New Evidence in Michael Brown Case

ChesusRice said:

They are upset their scenario of what happened turned out false

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Comments like this obviously prove you're a white nationalist.

Mr.Head said:

Here's my view, regardless of what the kid did the cops in the wrong. Advancements in police weaponry has lead to a lack of proper training, I am sure the kid would have rather got beat down with a night stick, or subdued by physical force then shot. But that's the go to move for police now, instead of trying to use their training that they don't get anymore. Where's the tazer even?

It's shoot first ask questions later, what happened to police learning combat techniques akin to the military, a fully grown man should be able to take down a 16 year old child regardless of that childs size if that man is a trained fighter, as every police officer should be. There is no excuse for shooting a child, especially "he was big"(and black). This whole thing with fat ass overweight mental midget cops in America is 90% of the problem.

Any trained grown man who can't stand up to a child is a fucking pussy straight up and down.

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A 6'4 250# black man is not a child. We do not require police to put their lives at risk of physical combat and we never should.

Why do you put none of the responsibility on the perpetrator??

Who is 16?

NLXSK1 said:

A 6'4 250# black man is not a child. We do not require police to put their lives at risk of physical combat and we never should.

Why do you put none of the responsibility on the perpetrator??

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So a 6' 4'' 250lbs white/asian/Middle Eastern man is a child?

Why did you mention his race?

I'm first to defend against undue accusations of racism but you totally didn't need to mention he was a black man...

I think things that may be distinctly separate have been combined and sometimes people draw conclusions based on feelings rather than fact.


What is known...

Police often target black people for no reason other than they are black. I'm pretty sure most people agree that happens.

The second is a person (the guy that got shot) that likely strong arm robbed earlier in the day got shot by a cop, possibly in self defense.

People should be indignant about cops targeting people based on race. People should also be indignant when strong arm thugs rob people. It is possible the cop and the "thug" (person that was shot) were both assholes in their own special way.

If I were going to protest police brutality (a worthy cause), I might chose a more reputable martyr.

Harrekin said:

So a 6' 4'' 250lbs white/asian/Middle Eastern man is a child?

Why did you mention his race?

I'm first to defend against undue accusations of racism but you totally didn't need to mention he was a black man...

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Yeah, my argument is invalid cause I mentioned he was black... You are right, no matter what color his skin was he is not a child at that size. People keep trying to misrepresent the situation by calling him a child and he simply was not.

Rob Roy said:

I think things that may be distinctly separate have been combined and sometimes people draw conclusions based on feelings rather than fact.


What is known...

Police often target black people for no reason other than they are black. I'm pretty sure most people agree that happens.

The second is a person (the guy that got shot) that likely strong arm robbed earlier in the day got shot by a cop, possibly in self defense.

People should be indignant about cops targeting people based on race. People should also be indignant when strong arm thugs rob people. It is possible the cop and the "thug" (person that was shot) were both assholes in their own special way.

If I were going to protest police brutality (a worthy cause), I might chose a more reputable martyr.

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To add a minor point... The cop didnt have to go looking for trouble, it was walking down the middle of the street blocking traffic.

NLXSK1 said:

Yeah, my argument is invalid cause I mentioned he was black... You are right, no matter what color his skin was he is not a child at that size. People keep trying to misrepresent the situation by calling him a child and he simply was not.

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I never said it was invalid, I simply questioned the necessity of mentioning his race.

Americans on both sides of the aisle are as obsessed with race as each other.

NLXSK1 said:

A 6'4 250# black man is not a child. We do not require police to put their lives at risk of physical combat and we never should.

Why do you put none of the responsibility on the perpetrator??

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We don't know who the perpetrator is. Cops are not always innocent just as teenagers aren't. Being big does not mean you are an adult, it means you are big, the mind is still that of a 16 year old child and the officer that of a full grown adult. Kids make mistakes, they need to be taught lessons not shot to death, cops aren't supposed to make misstakes. They are supposed to be beacons in the community not hated figures due to racial discrimination and violence against youth.

The job description is putting your life in danger. It's their job if they don't want it don't sign up, contrary to popular belief the job does not entail shooting everyone that crosses you. Getting in a scuffle is part of the gig, shooting is/was supposed to be a last resort. Shooting someone unarmed multiple times should never be accepted I don't know how you can brush that off.

The kid most likely did something wrong, he was unarmed and gunned down, who gives a fuck how big he was or how much he weighed, he was still a kid. If it was your kid you would be singing a different tune.

This is a case of the big scary black man being evil plain and simple. Get over your racial bullshit and see it for what it is a minor getting gunned down in the street infront of many many witnesses while he was unarmed. He wasn't shot once he was shot multiple times, there was an obvious intent to kill this child. How is that not wrong? because he was big?

Why wasn't he shot once? or twice? people stop after being shot, it's called shock.

