Any one part nutes that are good for DWC?

GrowerGoneWild

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I asked GH about the solubility of Maxibloom/Maxigrow.

"The dry ingredients are not 100% soluble." Nancy Long.

But here's the entire email.

GGW

I have a question about maxigrow and maxiblooom..
I've noticed there's a little bit that doesn't dissolve, can I use hot water to make sure it all dissolves?.
My understanding is that the fertilizer somehow binds with the calcium in the water so that's why there's a few crumbs that have a hard time dissolving?... is this correct?.

GH answer

The dry ingredients are not 100% soluble. It has more to do with the mined minerals that won’t go in to solution, than binding with calcium.
 

sidewing

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The thing about gsc is the cookie camp keeps it so tight that nobody has the real cut. Every gsc that anyone has is usually from a s1 seed that they found In their bag of smoke. They say the closest one is thin mint, but I've still never seen anyone with the real thin mint cut either. And if you look at pics from the breeder, their cookie growing doesn't look like anything anyone else has. It's one of those strains honestly I don't think it's worth the hype. But because nobody has it, everybody wants it. It's just good smoke, nothing more nothing less. In my opinion
 

sidewing

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Don't know if you know the story. Basically they had a room with kens gdp, og kush, and a Durban poison. The Durban went hermi and pollinated the other plants. The og kush seeds became gsc, the gdp seeds became cherry pie.
 

GrowerGoneWild

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The thing about gsc is the cookie camp keeps it so tight that nobody has the real cut. Every gsc that anyone has is usually from a s1 seed that they found In their bag of smoke. They say the closest one is thin mint, but I've still never seen anyone with the real thin mint cut either. And if you look at pics from the breeder, their cookie growing doesn't look like anything anyone else has. It's one of those strains honestly I don't think it's worth the hype. But because nobody has it, everybody wants it. It's just good smoke, nothing more nothing less. In my opinion
I see what you're saying but this is a cut. And it was a cut before that, Its possible its from s1 but I dont think it is with the guy I know. What makes it more legitimate in my book is that he's got norcal connections, but it doesn't fit with the stories of GSC comming from central cali.

This will be interesting, Im going to pretty much fill up the greenhouse with cookies. And the sample I got pretty much looked like it should, right color, but I didn't get the mint or menthol and it tested at 16%. And its not a heavy producer, so it pretty much fits the GSC description. And the finished color looks correct, black/purple colors.

As long as its good smoke, im good with it. But I agree with you on the hype... Im ok with that, I kinda have to keep up with trends, like the diesels a few years ago..

Kinda off topic but I think I've put enough in this thread to ramble a bit.
 

sidewing

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I'm sure whatever it is it'll be decent. They all originated from s1 and they're now clones. They haven't released the real original clone to anyone cuz they are working with a seed bank to make their own seeds. It's all money related cuz they charge top dollar to collectives for their outdoor.
That's where I stay (cen cal). Most the cookie cuts are nuwave, fortune cookies, platinum cookies or candyland. The club i go to in San Jose sold a TON of cuts labeled gsc that turned out to not be the real deal. It was good and looked similar, I grew it out. Had good medical qualities, but had a fruity smell.They discontinued it.
 

