Doctors that'll sign for a minor(my son).

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WHATFG said:
Agreed. But all those medications have to be causing some impairment. I used to go to high school stoned, I didn't fail....I might have done better...but no failing. But then the next guy fucked up so bad he had to repeat...6 of one,1/2 dozen of the other. It is individualistic just like pharmaceuticals. Just because that pill works for you doesn't mean it will work for me. Again...he's already found relief in med mari. It's amazing how once I realized how well marijuana worked for my back pain and spasms I did whatever needed doing to make sure I had relief. I suspect that if he's admitting to trying it twice, he's probably done it more ( no judgement). Feeling like shit sucks.
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Again, nowhere am i advocating to use pills just because you can't use cannabis. When i was depressed, even without cannabis, i didn't use pills.

This is why i am asking how severe the depression is. Basically unless he's a suicide case then i'd tell him to man up and deal with it. I am one of these people who does not agree with cannabis for young kids unless there is a very real reason why they should have it, such as either potentially being a fuck up stoner, or a dead child, in which case cannabis certainly makes sense. But not if he's just a bit weepy because his friends didn't like his facebook update or he doesn't fit in well at school. At 15 i wouldn't be giving him pills either unless it was suicide serious. and if it was that serious, then this thread wouldn't exist, the dad would be obtaining cannabis no matter the method and legality.
 
leaffan

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I'm a little confused.
You started this thread because you want to find a doctor who will make it "legal" for your son to use marijuana.
I gave you a doctor's name, you replied you knew a doctor already...so??
If anxiety is the root for all his other issues might I suggest looking into Lorazepam.
 
Brewery

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Ahh my favourite topic at the moment... Cannabis and mental illness.

I suffer from depression, mania, and ADD/ADHD.

Does cannabis help my symptoms? Sure - when I'm stoned I feel better - once is sober up the symptoms come back.

Do pharmaceuticals help? Sure - but they bring a whole host of other symptoms.

I'm a strong believer in less is more. Less medicine is my route. I take a minimum dose of pharmaceuticals to keep me level and use psychotherapy to help with the remainder. If I were to try to treat my conditions with solely cannabis I wouldn't be able to function at the level I do. I'm a huge supporter of cannabis both recreationally and medically but I can't wrap my head around its use for my conditions.

These are just my experiences though.

And to whoever said they stopped taking their ssri/snri's cold turkey please stop disseminating bad practice. Just because you didn't have a bad experience doesn't mean it's a good idea. That practice has caused major problems with many people in the past. That exact practice almost killed me in 2005
 
leaffan

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I am not interested in the 14 year old's name that got a licence (mmar licence or doctor's document?), but I am very interested in what condition this kid has.
 
WHATFG

WHATFG

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leaffan said:
I'm a little confused.
You started this thread because you want to find a doctor who will make it "legal" for your son to use marijuana.
I gave you a doctor's name, you replied you knew a doctor already...so??
If anxiety is the root for all his other issues might I suggest looking into Lorazepam.
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Hey leaf? What's up? You seem really miffed by this thread and I don't mean that in a cunty way.
 
OKLP

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I have a VERY similar brain, and for me anxiety is the key. All ADD drugs they tried on me backfired, some horribly! I take a MINIMAL dose of Effexor daily, it reduces the intensity of my anxiety triggers by over half, often keeps them in the manageable range. My medical cannabis rounds out the edges.

With recently finding the right combination, I am now doing VERY well, in comparison to the rest of my life. Just completed Cognitive Behaviour Therapy, VERY helpful. Taking Dialectic Behaviour Therapy this fall.
 
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I would say looking into those concussion related headaches might be a good idea. Growing up I played a lot of contact sports, hockey, football and lacrosse. I had a few concussions over the years, as well as super intense headaches that the doctors thought were related to the concussions but would eventually go away. Well in my early 20s I started having seizures in my sleep. With no family history of epilepsy aside from an aunt who had seizures for many years following a severe car accident, doctors linked it to head trauma during my formative years. Not saying this is going to happen but I would suggest having them dig a little deeper than they have into the cause of those headaches and possible effects it could have on your son later on. It really sucked having my life change overnight and not being able to lead the life a normal 20 something year old would have lead ie: partying with friends, staying out late, driving, having "sleep overs" at girls places for fear of having a seizure there, it restricted the jobs I could take back then. I wouldn't wish that on anyone. Eventually after years of trying different combinations of meds I found that I could cut my pharmaceuticals down to one dose of tegretol a day, which by the way for this drug is considered less than therapeutic dose, as long as I use a lot of high cbd and high thc cannabis. Haven't had a seizure in 6 years now since making the switch but it was hell for the first while.
 
GrowRock

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If you want to get your sons brain chemestry assessed so you can actually treat what's wrong tell your doctor to contact pharmasan labs inc they are out of the states they will ship a siliva and urine test right to your door follow instructions and ship it back. This will tell your doctor the dopamine, estriol, serotonin, progesterone testosterone, 5-hiaa GABA, taurine, glutamate, glycine histamine, pea, DOPAC, norepinephrine, epinephrine and cortisol levels. I recommend anyone who has been diagnosed with any kind of mental illness look into this test it cost $640 but best money ever spent. Then you know what is actually missing in your brain. My body does not produce serotonin so I have to take triptiphan which is derived from turkey meat and of course my cannabis. But I hope this helps anyone cause all the pills out there for depression anxiety bipolar disorder fuck with people's heads. I would know over the last 15 years I have been on over 25 to 30 different pills some would help but the side effects are terrible.