Lets not forget the kid had his fucking hands up according the majority of the witnesses, but that probably doesn't matter because the witnesses are black, and we all know how black folks can't be trusted...

Brown was not a "Kid" - he was an 18 year old man.
And a pretty large one at that.

Harrekin said:

Ok so I made an exception for you and watched your video and I must say, it's exactly what I've been saying about liberals (like Buck).

I'll finish this by saying "Keep Obama in President, he gave us a phone, he's gonna do more!"

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Comments about Obama Phone shows just how dumb most Repukes are. Obama did not start the free phone program...that my friend was started by Bush in 2008. It would help if you stayed better informed about who did what. Might help you from looking like a dumb ass, unless that is the look you are reaching for... then bravo

NLXSK1 said:

I dont think Michael Brown will ever be charged nor put on trial for the theft of the cigarillo's. If you watched the video it was pretty clear what he did however.

The system in that state is for the evidence to go to a grand jury to determine whether there will be a trial.

The cop had bruises on his face, the perpetrator's blood was inside the squad car on the door and the officers uniform from the struggle.

None of the eyewitnesses mention Michael Brown striking the officer yet the physical evidence is pretty compelling.

I have never seen a cop try to pull someone through the door of their squad car into the front seat. That just doesnt make sense. Someone trying to grab a cops gun would have to reach through the window though.

All of the forensic evidence that has been leaked points to the cops side of the story. I dont think the cop woke up that morning wanting to shoot anyone.

So, in my opinion, the grand jury will not indict the officer and this will never go to trial. And the black community will declare racism and prejudice and riot all over again because either they dont understand the system or they just dont care.

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You do realize it was an SUV not a car. They sit pretty high off the ground and very possible for some asshole cop to think he can reach and grab someone to him to show his power.

ChesusRice said:

Ferguson has a history of racist cops.
Whether this cop is one of them is irrelevant. He got attacked he responded accordingly

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so accordingly is to keep shooting at someone unarmed running away ????

londonfog said:

Comments about Obama Phone shows just how dumb most Repukes are. Obama did not start the free phone program...that my friend was started by Bush in 2008. It would help if you stayed better informed about who did what. Might help you from looking like a dumb ass, unless that is the look you are reaching for... then bravo

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I know it's a quote from the "Obamaphone" video.

Wash too much shit out of people's sheets today?

You seem mad.

You've also got it all confused, here Republicans are far left and social democrats are centre right.

How strange that must be to you people.

NLXSK1 said:

The autopsy showed that all the bullets entered Michael Brown from the front. There was only 1 questionable one which was in Michael Brown's arm could have been from the front or back. That could have happened in the car.

Really the only question is whether Michael Brown was surrendering and not moving or whether he was running toward the cop. Body positioning should answer that question pretty easily.

The only contrary evidence was from Michael Brown's friend who just helped him commit a strong arm robbery and several eyewitnesses that may or may not be correct.

All of the facts we have back up the police report that was leaked.

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What color of skin and financial status would satisfy you for a witness? Would a person who wasn't even there do for you as long as they were the right color and had a high economical status? It seems you are still taking the cops account of the events as gospel even though the account originally came from a good friend of the officers who was not even there who felt compelled to give hearsay over the news.

So you're telling me the kid wasn't running away from the situation? If there was conflict at the car then why did he die a good distance away from the car? How did the situation even get to the inside of the car? I've seen enough on COPS to know a good police officer would never let a suspect get close enough to their cruiser to assault him through the window. Sounds like a shitty cop who shouldn't have been on the force in the first place might get away with murder from what seems like a very well orchestrated smear campaign by the local police.

How dose a white police force get to police a majority black community? 2 black officers, one who works the board, sad. Do you think these shootings would happen so frequently if the people policing where that of the same background as the people they were protecting? Personally I don't think so, it would be interesting to see how many of the officers on the ferguson police live within 25 mi. of the community's they patrol. That police force should be all black with 2 white officers.
Which one of you ignorant fucks is gonna be the first to say " You can't have the animals running the zoo"?

Hazydat620 said:

How dose a white police force get to police a majority black community? 2 black officers, one who works the board, sad. Do you think these shootings would happen so frequently if the people policing where that of the same background as the people they were protecting?

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So you are a proponent of segregation?

Harrekin said:

I know it's a quote from the "Obamaphone" video.

Wash too much shit out of people's sheets today?

You seem mad.

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So you enjoy quoting false information.
I don't do the washing, but I will hire you if you need a job and willing to work on weekends
Not mad at all..just pointing out facts.

londonfog said:

You do realize it was an SUV not a car. They sit pretty high off the ground and very possible for some asshole cop to think he can reach and grab someone to him to show his power.

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Have you seen the cop? He is a skinny white boy!!!

londonfog said:

so accordingly is to keep shooting at someone unarmed running away ????

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If he was running away the shots would have been in the back. Nobody is saying that at this point.