Twice as many people disapprove of government as approve of it.

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NoDrama

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But really its mostly....

Because – as horrible as Bush was – Obama is worse than Bush in favoring the super-elite, bailing out the big banks, protecting financial criminals, targeting whistleblowers, keeping government secrets, trampling our liberties and starting military conflicts in new countries.

Obama is the least popular president in 40 years.

http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2013/12/obama-least-popular-president-4-decades.html

just a blog, don't read it.

I think we should call the Pres the GOTUS. Golfer Of The United States
 
pinkjackyle

pinkjackyle

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all you need to do is follow the money then youll find out their policies after theyre elected . the only differance between repub and dems is one rules from the right the other rule from the left , the goals are same they just take differant routes getting there .
 
H.M. Murdoch

H.M. Murdoch

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Obama's pacifist nature has doomed Iraq to return to it's dictatorship type of government. We spent billions of dollars and many lives liberating them, and Obama is content to watch them return to a dictatorship.

Air strikes? His way of trying to appease both the democrats and republicans. "Do a halfway job" seems to be his motto.

"No boots on the ground" = cowardice on the part of Obama.
 
pinkjackyle

pinkjackyle

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H.M. Murdoch said:
Obama's pacifist nature has doomed Iraq to return to it's dictatorship type of government. We spent billions of dollars and many lives liberating them, and Obama is content to watch them return to a dictatorship.

Air strikes? His way of trying to appease both the democrats and republicans. "Do a halfway job" seems to be his motto.

"No boots on the ground" = cowardice on the part of Obama.
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murdoch i dont want to go to iraq do you ? its time to let the pieces fall where they may . america has been screwing around in the middleeast since the end of wwii and where has it got us ?
 
H.M. Murdoch

H.M. Murdoch

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pinkjackyle said:
murdoch i dont want to go to iraq do you ? its time to let the pieces fall where they may . america has been screwing around in the middleeast since the end of wwii and where has it got us ?
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You make a good point. IDK. I just hate to see that country return to a military threat to world peace. And they will if we just stand by.

And to answer your question, no, I personally wouldn't want to go to Iraq and fight. Then again, I'm 51 years old.
 
pinkjackyle

pinkjackyle

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H.M. Murdoch said:
You make a good point. IDK. I just hate to see that country return to a military threat to world peace. And they will if we just stand by.

And to answer your question, no, I personally wouldn't want to go to Iraq and fight. Then again, I'm 51 years old.
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44 here , but its the older guys like us that should go it should be the 51 & 44 yearold guys coming home on a slab not the 18-20 yr olds . i got a football knee that ive had 2 operations on so i know ill prob get it but i can stop a bullit as well as a young fella .
 
PetFlora

PetFlora

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War is not the answer, unless you're a IMF/Fed Reserve bankster

If you look carefully behind the veil, they have covertly created the conditions for war then finance both sides going back hundreds, if not thousands of years
 
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AlecTheGardener

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H.M. Murdoch said:
Obama's pacifist nature has doomed Iraq to return to it's dictatorship type of government. We spent billions of dollars and many lives liberating them, and Obama is content to watch them return to a dictatorship.

Air strikes? His way of trying to appease both the democrats and republicans. "Do a halfway job" seems to be his motto.

"No boots on the ground" = cowardice on the part of Obama.
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I hear 'So let's throw more lives away.' I completely could have asseed up my interpretation, I am not trying to put words in your mouth. Trying to get the full intent.

Or is there another way?
H.M. Murdoch said:
You make a good point. IDK. I just hate to see that country return to a military threat to world peace. And they will if we just stand by.

And to answer your question, no, I personally wouldn't want to go to Iraq and fight. Then again, I'm 51 years old.
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I have been there twice.

War a is poor answer for diplomats and the military industrial complex.

I treated thousands of service members in the Mosul CSH as a nurse in the ER.

When I heard that ISIS took Mosul it was frustrating.

ISIS taking northern Iraq just drove home the fact that service members died almost exclusively for the military industrial complex.

We made a mistake before, making more mistakes to correct this will only end in poor outcomes for everyone.
 
UncleBuck

UncleBuck

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H.M. Murdoch said:
Obama's pacifist nature has doomed Iraq to return to it's dictatorship type of government. We spent billions of dollars and many lives liberating them, and Obama is content to watch them return to a dictatorship.

Air strikes? His way of trying to appease both the democrats and republicans. "Do a halfway job" seems to be his motto.

"No boots on the ground" = cowardice on the part of Obama.
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why don't you head on over there yourself to correct the fallout from bush's war of choice, a war obama was protesting right until the day the troops deployed.
 
earnest_voice

earnest_voice

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H.M. Murdoch said:
Obama's pacifist nature has doomed Iraq to return to it's dictatorship type of government. We spent billions of dollars and many lives liberating them, and Obama is content to watch them return to a dictatorship.

Air strikes? His way of trying to appease both the democrats and republicans. "Do a halfway job" seems to be his motto.

"No boots on the ground" = cowardice on the part of Obama.
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There are boots on ground ~1000 according to latest numbers.

Who do you think are directing airstrikes? Advising Peshmerga fighters? Collecting Intelligence from the ground?

The Brits have re-established their kill/capture raids and Obama has directed considerable ISR (intelligence, surveillance, reconnaissance) platforms to the area which is likely in preparation for a ground assault.
 
Harrekin

Harrekin

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AlecTheGardener said:
I hear 'So let's throw more lives away.' I completely could have asseed up my interpretation, I am not trying to put words in your mouth. Trying to get the full intent.

Or is there another way?

I have been there twice.

War a is poor answer for diplomats and the military industrial complex.

I treated thousands of service members in the Mosul CSH as a nurse in the ER.

When I heard that ISIS took Mosul it was frustrating.

ISIS taking northern Iraq just drove home the fact that service members died almost exclusively for the military industrial complex.

We made a mistake before, making more mistakes to correct this will only end in poor outcomes for everyone.
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Lol, nurse.
 
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