Manure As Nutrients

Hey! I am planning on doing a guerrilla grow this summer in 2012, and I live near a stables and a farm who both keep a ton of manure which I was wondering if I would be able to use as organic nutrients?

yes, but horse poop is unstable and can be great or deadly. gotta get the old stuff and stick to cow and chicken and you should be fine.

or goat or rabbit..I have heard that rabbit has some of the highest nitrogen content out there...

wheezer said:

yes, but horse poop is unstable and can be great or deadly. gotta get the old stuff and stick to cow and chicken and you should be fine.

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Also Llama manure is great.

Just make sure its properly composted. I see no problem using horse manure if its fully composted... Im actually working on this now.

horse and pig shit are to acidic, bat guano has a high nitrogen level, but the absolute best is cricket poop serious as a heart attack i grew a plant a few years back with just cricket crap, shit was bomb smooth and sweet and had a smell like a stinkin as commericial grow after harvest

I don't know about pig shit, But the first couple years I ever started growing, the only thing I would amend the soil with was composted horse manure and a little garden lime. But you have to make sure the manure is well composted before putting in your garden because if it has not broken down yet it will burn the plants. I used 2 year old composted horse manure, that seemed to be perfect, the plants loved it. depending on the kind of manure, there's all sorts of nutrients jam packed inside of it. I would take a 5 gallon bucket of horse manure and mix that in the ground in one 2x2 foot hole. So one bucket per plant basically and the soil ratio in the hole is about 50 percent manure 50 percent original soil. I had no problems with burning or lack of nutrients. It might take a little experimenting, but horse manure can be used and it works great.

PEACE

LT1RX7 Drifter said:

horse and pig shit are to acidic, bat guano has a high nitrogen level, but the absolute best is cricket poop serious as a heart attack i grew a plant a few years back with just cricket crap, shit was bomb smooth and sweet and had a smell like a stinkin as commericial grow after harvest

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Horse manure is just fine if its composted properly just like any other form of manure/guano.
Its not a great idea to use pig/human/dog/cat crap because it can spread disease and parasites, but even these can be used if they are processed properly... not because its "too acidic". please.

Im going to have to agree with whodat here. I have a few close outdoor growing buddies who have been growing fire for some 30 years out of horse poop and native soil. Like my man said, make sure your mix is not to hot, and the compst cycle is complete, and your good to go. Growing in horse manure myself this 2012 season 1BMM

Manure is not just manure in a vegetable garden. Animals that eat meat or a combo of meat and vegetable should not be used in the garden but I don't think that holds true with weed as you are not eating it so I'm thinking not as important but what is deff. important is that it is composted prior to use or you will most deff. kill your plants. So use it but be careful to properly compost it to remove some of the heat.

I use composted chicken and cow manure outdoors. Everything a hen produces is gold, she works for scratch, tills the soil, removes pests, and makes a great disposal unit.

Horse manure is good to use it needs to set about 3 months this lets all the meds that they give to horses for worms ect to dissapte this holds true if you are going to use it for worm farming to make worm casting.

i would thing that cow and goat manure would have less nutrients than any due to the fact they have 4 stomachs and practically absorb all the nutrients before expelling them. but idk.

doser said:

Manure is not just manure in a vegetable garden. Animals that eat meat or a combo of meat and vegetable should not be used in the garden but I don't think that holds true with weed as you are not eating it so I'm thinking not as important but what is deff. important is that it is composted prior to use or you will most deff. kill your plants. So use it but be careful to properly compost it to remove some of the heat.

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I must be stoned here,but where does a horse or a cow fit in here ? They eat meat ?

TWS said:

I must be stoned here,but where does a horse or a cow fit in here ? They eat meat ?

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I'm thinking pigs, pigs will eat anything.
and hey, your not the only one smokin here OK? lol

Apparently they can:

http://www.explorersweb.com/polar/news.php?id=20323

TWS said:

I must be stoned here,but where does a horse or a cow fit in here ? They eat meat ?

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if your using horse watch what beding your using if its wood chips it will eat nitrogene for the first yr. straw you can us in 3 months

This is what works for me.

I use horse manure because it is free, having five horses we have an endless supply of the stuff. My wife also uses wood shavings in the stalls for bedding but this can pose a problem if it's not managed properly.
Wood shavings contain huge amounts of horse urine which leads to high levels of ammonia, I'm not sure if composting breaks down the ammonia but I don't take any chances so I spread the shavings out in an area on our property so the sun can break it down, then it goes into the compost pile. If you purchase or get your manure from someone else, look for bedding materials (wood shaving, straw and wood pellets) mixed in the manure, if it has an ammonia smell to it, look somewhere else.

Compared to the commercial organic and chemical fertilizers we have available to us today, horse, pig, cow, etc manure are not a very good source for nutrients, in fact if you're not supplementing your grow site with nitrogen you may end up with a nitrogen deficiency!

But I don't use it for it's fertilizing properties, I use it along with gypsum to amend our suck ass clay soil.

Just my 02

Why is horse manure unstable? I used horse manure and chicken manure throughout my hole season and the end product was amazing. My plants were perfectly healthy and had no deficiencies. So what is the problem with using it?

3waygreatness said:

Why is horse manure unstable? I used horse manure and chicken manure throughout my hole season and the end product was amazing. My plants were perfectly healthy and had no deficiencies. So what is the problem with using it?

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I wouldn't say horse manure is unstable but it's not the greatest source of nutrients.
Personally, I like a more controlled environment for my grows, if I want to give them a higher dose of N during veg I know exactly what concentration I'm giving and even more important during flowering when the plants utilize more potassium and amino acids I can directly focus on these nutrients in a controlled manner.

just my 02