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Old 02-20-2008, 10:20 PM
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Default Ambitious first time gorilla grow.
Unfortunately i sold some drugs to a x friend who was working for the cops when i was 18. I did 2 then got out for 2 then went back again for another year. Needless to say i have had plenty of time to plan my first grow and i tell you i am very excited the time is finally here. Now I am out of trouble, off of all probationary status and i have my own place in the country!!!! A real good batch came around a few months back, probably some type of nuggs that got pollinated, but i saved like 40 seeds. I planted them in some soil from an old barn floor in styrophome cups in my closet and i made a make shift reflector with alium foil, cardboard and duct tape.I also lined the bottom half of the closet with foil also so with the light and make shift reflector lowered down it makes for a lil shinny room. Now I have 36 pretty lil babyies under 1 4' floresent ( two bulb) and 3 cfl's. Question #1 is that enough light and if so for how long (the babies range from 3/4''-2''at present)? I need to keep them in the closet till May. Question #2 is can i top the plants then clone the tops then induce flowering so i can weed out the males early? and can i do all that by may or does anyone know a time range it would take? I would like to not have to plant the males and waste time and energy on my gorilla grow. I have 4' by 2' plots (2 bedroom) on the side of a 35degree or so hill, its pretty steep. The hill runs parallel to a river that is about 100 yards away and their about 10-30' staggered up and down the hill from the flood plains. I call it Brier Hill no pun intended. I travel commando style through the rabbit highways up the hill from the flood plains though the brier bush so i dont leave any entrance ways to be spotted. Trust me you would have to really be prepared and have packed a big lunch to get to my plots. And thats after you applied waterboarding techniques to get the location out of of me. The brier/bush is about 7' tall so i cleared the low shit and tilled the dirt with a hoe for now. When every thing in the brier/bush fills in and greens and i plant my crop i will trim out above and around to get more light. The gradient of the hill is great for light cuz the 7foot of brier/bush in front of you is only a foot or so high because its down hill. So im gonna have great light, perfect cover, waters close but gonna be a bitch, enclosing plots with chicken wire to keep the bunny's off my goody's, The soil is great in the brier/bush but im going soon to get soil additives and im gonna dig out the plots mix ver/per and line the holes with plastic perforated then add a layer of stone then back with the soil mix. I have also placed logs down hill parallel with the hill at each plot to hopefully stop any erosion of the plot and hold back some water as it runs down hill so the soil can soak it up. I will get pics soon and i will keep posting throughout my grow. I enjoy sharing my experience as much as i enjoy reading all of you alls. Any ?'s just ask and any tips would be greatly appreciated, i am well read in the art of growing but this still is my virgin gorilla grow. Also can some one help me with my previous questions and this 3rd and last question. Is there any way to determine or sway the male/female ratio of my plants. Thanks oh and im a delusional pot head who drops LSD with rabbits in the bier/bush so dont believe a word i say.
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Old 02-21-2008, 09:05 AM
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Q1. it's enough till they're about 8 inches tall, which they should be in a few weeks. i suspect that you won't make it to May with what you have chief. although, if those cfls are high enough wattage...

Q2. why? you have 40, if half are female 20 is a fine crop for your first grow. don't get too bogged down and never get greedy... i'd suggest that you pack in some really, really Good soil and amendments to your plots and do some work there instead of cloning when you have plenty of seed. native soil can always be improved and your plants WILL thank you for it.

Q3. i've found some things that seem to give more fems but i won't call it scientific yet. it just works. i get about 9/10 female with my method. germ in 4" pots w/ pH around 6.9. 24/7 light. warm soil (68-72), cool air (less than 65 at all times). push to almost over water in 2nd week. you'll be able to identify the males by week 3 because once they recover from over water they get tall fast, leaving the fems behind.




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Old 02-21-2008, 11:45 AM
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dude right now im doing the same thing as you. i havent started my outdoor crop yet but im gonna take one plant grow to about 6" induce flowering to sex then revert it back to veg. if this works out good i can sex them and only put out females. check out my grow journal. ps...give me rep points if you likes
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Old 02-23-2008, 10:47 AM
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Default Pics and a few more Q's
Heres a few shots of my lil ones. About to move things to the attic so ill have some more room and less chance of outsider discovery. I created some more plots along brier hill. Got a few questions if someone wouldnt mind sharing there wisdom with me. Q # 1 i would like to know best and worst scenarios of how the plants will react to 12/12 lighting to induce flowering to pick out males then back to 24/7, i still have around 40 days before they are going outdoors and i would only do it if i can have them back to full health by transplant day. Q # 2 how long before i should move them out of foam cups and into smaller pots. Q # 3 is what do you think of planting in large plastic pots (10-20gal) with the bottoms cut out and placing them half way in the ground. half of the bucket that is. or should i bury them all the way? remember im on a steep hill side. Thanks for any help and will have some pis of brier hill and the plots soon.
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Aluminum foil = hot spots. You don't want to burn your kids. Get that light as close as you can so they stop stretching. Do you have a small, oscillating fan? Get it on them so they start getting sturdy stalks. If you're going to be holding onto those until may, so 5 weeks minimum, you're going to need more lighting. May want to invest in a MH or an assload of CFLs. Good luck.
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Yeah, i'd stay away from the foil

maybe mylar is a better option?
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Old 02-23-2008, 02:56 PM
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In Jorge Cevantes Outdoor growing book he talks about inducing flowering long enough to sex plants before resuming veg. growth but he also says it might cause the plants to flower earlier later in the fall. Flowering early might not be so bad but it might fuck with the over all quality too. He doesn't say.
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Dont bother sexing them dude. Make it easy on yourself and just grow strong healthy plants. When they get big enough to handle being outside just plant all of them. let them all do their thing, and once they reveal their sex get the males outta there! if you plant a good number, then youll most likely get plenty of females. Use good soil and get them food and water regularly. Id recommend buying good potting soil at a local store and buying plant food. Put the work into taking care of them and keeping healthy and you should get a high yield of buds. Good Luck
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Old 02-24-2008, 02:35 AM
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Try some in raised soil culture rings-these bottomless rings (fnur fnur)stand on the (well) prepared soil and are filled with the soil mix of your choice-very helpful if things are rocky, and they hold moisture well
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Yup your gonna need more light to make to spring, and get a fan [preferably oscillating] on them ASAP to strengthen up those stems. Wait to long and they will fall over.
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