Peace
 
Hazydat620

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leaffan said:
To my knowledge it would be a first. I'm not a doctor, so I guess my concerns are irrelevant.
The most liberal mmj doctor that i know of is Dr. Mike Hart in London ON
I wouldn't mind an update if you're so inclined.
Again all the best,
leaf
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Really??? you must not open up your eyes wide enough. Must account for your ignorant views.
 
leaffan

leaffan

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Don't know what the really??? is referring to...why don't you enlighten me if you have the time.
Perhaps my views are ignorant, dunno...
 
leaffan

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Hazydat620 said:
You and your son should take a trip to Israel after the conflict has settled down. They are light years ahead of the U.S in regard to cannabis. They prescribe cannabis to adolescence all the time there. Something like 100000 people are prescribed cannabis.
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I know Israel is doing an amazing job with cannabis research, but I thought they only had 15,000 odd patients that were prescribed? Any source for the 100,000 people reference?

"Israel is so far thought to have permitted cannabis to be prescribed to somewhere between 80 and 100 children, most of them cancer patients."

http://www.haaretz.com/news/national/.premium-1.578170
 
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Yessicat

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leaffan said:
I'm a little confused.
You started this thread because you want to find a doctor who will make it "legal" for your son to use marijuana.
I gave you a doctor's name, you replied you knew a doctor already...so??
If anxiety is the root for all his other issues might I suggest looking into Lorazepam.
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Yeah, I know the doctor already. His name is Dr. Khawar Abbasi of Fieldgate Medical Clinic in Mississauga. Recently, however, he's stopped accepting patients for MMJ. I talked to him personally and he said regardless of the patient(I originally talked to him using myself as the patient, not my son), he doesn't sign anymore.

The kid, however, supposedly suffered from panic attacks quite frequently. I'm getting this from his parents, who I'm not quite "good friends" with, but we've had them over for dinner a few times. If Dr. Abbasi still accepted patients, I wouldn't have to post this thread :)
 
leaffan

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Yessicat said:
Yeah, I know the doctor already. His name is Dr. Khawar Abbasi of Fieldgate Medical Clinic in Mississauga. Recently, however, he's stopped accepting patients for MMJ. I talked to him personally and he said regardless of the patient(I originally talked to him using myself as the patient, not my son), he doesn't sign anymore.

The kid, however, supposedly suffered from panic attacks quite frequently. I'm getting this from his parents, who I'm not quite "good friends" with, but we've had them over for dinner a few times. If Dr. Abbasi still accepted patients, I wouldn't have to post this thread :)
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Ah I see, thanks. Wonder why he doesn't sign anymore?
 
Yessicat

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symptum said:
I would say looking into those concussion related headaches might be a good idea. Growing up I played a lot of contact sports, hockey, football and lacrosse. I had a few concussions over the years, as well as super intense headaches that the doctors thought were related to the concussions but would eventually go away. Well in my early 20s I started having seizures in my sleep. With no family history of epilepsy aside from an aunt who had seizures for many years following a severe car accident, doctors linked it to head trauma during my formative years. Not saying this is going to happen but I would suggest having them dig a little deeper than they have into the cause of those headaches and possible effects it could have on your son later on. It really sucked having my life change overnight and not being able to lead the life a normal 20 something year old would have lead ie: partying with friends, staying out late, driving, having "sleep overs" at girls places for fear of having a seizure there, it restricted the jobs I could take back then. I wouldn't wish that on anyone. Eventually after years of trying different combinations of meds I found that I could cut my pharmaceuticals down to one dose of tegretol a day, which by the way for this drug is considered less than therapeutic dose, as long as I use a lot of high cbd and high thc cannabis. Haven't had a seizure in 6 years now since making the switch but it was hell for the first while.
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I mean, it's not as if we've just ignored the matter. He's had several appointments and a few MRIs, but nothing was diagnosed. I can't really count it as an illness for this topic if he wasn't diagnosed with anything.
 
leaffan

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Yessicat said:
Yeah, I know the doctor already. His name is Dr. Khawar Abbasi of Fieldgate Medical Clinic in Mississauga. Recently, however, he's stopped accepting patients for MMJ. I talked to him personally and he said regardless of the patient(I originally talked to him using myself as the patient, not my son), he doesn't sign anymore.

The kid, however, supposedly suffered from panic attacks quite frequently. I'm getting this from his parents, who I'm not quite "good friends" with, but we've had them over for dinner a few times. If Dr. Abbasi still accepted patients, I wouldn't have to post this thread :)
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I find it amazing that a doctor prescribed marijuana for a 14 year old for panic attacks.
Not trying to be a prick. I've just never heard of this before for a 14 year old. I talk to a lot of doctors, so this is why I am so interested.
 
Jackal69

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have you tried acupuncture for the headaches, I would at lest try a physiotherapist ... it may be the accident or sports injuries could have some underlying injury. I know when I would get I debilitating headache around my physio time... he popped couple needles in and the rush of relief blasted over my skull.... acupuncture is wicked if you can find someone who can do it right.
 
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