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Old 05-26-2009, 10:46 AM
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Default Male preflower?
Hey, I've been growing this plant from a bagseed. It's on a balcony in SoCal. It's 3 months old. I was thinking that I wouldn't know the sex until late June, but let me know what you guys/gals think.

Is that a male preflower I see? Thanks for any input.
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Old 05-26-2009, 10:54 AM
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I can't see that good to tell.

I would be cutting the tops of new growth off, to double the buds now.

Topping, Pruning, Fimming
Essentially they are the same, "Pruning" and "Topping", just two different commonly words used. Fimming means a lot of indesriminate Topping. It is also known to some as "Pinching" as well. In this page it will be refered to it as "Topping"

Topping is done to increase yield and make them bushy, bushy, bushy, make more buds, promote "branching", and increase the overall yeilds of the plants. With higher overall yeilds, a grower will successfully harvest many more budds, or floral clusters, and from smaller, bushier and more compact plants.

To the indoor grower that does not use this technique, but allows their plants to grow tall, it can be a waste of their artificial lighting, and growing spaces potential. With its own natural growth pattern, and without the benifit of topping, your lady will have one main central "khola" budd, at peak flowering. Several other small branches will grow outwards, down its main stalk, with much smaller budd topps.

The natural growth pattern is to grow upwards at its main stalk. From this main central stalk will begin to grow side branches. The side branches come out as tiny shoots with leaves, and usually there are a pair of them on opposite sides of the main central stalk.

When the seed leaves have long dyed off on the main stalk. The first true seed leaves commonly can or will, wilt, dry up, or dye off of the plant as well. (the little round ones) Once healthy new vegative growth begins the rate of growth can be very fast, with excellent lighting supplied.

As the new growth increases the light reaching the lower portions of the plants becomes less. Thus it is common to see first leafs wilting and dying ect. Growers that see leaves wilting or dying, ect, will opt to pulling them off of the plants. It is cool to remvoe dying, yellowing unhelathy leaves. I NEVER remove a helathy leaf.

The main central stalk is topped of just above the branches that are coming out below it. A pair of scissors is best be used.
There are no rules to where you top your plant or how old it needs to be. As long as your plant has shoots protruding further down the main stalk it is able to be topped. When topped the growth of the plant will be concentrated towards the new, younger vegative shoots.

Once you have topped your plant(s) the younger shoots will rapidly begin growing. With the removal of the main central stalk the lower braches grow more. With topping completed we keep the plants on their regular lighting and feeding schedules.

Now each new shoot tip will essentially grow as the main stalk did, however the growth is not concentrated to only one central stalk. So as each new shoot grows outward new shoots will grow from each one of them stalks as well.

Therefore topping can be done again, and again, and as each shoot becomes a growing tip with other shoots forming down its stalk, it is removed. By completing these topping or pruning tactics, a grower can acheive any desired height, or desired bushiness, they desire in their plants.


I TOP and FIM, at the 2nd, 3rd, and 4th week, (I do a rapid Hydro grow) . Look at the results in the pic of my dozen stalks.







With pre-planned Topping and Prunnimg, I was able to persuade a plant to make 12 or 13, (depending on how you count them) to produce 12 oe 13 stalks. got about 46 inches tall, and produced 7 ounces of dried manicured buds.
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Maybe these pics will help you:



I am adding another pic to the collection.Male Female pics
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hermaphrodite





FULL MALE:




Start of male:



FEMALE:



MALE:



Male preflowers :




Female:
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Thanks Roseman! I think the 3rd pic best shows what appears to be one light brown pistil that emerged from a node. I did review the male/female pics you posted, but they aren't helping me identify this thing any better. I guess it's just a matter of time until I either see the pollen sacks of the male, or the emerging hairs of the female.

I did top this plant about a month and a half ago. You're saying that I should top again? Cut the tops off the new shoot growth areas at the top? I like the idea of keeping the plant short and bushy, but am a bit torn with having to place the plant under the knife again.
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Yep, I'd top it one more time, It will BUSH out aned make more stalks or ends or tips or colas.
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Cool, thanks for the advice. I'll top it today and post pics of the plant, and of the topped portions.
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Cool, thanks for the advice. I'll top it today and post pics of the plant, and of the topped portions.
Okay, let me know if I F'd this up. I snipped 4 separate tops. The center one, and the three immediately surrounding it. Here's the pics.

Any thoughts, advice, criticisms appreciated!
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I think I'm going to fim mine too. I'll be watching to see what your results are.

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hey.. just wanted to chim in and say that ive justs checked out this thread as i was trying to see the difference between male and female pre flowers when i ran across the topping and fimming technique.. this is my first grow.. mk ultra and diesel under a 250 hps.. i have also been curious about topping but really didn't have a clue as how to do it.. but after reading rosemans excellent how-to i had the confidence to try it myself.. i am pretty confident i didn't f anything up as my plant looks like what you did to yours so i can breath a sigh of relief.. lol.. looking forward to seeing the results.. thanks for the pics and article thingy.
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I advise you to visit a thread from Uncle Ben, on Pruning and Topping, he is the expert here.
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