Club Vert(600)

ttystikk

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@Dezracer it sounds like you've got your situation pretty well thought through and under control. Forgive my enthusiasm in encouraging vertical grows anywhere and everywhere!
 

Dezracer

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No worries! It's always good to hear what other people are thinking too, you know? We are human after all and make mistakes so another person's perspective is always welcome
 

Holy Grail 888

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Red1966

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After a long hiatus, I am starting a new grow. I plan to use a new Ebb & Gro system I've never used before. I have 2 dimmable 600w and 1 400w electronic ballasts. A 4.5 x 8 x 6.5 tent will be used. I have an A/C system for the tent that can cool it with 2 600w bare bulbs going, but it rapidly reduces the rh below 14%, the point at which my meter is limited, so I intend to use 2 stacked 6" cool tubes. I want to use the Ebb & Gro so I can move the plants around if needed, or even remove some if needed. I thought to place 8 Big Bud seeds in starter plugs in 8 2 gallon containers in a circle. Any suggestions, like how many gallons in the reservoir, lamp spacing, size of circle, support for the plants (Big Bud is prone to breaking branches), etc.?
 

DST

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Can't really comment about your res etc as I am a soil grower. But if you are going vertical get a screen to tie eveything onto (unless you feel you have the space to grow them normally). I try and keep my vertical lights hung around 1 metre (3-4 feet apart) as light waves can cancel each other out when coming from two different sources too close to each other (well, in physics they certainly do). If you use a screen then you don't need to worry about support for the plants, and as far as the size of the circle, my advise would be to maximise your space. So if you are using a tent then have the screens around the walls of the tent to give your lights maximum spread across the verical canopy. I have fans blowing down ontop my vertical grow as I find when you move air with the fans blowing upwards, you get a lot of leaf burn. Just a few suggestions from over here.
It has been Easter weekend which is probably why there is a lack of responses.
Good luck,
DST
 

DST

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chill winston, it was only 12 hours, and someone did chime in (me, lol).......on some forums you can wait a day or more for a response (like pc technical forums), but people will always get round to saying something. The key word here (in life) is patience....and with stoners it's always good to put pictures of sticky buds up which is like shite for flies!
 

LilT211

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Can't really comment about your res etc as I am a soil grower. But if you are going vertical get a screen to tie eveything onto (unless you feel you have the space to grow them normally). I try and keep my vertical lights hung around 1 metre (3-4 feet apart) as light waves can cancel each other out when coming from two different sources too close to each other (well, in physics they certainly do). If you use a screen then you don't need to worry about support for the plants, and as far as the size of the circle, my advise would be to maximise your space. So if you are using a tent then have the screens around the walls of the tent to give your lights maximum spread across the verical canopy. I have fans blowing down ontop my vertical grow as I find when you move air with the fans blowing upwards, you get a lot of leaf burn. Just a few suggestions from over here.
It has been Easter weekend which is probably why there is a lack of responses.
Good luck,
DST
Do you have any pics of your setup? Would really appreciate a visual. I have a 4x4x7 tent and was thinking of growing four in the center of the tent around the bulb. You're saying place them against each wall? A little help here thanks.
 

LilT211

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I know. MOST of the posts on my thread are mine. I really think people just don't give a shit unless there's something in it for them.
I think most ppl here aren't ignoring you or any thread. The view count shows that. I know for me I read this thread and most of my questions were answered and I never even needed to butt in lol. Im watching, listening and most importantly learning. Please continue.
 

Dezracer

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Do you have any pics of your setup? Would really appreciate a visual. I have a 4x4x7 tent and was thinking of growing four in the center of the tent around the bulb. You're saying place them against each wall? A little help here thanks.
There are lots of pics of his setup in the club 600 thread. He started the thread so he's even got pics right at the beginning of it, easy to find ;)
 

DST

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I think most of my pics are not here due to the switch over in site software. They have said the albums are safe though.

Anyway, just switching over to 12/12 now so expecting the screen to be full (he say's crossing fingers:))
2 x 200mm cool tubes, 2x600w, 10 inch can/filter and an 8 inch fan with fans for air circulation blowing down from the roof where fresh air is pumped out from the top of the cab.
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slainte, DST
 

headbandrocker

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Howdy guys,I am building a vert room this weekend and have a few questions
You might be able to help me with:
1) what is the proper distance to run the plants to the bare bulb 600s?
(bulbs will be on a mover with 6 total bulbs )
2) I will be building my specs around bubba nubs football shaped 8 racks idea
And wonder what the best layout for bulbs would be
(was thinking 3 tier with 2 bulbs per tier)

Any feedback would be greatly appreciated,thanks in advance
Bless
 

LilT211

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I think most of my pics are not here due to the switch over in site software. They have said the albums are safe though.