TheChemist77

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lol i just started so ive only had ziplock so i guess lucky for me i dont have the better to compare to. i do like tubs a lot more though, my bud finisher is in a tub. i would think with a 2 week flush in beneficial tea (basically full of microbes just like soil, but without the actual dirt) without any chemical nutrients would achieve the same flavor as a soil grow. time will tell. i need yield these days so if maxi yields better even more reason for me to stick with it. plus i add sucanat and molasses when i brew the tea. most people in soil flush with those additives, so maybe it'll help with the flavor profile as well on that aspect.i run lower EC's (1.4 which is 700ppm @ .5 conversion) so i dont think i have the high build up levels that one might have running at 1000+ppm aka 2.0ec+. im fine running an extra 2 weeks if it means my flavor and smoothness is there. i used to run 63 days in soil, now running 70 days is not much different. it is different in the fact that im set to harvest every 5 weeks now instead of once every 9 weeks. and i think i'll be pulling the same every 5 weeks as i was on a 9 week soil grow. once again time will tell.
Growing quite a few strains right now, and next week they go into flower, most are 8 week strains but i also have purple bud by seedsman,the mom wasnt purple so im not expecting the color but it will definately go 9 weeks if not more.. its going to mess up my whole rotation as 20 plants will be pulled wile 5 purple buds are going to stick around 1-2 more weeks.. i normally pull all at once but im growing to many strains right now and trying to find my keeper so my next 2 batches are just finding out what strains to cut out and which to keep... going to start a thread in a week or 2 with pics of my room,,hope you guys like it!
 

TheChemist77

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i was givin a cuting by my dispensery they said it was girl scout cookies that was 8 months ago and im in the up of michigan,, must have been lieing to me because i thought it sucked grew strait up, no branches and i didnt taste cookie!! it wasnt even as good as my blue mystic from nirvana.. can u believe my patients told the dispencery bout my blue mystic and had me bring them some to test, levels came back at 18.8%thc and0.99%cbd,, they called me a month later requesting clones for their grow,, i of course brought them 20 clones and they paid me my expences for delivery..
 

sidewing

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Well there's 2 sides of my opinion on that. If you're vending to them then best to keep your strains instead of putting yourself out of business. If they want cuts to give to patients in need thats fine also. But if they want it just to grow themselves and hoard the strain for max profits i don't agree with that.

Yes a lot of fake cookies (fookies is what their crew calls all other cuts of cookies that everyone has). Some are ok. But supposedly their real cookie clone yields high. None of the other phenos do though.

My original plan was to run 8 week cycles and harvest a bucket every 4 weeks. But I decided to go 10 so I can do 2 week flush at end. Plant is already done doing what it's gonna do by that point, so last 2 weeks Is just cleaning out all residuals, and letting things amber, I like the stony couch lock high as opposed to the clear upbeat that comes with little to no amber. Plus I think leeching all nutes (as well as taking temps into 60s) will bring out colors
 

TheChemist77

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Not planning on giving them anymore cuttings. i have the temp low just fall colors, no purples. i myself like the couchlock also, however most of my patients prefer day time smoke,, not to much of a high but still able to control their pain.. by now i can tell who really needs it and the guys who get their cards for"acid reflux" people like that are why doctors are getting strictor... not that i have a problem with everyone smoking but i only take a patient if i feel he or she really need it...for me i feel like im actually helping people that way, and it makes me feel good to know im helping someone by improving their quality of life..
 

sidewing

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i was givin a cuting by my dispensery they said it was girl scout cookies that was 8 months ago and im in the up of michigan,, must have been lieing to me because i thought it sucked grew strait up, no branches and i didnt taste cookie!!
i was gunna say also that the GSC does grow tall, doesnt branch much, needs some training/topping to get it sort of bushy, even then it still grows tall. and of the cuts ive grown and the pieces ive purchased at the collectives, NONE of them tasted like cookies or really that minty. at the most maybe a very very very slight mint flavor. i'd say its always predominantly an OG kush similar flavor. at the most maybe 10% of something that might be mint/menthol. could just be because thats what we've been told to expect.

but in my experience and opinion any GSC one has will be similar to good OG kush. which i think OG kush is just regular weed to begin with, i dont understand the hype surrounding it.
 

