hot within 3-5" of the bulbs, and it they touch it burns the shit out of them.
If i forget to water and my humidity is low, a few of my og crosses will have leaves get greyish brown, crispy, and fall off. This is of course after some abuse, like going camping and not giving them water for a few days.
Cold$moke
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kinda where I was at I thought to myself I figured nutes+hot soil=pissedoff locked up plants.
agreed on the bug things I think those fan leaves would have a little specles on them at the least if they are so bad as to kill the top of the plant like I said if im wrong I also apologize and want to be corrected thats why we are here
Ninjabowler
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Watch your mouth m8. Ive got way more than SOME wisdom
Where do you NOT see a hermie mate?
Some wisdom would be much appreciated.
Not guaranteed, but very stressed plant with messed up preflowers? looks like possibly stress induced flowering, while on a 24/7 cycle.... Yeah, again, looks very hermied to me, would hate to start with a hermie.
I still say grow it out.... till its more distinguishable. burns tend to really slow down and deform stuff.
Yes 4' 4 bulb t5ho sunleaves. And anyone will tell you NOT to let them toucha 23w cfl without a cover or airflow will burn them too.... All i do right now is leave a fan on low to med pointed diagonally up at it the light, through the plant. I always raise the light to be the same height from my canopy. As its lst'd (tie downs primarily) it grows evenly, meaning i only get at the extreme ~2.5 inches a day of stretch. While i was on 2 week vacation, i only lost 3 leaves on the plant because of touching the light.
if you see a banana some where i dont then point it out, or a pollen sack, or an early seed pod, or a dried out spent pollen sack. But i dont. Whoever mentioned broad mites, your right, they do look a lot like broad mites. But i didnt see the clawing leaves that they cause, well theres some that look totally like it and some that dont. To the op, you should be able to see if it is a broad mite situation with a magnifying glass under the leaves. Those things are really hard to get rid of if you do have them. Beneficial predator mites will do it though if it is what you have.
Squidbilly
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You can see SPIDER MITES with the naked eye if you know what to look for. BROAD mites are a completely different beast and DO NOT cause the same type of damage or tell tale signs, and they are hard to find even with a powerful scope. Google broad mites, and pray you never get them. Spider mites(if you don't live in a rec/med state that has bred super mites) are easy to get rid of, Broads require some serious chemical intervention and luck. You definitely don't have spider mites.
I'm really stumped, but like others have said I would start with a flush and go from there.
I'm really stumped, but like others have said I would start with a flush and go from there.
Cold$moke
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look at his plant in the background see how tall they are ? Dont think his HO t5 are gona burn em they are a lil stretchy if anything he doenst have proper intensity?
also I thought heat stress cause the fringes on the leaves to turn UP correct me if im wrong if my phone dies ill catch up tomorrow
also I thought heat stress cause the fringes on the leaves to turn UP correct me if im wrong if my phone dies ill catch up tomorrow
Squidbilly
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Heat stress, like a lot of things, manifests in a few different ways - and different strains react differently. With fluros, you usually just get burnt and twisted leaves where they actually touch the bulb. Under HID bulbs, you will get the traditional 'heat stress' curl a lot of the time and the leaves will bleach if the light is too close.
I agree with this^^^
Kush Knight
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Not sure about heat and rh, he said temps at 77. ive had low rh all year and it really just seems to slow growth about 65% (number outta my ass from this years experience alone with unknown genetics, and a candyland). Plus if its not his/her first grow, then why would growing into the light puzzle them?
Hemp mites (I assume not the same as broadmites) are on the microscopic level also. They are the size of a trich head, and amber in color.
Upon inspection, it took me a good 5 minutes of staring right at one to notice it. They are really bad in butte county CA this year. They attach themselves to the pistils hairs injecting a toxin (or auxin?) to kill the old growth (buds) and to stimulate new growth they can easily feed on. But even though they are microscopic, the affects are clear, albeit very puzzling to most growers. Heavy chemical intervention is the only known solution. Again, i am not putting any real weight on my opinion here. Just saying usually a bad infestation leaves its obvious marks.
Man, if only everyone was like thiskinda where I was at I thought to myself I figured nutes+hot soil=pissedoff locked up plants.
agreed on the bug things I think those fan leaves would have a little specles on them at the least if they are so bad as to kill the top of the plant like I said if im wrong I also apologize and want to be corrected thats why we are here
I meant no disrespect. You are right in that none of the in focus areas seem to bad. Im just going off my paranoia on this one really. Hate risking late in flower hermies. And dif strains can all be so different.... Anyways sorry my bad.Watch your mouth m8. Ive got way more than SOME wisdom
Whoever mentioned broad mites, your right, they do look a lot like broad mites. But i didnt see the clawing leaves that they cause, well theres some that look totally like it and some that dont. To the op, you should be able to see if it is a broad mite situation with a magnifying glass under the leaves. Those things are really hard to get rid of if you do have them. Beneficial predator mites will do it though if it is what you have.
Kush Knight
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and pH LOL
dopeweed
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Look at the rest of the plant, it looks ok...if it was nutrient lockout, not just the tips would suffer.
Soak your rootball, gradually....just add a bit of water at a time, until its saturated, then add a little more until you get a few drops out of the bottom, then measure this for PPM and pH.
If it was overfertilisation youd see the tips of the leaves going yellow...interesting one this! You foliar feeding?
-dopeweed
Soak your rootball, gradually....just add a bit of water at a time, until its saturated, then add a little more until you get a few drops out of the bottom, then measure this for PPM and pH.
If it was overfertilisation youd see the tips of the leaves going yellow...interesting one this! You foliar feeding?
-dopeweed
weedenhanced
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Ur gf has posioned them she hates u and is sleeping with ninjabowler