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Old 12-28-2006, 03:19 AM
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Default Some advice for a newbie grower (Pic inside!)
Hey there Rollitup.org,

I have been reading through the forums and this site for a while now. It seems to be good with lots of valuable information contributed from experienced growers, hopefully some of them see this thread.

I have decided (read: convinced girlfriend) to grow one plant for personal supply. I'll keep this plant low, tying it down and making it kinda bushy. I live in the southern part of Australia and we are in mid-summer, so the sun is hot and the days long making it perfect growing weather.

I've read heaps of guides and have gotten to the point of a well established seedling.

I just picked some seeds out of some *great* weed I had, I am just going to grow my plant outdoors in a pot. I bought some Grodan cubes, raised my seed and now have it outside in a glass vase that sorta acts like a mini greenhouse. It's great because it protects the plant, keeps it a little humid in there but is still open at the top for ventilation.

The little guy seems to have been loving his new home.

This is where I turn to you guys and ask you some questions I have been getting varied responses to from other growers and online resources.

First up, the promised pic. Here is Mr. Youngun:


So ill just list questions, I know some may have already been answered elsewhere, I would love it if anyone could contribute personalised advice though.

Thanks Rollitup.org!

1) At what point do I need to worry about sex? Fairly soon (judging from the pic)? I only have one plant, so I really want it to be female. Some online guides recommended spraying the plant with a product that will ensure it turning female, although I can't recall it's name now and the site is down. Is there a magic, spray it on stuff that turns a plant female?

What do you guys recommned for getting making sure this guy ends up a girl?

2) We are going away for a few days, I am worried if I leave him for 3/4 days he is going to dry out and die. I am thinking of putting him in his pot (with potting soil) in the next day or so and using those water saving crystals to make sure he's happy. It's been hot here in Australia, no reason to expect the temp won't be around 30 degrees for most of the 3/4 days. Any tricks to keeping the Grodan wet for that long without an actual hydro setup?

3) Nutrients. I have been using one recommended to me by the guy that sold me the Grodan cubes, I think it's aimed at the vegitative state. I have been using this stuff about half or even less strength, and it's been getting great results. After some of this the seedling seems to grow more the next day.

Do I need another type? Keep going with this stuff for how long? Would changing to another nutrient improve chances of a female plant?

Keep in mind this is outdoors in a pot, getting nearly 8 hours sunlight a day. Full sun.

Here are some pics of the nutrient so you know what I am on about (while i've got the camera out )



As you can see on the front label, bottom right it lists NPK as 26:11:36
I assume this means Nitrogen, Potassium and something else (I wasn't a science major :P).

Here is a link to it being sold
HY-GEN GROW A-B 2 LTR

So any advice anyone could give about anything to do with my plant would be great!

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I've read heaps of guides and have gotten to the point of a well established seedling.

I just picked some seeds out of some *great* weed I had, I am just going to grow my plant outdoors in a pot.

1) At what point do I need to worry about sex? Fairly soon (judging from the pic)? I only have one plant, so I really want it to be female. Some online guides recommended spraying the plant with a product that will ensure it turning female, although I can't recall it's name now and the site is down. Is there a magic, spray it on stuff that turns a plant female?

Keep in mind this is outdoors in a pot, getting nearly 8 hours sunlight a day. Full sun.
You weed couldn't have been that great if it had seed in it, but anyways yes it looks like you have a well established seedling. She's in vegetative stage now. As for that stuff you spay on your plants to ensure all females, i never heard of it. Only 8 hours of sunlight per day i don't think that's too good.
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You weed couldn't have been that great if it had seed in it, but anyways yes it looks like you have a well established seedling. She's in vegetative stage now. As for that stuff you spay on your plants to ensure all females, i never heard of it. Only 8 hours of sunlight per day i don't think that's too good.
It's outdoors. How do I get more than 8 hours sunlight when the sun goes down at night?
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I don't think its the season for outdoor growing, not here in canada anyhow we got 3ft of snow LoL
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Your plant is a baby don't worry about the sex yet.

Put it in potting soil.
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Just a couple of things right off.

1. Get that plant out of that vase. If left in it in the heat it will surely fry up and die! You have to keep a fresh flow of air as well.

2. Your plant is stretching, bring it inside and place under a florescent light to slow down the stretching.

3. The one inch cube you have the plant in is ok, but at the size of the plant your roots have to be coming out the bottom by now. Take cube and all and place in a flower pot with a good soil.

4. 8 hours of light is horrible for a seedling. Get it inside under a florescent light with a light cycle of 18/6.

5. Get that plant in a pot before you go!

6. If by chance you do get a male, why not read up on crossbreeding and cross it with another strain of higher quality?

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Hey Meth.

There are some really knowleadgeable growers here but ...........
most of them are from the states and grow inddoors and don't quite underdstand the climate we have in Australia.

Have a look at my gallery, I'm in the middle of doing what you want to do.

I started with three plants, one ended up male, if I was you I'd get a few more going so you can kull the boys.

I have bent mine so they are low and inconspicuous but the good thing about bending is I now have about 8 cola on each plant that receives even sunlight.

While were on sunlight; my plants started with getting about 4-5 hours a day during this summer, it has since increased just because of the angle of the sun. They were growing sweet as with even that much light.

The indoor boys use big light hours cause they can but I'd guess that even a 1000W light won't give you the energy of a good ole Aussie summer sun will. My plants now get about 6-7 hours of full sun on a clear day, and where I'm at thats 99 percent of the time.

Next, use ferts 20/20/20 I use miracle grow for Veg, some say not to but you wont tatse it cause you only use it for vegative growth.

Use a a blooming fert once u get pistils, you'll find heaps of pics of how to tell male from female if you look through the posts.

You cant spray something on to make a female, you can put one leaf into 12/12 to see signs, but thats just silly for outdoor.

Grow more plants and kull the boys, it's 50/50. And, tell your g/f that and if your lucky you'll get 3 or 4 girls haahaaa, thats what I did!

Once you have your plants well established see if you can create a artificial nighttime using a box or something to give 12 hours of pure darkness, I did this for two weeks in the middle of Summer and now have flowering plants that are getting kick ass sun to grow my buds. if you wait too long before you get into the 12 hour cycle your plant may get too big, you dont want to have to tip a budding plant, do you!

I have one plant that I havent put into 12/12 and its about 2 foot high after two months getting only 3 hours of morning sun, I'll have to wait until winter (5-6 months) before it will flower.

Use big pots too, their roots grow really quick and can dry out too quick, I have to water mine every day now, mainly cause of the heat and the limits I have of pot size.

Fuck, cant remember many more of your questions now, by the time you have afew seedling you should have read every thing possible on this sight to grow big buds. This is my second grow and I'm kicking ass now.

O, and for bugs just use a very smal amount of dishwashing detergent with water and spray under leaves at night if you get spider mites or thrips. Not too much and dodge using any sort of oil, it tends to block the stomata.

Let me know if I can help any further!!!!!!

And, once I suspected I had a boy I pissed it off to a mates place, a week later it's flowers were out, that would have fucked the whole lot, keep a close eye on them!
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