Anyway, just switching over to 12/12 now so expecting the screen to be full (he say's crossing fingers:))
2 x 200mm cool tubes, 2x600w, 10 inch can/filter and an 8 inch fan with fans for air circulation blowing down from the roof where fresh air is pumped out from the top of the cab.
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slainte, DST
Moment of silence... Wow man if i can come half way close to that i'll be grateful. Got off of work and it did me good to see a visual like this. Plants look real healthy man. Thanks for the visual it's really hard trying to go back and read older posts, sometimes years, and the pics aren't showing up. Thanks for digging thru the archives and finding one. I think that for my setup it would be better for me to have the fan still pointing upward. My tent is now inside of an air-conditioned room so I'm just going to exhaust thru the top ports and negative pressure in some clean air. Room is going to be kept between 65 and 68 degrees. Even with the hot exhaust air i think the ambient temperature outside of the tent but inside of the room should be no more than 75 degrees. Enough about my setup... what type of screen are you using? looks like fencing but I'm not sure. I am really interested in a vertScrog setup but I'm really clueless on whether to build the screen in the middle or build it along the walls of the tent like you did. Any differences or specific reason you went with your setup?
 

DST

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@headbandrocker, as long as you have good air circulation blowing between your fans and the plants I would think the same as in a horizontal set up. (foot to 1.5 feet)...I think the best person to ask since I run cool tubes is whodatnation, he runs a bare bulb vertical set up and has great pics. He's running a light mover on his with one bulb though. And to get a proper assessment the size of the area you are working with would be great to know.

@LilT211, these are not old pics, I took them last night. Anyway you can have the fans pointing down or up, I have found down is better otherwise your leaves get "leaf burn" as wind tends to blow down on plants in nature, if you are blowing wind up to the leaves this is when they burn. For the screen I am using tomato netting which I can replace or continue to use depending on how careful I am harvesting. I think metal chicken wire would work best, and definitely set up against the walls, as far away from the light source as possible. I chose my set up as I am living in an apartment and have limited grow space and have to keep my grow outside of the main living area. So I thought what would I do with 1.2metre (4 feet squared) to get the most, and due to me being greeding I followed my good friend Jigfresh (also check out his vertical grows). And that's about that, have a good day Vertical people (although I do like to be horizontal for a good part of the day:))
 

LilT211

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@headbandrocker, as long as you have good air circulation blowing between your fans and the plants I would think the same as in a horizontal set up. (foot to 1.5 feet)...I think the best person to ask since I run cool tubes is whodatnation, he runs a bare bulb vertical set up and has great pics. He's running a light mover on his with one bulb though. And to get a proper assessment the size of the area you are working with would be great to know.

@LilT211, these are not old pics, I took them last night. Anyway you can have the fans pointing down or up, I have found down is better otherwise your leaves get "leaf burn" as wind tends to blow down on plants in nature, if you are blowing wind up to the leaves this is when they burn. For the screen I am using tomato netting which I can replace or continue to use depending on how careful I am harvesting. I think metal chicken wire would work best, and definitely set up against the walls, as far away from the light source as possible. I chose my set up as I am living in an apartment and have limited grow space and have to keep my grow outside of the main living area. So I thought what would I do with 1.2metre (4 feet squared) to get the most, and due to me being greeding I followed my good friend Jigfresh (also check out his vertical grows). And that's about that, have a good day Vertical people (although I do like to be horizontal for a good part of the day:))
DST thanks for snapping those pics. I didn't know they were that recent. Ever since RIU switched over a lot of pics have vanished wasn't sure how old those stills were. Im really thinking of giving my room the best i can. Trying to see if i can have one fan oscillating above my canopy while still having on dead center only for the light. I guess in a way both fans working in conjunction would make for a lot of air circulation. My space is also (16sqft.) How many ladies do you currently have in there or how many would you suggest? The tomato netting doesn't look like a bad idea. Mad a scrog and after realizing some strains grow 1-3 inches in one day that my little twine contraption wasn't going to cut it.

After this post Im heading over to jigfresh's journal for some informative morning reading
Thanks for the sound advice
 

Dezracer

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@ Lilt211 - Sorry if I led you down the wrong path with the pics suggestion, I forget that a lot of pics didn't make it through the transition here on RIU.

Thanks D for stepping in. U da man, as usual ;)
 

DST

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I guess with the lighs being bare, you will probably want some air blowing up onto the bulb, which is what most seem to do (whodatnation, doobiebrother do it). I have always wondered about blowing air directly onto a hot bulb though that is not in a cool tube, it's kind of like creating a fan based heater. Like a greenhouse heater where the element heats up and air is blown over it to create hot air. I would have thought that blowing air down (or up) the side channels of the light is better. Then you are creating a cool channel of air around the light. Just a thought.
 
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