TheChemist77

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what can i say KUSH,,, everybody wants it, everyone sais they have it,,. I grew some hindu kush last year nobody believed it was kush because the actual kush from the afghanistan,pakistan etc. isnt what people are actually getting,, they are getting things like bubba kush which in terms of genetics has absolutly no kush in it..Actual kush is 100% indica and mostly used for hash production, however if you can get real 100%indica kush it is definate couchlock effect!!! even the now famous og kush has no relation to the mountainous region kush from the mid east as far as i can tell.. but the hindu kush i grew was truly a great knockout strain, short, bushy, early flwering and crystal covered goodness
 

sidewing

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what can i say KUSH,,, everybody wants it, everyone sais they have it,,. I grew some hindu kush last year nobody believed it was kush because the actual kush from the afghanistan,pakistan etc. isnt what people are actually getting,, they are getting things like bubba kush which in terms of genetics has absolutly no kush in it..Actual kush is 100% indica and mostly used for hash production, however if you can get real 100%indica kush it is definate couchlock effect!!! even the now famous og kush has no relation to the mountainous region kush from the mid east as far as i can tell.. but the hindu kush i grew was truly a great knockout strain, short, bushy, early flwering and crystal covered goodness
lots of truth spoken. og kush is basically chemdawg which is basically close to sour diesel. no kush in it whatsoever. cant remember what the bubba kush was, i thought it was bubblegum x kush.. but ive grown out hindu kush which in my opinion is the straight indica one that is really really relaxing. looks like a christmas tree when flowered outside. i like it a lot. ive also grown afghani kush which to me felt more sativa, im not sure though on its lineage.

kush is just a name/a label that attracts money. real kush is good but people throw the label on things that dont even carry the heritage. it happened to purple also, started seeing a lot of 'purple' strains there like 5-10 years ago when 'grapes' was the big thing. but for me purple was a smell and a taste and a feeling not a visual purple, people started letting plants go extremely deficient in nitrogen and dropping temps really cold to turn any bud purple to say they had the purple, but really only the GDP (my favorite), urkle, purple kush had that grapey purple smell and taste. then you had grape ape and royal purple which had like an earthy gritty type of solid purple that was pretty good also.

now the new one is 'cookies'. everyone has a strain crossed with girl scout cookies. some of which are ok. i like the platinum cookies and candyland.

i just wish things would go back to when we had solid strains, solid genetics and stable strains were being bred and seeds popped by the thousand to find the killer phenos of crosses. i want the strains of the past. the salmon creek, the blueberries, skunk #1, even real GDP, real blue dream. Romulan, tired of all the new crosses that are based purely on a label for profit. anyway, thats my rant for the day lol.
 

TheChemist77

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lots of truth spoken. og kush is basically chemdawg which is basically close to sour diesel. no kush in it whatsoever. cant remember what the bubba kush was, i thought it was bubblegum x kush.. but ive grown out hindu kush which in my opinion is the straight indica one that is really really relaxing. looks like a christmas tree when flowered outside. i like it a lot. ive also grown afghani kush which to me felt more sativa, im not sure though on its lineage.

kush is just a name/a label that attracts money. real kush is good but people throw the label on things that dont even carry the heritage. it happened to purple also, started seeing a lot of 'purple' strains there like 5-10 years ago when 'grapes' was the big thing. but for me purple was a smell and a taste and a feeling not a visual purple, people started letting plants go extremely deficient in nitrogen and dropping temps really cold to turn any bud purple to say they had the purple, but really only the GDP (my favorite), urkle, purple kush had that grapey purple smell and taste. then you had grape ape and royal purple which had like an earthy gritty type of solid purple that was pretty good also.

now the new one is 'cookies'. everyone has a strain crossed with girl scout cookies. some of which are ok. i like the platinum cookies and candyland.

i just wish things would go back to when we had solid strains, solid genetics and stable strains were being bred and seeds popped by the thousand to find the killer phenos of crosses. i want the strains of the past. the salmon creek, the blueberries, skunk #1, even real GDP, real blue dream. Romulan, tired of all the new crosses that are based purely on a label for profit. anyway, thats my rant for the day lol.
Soooo true. have grape ape, blue dream, and gdp seeds need time to give any feed back as i have to many strains and cant decide which to grow. planing on growing seedsmans afghani#1 soon hope its a take me back strain if you get my drift..
 

