I've always amended my soil with the cheapest stuff on sale but now a local place is offering Fox Farms on sale and since I've heard so many positive comments I thought I'd give it a try.

Question: They offer Happy Frog composition soil and potting soil. Which one?

This is for 3' deep holes with a 50% mixture of my soil and 50% commercial product. Grown from seed, in 3.5 gallon pots, now six weeks old, sexed at two months and ladies transplanted into the holes.

Thanks!

Happy frog is a weaker organic mix for seedlings / clones.

If you see FF Ocean Forest thats the one for growing out full plants, its a full strength organic mix.

If they only have FF Happy Frog you can add a bit more organics to it for bigger plants.

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Thanks for the response.

They actually have two Happy Frog soil products offered here, the organic potting mix and a soil composition (not shown on their website). Neither have the critter attracting ocean components of Ocean Forest, which is the reason that particular product is normally avoided by local growers.

I do a 50/50 soil amendment for drainage purposes only and my native soil portion is mixed with organic cow manure for the soil fiber value and limited nitrogen.

So you'd recommend the Happy Frog potting soil over the HF soil composition based on nutrient value?

I find that critters will stop digging in your holes after a week or two.

If you amend the soil ahead of time this allows them to explore the smell. They will dig up a couple of holes and when they find no food they will move on.

I use an organic premix of Bonemeal, Bloodmeal, kelpmeal and Guano.

Usually the next day a couple holes are dug up. No biggie.

But it would be dangerous to put seedlings in a smelly mix like that right away


You may need more food then manure and whats in the happy frog mix, depends on how big your going.

You could water with teas i guess.

I assume happy frog soil composition is the same organics as happy frog potting soil. One being for mixing in a garden and the other for using in pots.

If your going in ground Soil Composition maybe the better choice.

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We get 6-8 foot plants and heavy yields from germinated seeds (a local 20-year strain with no fancy name) with no added nutrients other than the cow manure and cheap soil composition for drainage. Clones seem to max out at 3.5-4'. Deep holes with amended soil equaling large, quick root systems have been our best asset.

I think I'll stay with the soil composition.