Greenleaf Medicinal product recall

mcknot

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I had sent in my ATP to this crew...they will be sending it back to me next week. I have talked with Tilray and they had said they would be charging $7-$12 per gram but to check back on Monday when they thought their website would be changed to reflect prices and shipping costs. Sounded like a $5 flat rate was what it was going to be.
 

rnr

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should have kept it all in Canada! americans, fthat. gain and use there knowledge, but keep the buds and or there companies out of Canada, unless they invest 100% of all profits back into Canada. b.c can grow the elite of MJ in the world. hiring Canadian.
 

The Hippy

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12 bucks a gram....jeez man....$336 an ounce
I certainly couldn't afford that.
Why is any strain any more than another one.
Same facility...same hydro...same workers....same, same, same
They cost the same to grow
another example of thievery
 

The Hippy

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Yes I agree the hydro is a small consideration. But less yield from one to another I'm not buying as an excuse for higher price.
 

woodsmaneh!

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Well we get to see how well the re-call system HC has been insisting all LP's have works. 63 patents were impacted by the re-call. I think we will know what the root cause is in a while. It could be anything from bad lab work but they said production issues so contamination from the production run or after packaging. My guess is mold in the packaging. Now we get to see in real time how it's handled and if customers will forgive and forget, or punish GreenLeaf.

Remember this is a new industry and start up issues are bound to happen like this. The system works HC caught this during an inspection and shut them down. I'll tell you one thing the good people at GreenLeaf are doing some serious sole searching and I hope some heads roll (the price of failure) and the industry as a whole learns something. The other thing I'll tell you, when GreenLeaf comes back they will be the safest Medical Cannabis Company in Canada, why? There will be no second chance if they blow it again. I would buy from them when they comeback. There are ways to prevent this from happening and maybe start using HACCP guys! All the best.
 

gb123

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and once again. Tell me that the so called "recalled weed" is going to be thrown out. lol
Sure, they'll take the kick in the nuts and bin the shwag. Not friggin likely.
I smell bubble, wax and shatter brewin. Although, bad starting material does have its draw backs.
 

woodsmaneh!

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and once again. Tell me that the so called "recalled weed" is going to be thrown out. lol
Sure, they'll take the kick in the nuts and bin the shwag. Not friggin likely.
I smell bubble, wax and shatter brewin. Although, bad starting material does have its draw backs.
We are talking about 5 to 6 pound here but it will be destroyed you can count on that. PL's in Canada can only sell dried cannabis and nothing else. Check back after the election in 14 months and we will see recreational use and all kinds of goodies.
 

leaffan

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Thank you for the update woodsman.
Wondering if you can answer a question regarding testing?
My background is marketing, and I am fairly ignorant when it comes to the QAP arena.
I recently had dinner with an LP (unnamed) and was interested with their discussion of testing and standards.
So, as far as I know there is no standards specifically for heavy metals, moulds, mildew etc for dried marijuana. I know the product has to be tested. What benchmark or standards do these test results have to meet or surpass? I assumed it would be for consumable herbs that are covered by the pharmacopeia that the LP is using. Can an LP set their own standards and benchmarks while still being compliant?
Thanks in advance.
 
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gb123

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We are talking about 5 to 6 pound here but it will be destroyed you can count on that. PL's in Canada can only sell dried cannabis and nothing else. Check back after the election in 14 months and we will see recreational use and all kinds of goodies.
5 or six pounds. You sound so sure of yourself here. HTF do you know? They recall 6 pounds lmao..Do you really think that's all the recalled weed they have in stock...only 6 pounds ? lol
...and its going in the bin.. lmao. Sure it is lol
 

Big Pauly

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Unfortunately, I did let them entice me with the low prices and the 100 in the account. but FORTUNATELY my papers were not to be sent off until this week. Doc's been called and put the brakes on

.Back on the hunt.
 

woodsmaneh!

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Thank you for the update woodsman.
Wondering if you can answer a question regarding testing?
My background is marketing, and I am fairly ignorant when it comes to the QAP arena.
I recently had dinner with an LP (unnamed) and was interested with their discussion of testing and standards.
So, as far as I know there is no standards specifically for heavy metals, moulds, mildew etc for dried marijuana. I know the product has to be tested. What benchmark or standards do these test results have to meet or surpass? I assumed it would be for consumable herbs that are covered by the pharmacopeia that the LP is using. Can an LP set their own standards and benchmarks while still being compliant?
Thanks in advance.
All LP's must pick a Pharmacopoeia and use it as their bible for testing. The pharmacopoeia has all the information with regards to all the testing that needs to be done for heavy metals, molds, mildew and pesticides for dried marijuana. . The book also specifies what you have to do and what packaging you have to use ect. If you screw up that's the book they beat you with. I always recommend the European Pharmacopoeia as they have the most knowledge on Cannabis. LP's can set any standards they want as long as the meet or exceed the set standard in the pharmacopoeia.
 

woodsmaneh!