TheChemist77

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i always think back to high school and that brick mexican weed we all smoked, it was cheap and efective to sleep through school..then hydro became big and prices were so high i could barely get my bills paid after getting an oz. Then i started growing my own orderering seeds from marc emry remember that poor guy? the u.s. really fudged him. but id never turn back growing seems to free the soul and ease the pains of life and now its legal thought id never see the day...still remember all the words to cheech and chongs who ate my bologna !! long turm memory still intact,,its yesterday that seems to be forgotten!! lol..those were the days!!!
 

sidewing

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back then stress/brick weed/chocolate thai whatever you want to call it, it had its purpose. sometimes you'd get a really good batch with hardly any seeds and even though it was short lasting, it was a good switch up every now and then. i havent bought weed from anyone in a long time, but i used to find the random bagseed in a super killer sack, i remember when i first started growing before i got a cloning technique down i had some great strains. i had a seed pop from a really really good blueberry that was solid blue/purple, and tasted like a blueberry muffin times 100. best blueberry ever even to this date. i found 1 seed, and i popped it. i was at my parents house at the time and i put it in the backyard planter. it was such a beautiful plant. from the beginning leaf sets it already had 9 leaves, had crystals already, and purple spotted stems. no doubt it would have been great. i never flowered it cuz my dad found it and killed it.

another one i had after i had moved out was from a batch of i dont even know what it was, but it smelled like really strong blueberry mixed with bubblegum mixed with GDP mixed with sour diesel. just a very unique smell that for some reason reminded me of funfetti cake. it was amazing weed that i found the seed in. i popped it, and the plant was so weird. during the day it would prop up completely all the leaves reaching for the light. at night during lights off it would droop so bad that all the leaves would be hanging straight down against the stem. then as soon as the lights came back on it would perk up. i did get to finish that one sort of (pulled it around week 6-7). it was good weed, but i didnt know how to clone then, and my attempts were unsuccessful.

i have 'mystery weed' seeds still in the fridge. i popped one a few years back that im pretty sure was salmon creek bigbud/california orange. it hermi'd on me and pollinated a KENS gdp and a couple other strains. anyway a few months ago i planted one of those orange/gdp seeds in the yard and it turned out awesome. dense like gdp, smells like gdp, but on exhale it tastes like half orange half gdp. buds are way bigger than gdp, and she's tall and grows a lot of nodes. high yielder. my first 2 attempts to clone her were unsuccessful because i was having problems with slime in my cloner at the time (first time in 5 years, go figure). my 3rd round i got the slime cleared up, but she was already a good month into flower by that point. so i have 2 rooted clones that are taking FOREVER to revert back to veg. but once it does ill be running the 'orange daddy' inside to see how she does. hopefully little to no seeds considering half of the genetics are prone to hermi.
 

GrowerGoneWild

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i just wish things would go back to when we had solid strains, solid genetics and stable strains were being bred and seeds popped by the thousand to find the killer phenos of crosses.
Totally agree with you there, I'm not a huge fan of poly-hybrid crosses either, its almost silly how these crosses are being made. Some are good and some arent that much different from the other. I admit I have to follow trends but I have my own little section in the greenhouse just for me, I know some of the stuff I like isn't the flavor of the day..

Then i started growing my own orderering seeds from marc emry remember that poor guy?
Hell ya I remember ordering from marc back in the day.. It took forever and the envelope was so thrashed when it go here you literally could peek inside the rips and see inside.. I'm lucky it never got siezed.
 