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Here is some info on the new American Monograph for Cannabis

Cannabis Monograph Q&A

In 2011, the American Herbal Pharmacopoeia (AHP) began the development of a Monograph and Therapeutic Compendium for Cannabis. The initiative began in part due to the increasing State by State acceptance of Cannabis for medicinal purposes and the need for quality standards to be applied to this material and partly in recognition that Cannabis is widely used for medicinal purposes, which suggests the need for accurate

information regarding appropriate use and safety.


What is the overall mission of AHP?

Since 1995, AHP has been developing standards of identity, purity, quality, and therapeutic and safety reviews for botanical ingredients. The overall goal of AHP is to promote the quality, safety, and integrity of herbal medicine.


What is the purpose of the Cannabis monograph?

The primary focus of all monographs is to provide testing standards that provide scientifically valid ways for ensuring the identity, purity, potency, and quality of botanical raw materials.


What type of tests will the AHP monograph contain?

Every monograph contains a suite of identification and quality tests including botanical, macroscopic, microscopic, and chemical characterizations. Specific chemical tests will include thin layer chromatography, which can be used for identification purposes; and high performance liquid chromatography (HPLC) and gas chromatography (GC) used to quantify key cannabinoids. Additionally, the monograph will include guidance regarding pesticides, metals, and microbial limits and testing.


What is the primary purpose of having multiple methods of analysis?

Multiple methods allow for a variety of stakeholders to employ scientifically valid techniques from ensuring identity, purity, and quality whether in the field, dispensary, a patient, product manufacturer, or regulator. Also, different techniques assess different things and so a multiple of tests is always better than simply employing one.


What makes the analytical methods included in the AHP monograph scientifically valid compared to other methods?

The selection of tests include are formal tests included in every pharmacopoeia (compendium of drug products) worldwide. The chemical tests included have been in use for more than 30 years. One set of tests comes from the peer –reviewed scientific literature and was used as part of the formal drug enforcement agency (DEA) program for testing Cannabis samples; another test is used as part of a United Nations program for drug evaluation.


Will these be considered to be the “best” methods for analysis of Cannabis?

There is never one technique or method that is best for all things all the time and technology is always changing. What is most important is to establish methodologies that give reproducible and consistent results, which these methods do. The monograph will establish a scientifically valid baseline of accurate reporting of analytical results. Thereafter, other methods can be compared against the AHP method.


Why is it important to establish one set of methods as the benchmark for analysis?

Currently in the Cannabis analytical world, different analysts are using different technologies and methods and reporting their results, such as quantitation of THC, in different ways that are often not scientifically valid. They then use those analytical results to claim some level of superiority, such as higher THC values, which dispensaries and patients or product manufacturers use to influence buying decisions. However, every technology and method gives different results so the values being reported are not consistent and so buying choices are often made on inaccurate information. Adherence to a monograph standard ensures that results are consistent and findings are accurate.


What is the AHP Therapeutic Compendium?

The Therapeutic Compendium is a comprehensive review of the totality of the available medical literature for Cannabis. It includes historical and traditional herbal medicine experience along with a review of modern scientific literature encompassing indications, contraindications, side effects, dosing, preparations, safety, use in pregnancy, and interactions with conventional medications.


How is the AHP Therapeutic Compendium different from the plethora of already existing Cannabis information?

Most popular information is generated from inaccurate or imprecise extrapolations of the benefit or potential benefit of Cannabis as reflected in pharmacological research. Much of this research is xploratory and may not have any relevance to human clinical use. Additionally, reporting biases heavily influence many sources of information, popular and scientific. Pro-Cannabis reporting often exaggerate the potential benefits of the

botanical, while anti-Cannabis reporting will often negate any potential benefit. The truth is usually somewhere in the middle. A key element of the AHP Therapeutic ompendium is that it will be reviewed by multidisciplinary groups of reviewers representing herbal and naturopathic medicine on the traditional use side and medical doctors, pharmacists, pharmacologists and toxicologists on the science side. When completed the herapeutic Compendium will represent one of the most comprehensive and balanced reviews of the totality of the Cannabis literature anywhere in the world.


When is the anticipated release date of the AHP Monograph and Therapeutic Compendium?

The Standards of Identity, Quality, and Testing monograph will be released first, with a target time of fourth quarter 2013. We expect the Therapeutic Compendium can be released within 4–6 months after that.


Where can people get more information about the AHP Monograph and Therapeutic Compendium?

www.herbal-ahp.org

[email protected]
 

woodsmaneh!

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Unfortunately, I did let them entice me with the low prices and the 100 in the account. but FORTUNATELY my papers were not to be sent off until this week. Doc's been called and put the brakes on

.Back on the hunt.
They may be back very quick, so keep looking but check back with them.
 

leaffan

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Are you saying that the European Pharmacopoeia has #s for marijuana and not just general herbs?
 
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