TheChemist77

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back then stress/brick weed/chocolate thai whatever you want to call it, it had its purpose. sometimes you'd get a really good batch with hardly any seeds and even though it was short lasting, it was a good switch up every now and then. i havent bought weed from anyone in a long time, but i used to find the random bagseed in a super killer sack, i remember when i first started growing before i got a cloning technique down i had some great strains. i had a seed pop from a really really good blueberry that was solid blue/purple, and tasted like a blueberry muffin times 100. best blueberry ever even to this date. i found 1 seed, and i popped it. i was at my parents house at the time and i put it in the backyard planter. it was such a beautiful plant. from the beginning leaf sets it already had 9 leaves, had crystals already, and purple spotted stems. no doubt it would have been great. i never flowered it cuz my dad found it and killed it.

another one i had after i had moved out was from a batch of i dont even know what it was, but it smelled like really strong blueberry mixed with bubblegum mixed with GDP mixed with sour diesel. just a very unique smell that for some reason reminded me of funfetti cake. it was amazing weed that i found the seed in. i popped it, and the plant was so weird. during the day it would prop up completely all the leaves reaching for the light. at night during lights off it would droop so bad that all the leaves would be hanging straight down against the stem. then as soon as the lights came back on it would perk up. i did get to finish that one sort of (pulled it around week 6-7). it was good weed, but i didnt know how to clone then, and my attempts were unsuccessful.

i have 'mystery weed' seeds still in the fridge. i popped one a few years back that im pretty sure was salmon creek bigbud/california orange. it hermi'd on me and pollinated a KENS gdp and a couple other strains. anyway a few months ago i planted one of those orange/gdp seeds in the yard and it turned out awesome. dense like gdp, smells like gdp, but on exhale it tastes like half orange half gdp. buds are way bigger than gdp, and she's tall and grows a lot of nodes. high yielder. my first 2 attempts to clone her were unsuccessful because i was having problems with slime in my cloner at the time (first time in 5 years, go figure). my 3rd round i got the slime cleared up, but she was already a good month into flower by that point. so i have 2 rooted clones that are taking FOREVER to revert back to veg. but once it does ill be running the 'orange daddy' inside to see how she does. hopefully little to no seeds considering half of the genetics are prone to hermi.
just had a question,, for the first time i just had a skunk #1 that is a true hermaphrodite, never seen one like this before, it was in flower for 3 weeks when i seen balls forming so i put it in a room i have dedicated to males for breeding, anyways in the last 3 days all the sudden its forming buds on top of the pollen balls, as i said ive sprayed females before to get pollen and have grown males for pollen never seen anything like this.. will the pollen produced be feminized or prone to herms? i kept a clone from it before it went into flower and plan on fllowering the clone to see if it will look like the mom or maybe the mom was stressed to do that but it was in with all my other mothers and they are not stressed so i dont think stress could be a factor. if the clone does the same thing ill throw it away but if the clone is pure female ill keep the pollen because it would be feminized pollen wright???
 

sidewing

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hard to say, instinct would say pollen would be hermi prone unless it was induced by some sort of enviromental issue like a light leak or something it might be female. but the good pheno clone of cherry pie can show early balls first few weeks of flower, then it goes full force female after that and the seeds never mature and nothing gets pollinated. might have to just run it and see what happens.

i actually pulled it out of flower the first time i ran it inside cuz i saw balls. i was pissed. then i posted on the boards to see what people had to say and everyone told me to run it, that the seeds never mature and your final product will be seedless. i took their word for it and im glad i did. one of my top strains now.
 
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TheChemist77

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hard to say, instinct would say pollen would be hermi prone unless it was induced by some sort of enviromental issue like a light leak or something it might be female. but the good pheno clone of cherry pie can show early balls first few weeks of flower, then it goes full force female after that and the seeds never mature and nothing gets pollinated. might have to just run it and see what happens.

i actually pulled it out of flower the first time i ran it inside cuz i saw balls. i was pissed. then i posted on the boards to see what people had to say and everyone told me to run it, that the seeds never mature and your final product will be seedless. i took their word for it and im glad i did. one of my top strains now.
wow,, never seen that either. i guess its strain related, id of pulled it to,, i wouldve thrown away the skunk right away if i didnt have planned on breeding as i wouldnt have had a room just for males, well i coloected a little pollen and the clone went in flower yesterday we will see what happens..
 
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