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Old 10-20-2008, 05:42 PM
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Probably a mutated gene in some of the seeds.
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when my plants started flowering i started using a fertilizer with 14 4 28 npk. now i have 2 plants that seem to have what i call "vegetive flowering". my buds are all weak and thin, lots of wierd lettuce looking leaves come out of the buds. the leaves are long and many (they dont even look like weed leaves at all!! bright shiny green, short curved SINGLE leaves) , the white antennas (pistils?) are thin and practically non-existant. i have 2 plants acting this way, and the other 3 are fine. i just dont get it. i dont know if i should stop with the fert stuff i'm using or will i just be depriving "sick" plants of nutrients that may help them out of the problem. and no i cant change fert brand, my pot hobby is a "zero-investment" one (someone gave me the fertilizer). i've been growing for 4 years with great results, and this is the first time i've seen this. this is also the first time i've used this kind of npk. okay, so sounds like the npk right? maybe its even obvious, but has anyone ever seen wierd sick lettuce like buds like this before? its truly sad.
For flower you need highest P.... then K and lowest N.... I didn't read all so if a repeat sorry..... 10-25-20.. sort of ratio,..... I used a 10-52-10 this year.(other sold out)..
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Old 10-21-2008, 06:14 AM
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Default genetics
I personally am blaming it on both the genetics of the plant AND the fert (which by the way is called agroflash). 3 out of five plants put up with this fert well enough. so I'm blaming this apperant "northern lights" as being a very leafy headed plant to begin with. add my super leafy fert and presto, they just didnt go well together. I'd like to know if anyone knows any good deals for buying seeds online. I need to know what company i can trust, what strains might be the best buy, and the legality of ordering them in france. I imagine with having amsterdam and spain just next-door that the shipping should be quick and maybe less complicated legally(as far as which countries they physically traverse whilst on route to my mail box). I've got friends back in the states that say ordering on line is risky. I dont know why but i get the feeling it could be less risky over here(i hope!). plus I certainly wouldnt want them sent directly to my house.. just the idea of paying already pisses me off. then thinking of all the complications of getting good seeds to me just pisses me off more. well at least 3 outta 5 aint bad for this year. anyway, if anyone wants to talk to me about leafy buds, this thread is here. but as far as talking about ordering seeds i guess i should find another thread for that so as to stay on subject and to not piss of the admin/s here.

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After reading all the posts in this thread, I am leaning toward bad genetics also. There is something to be said for growing known genetics. I am in the US and cannot even consider buying seeds. I wish I could, right now it is not worth the risk. I was given a couple clones of an unknown strain when I started and sometimes get bud envy when I see some of these designer strains. The strain I have is a real workhorse and is very predictable. Lesson learned on unknown strains.
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Old 10-21-2008, 06:50 AM
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If it was good enough to clone, it cant be that bad.
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Looks to me like it has begun to flower and then reverted back to veg and thn back to flower again.
Maybe the clones were taken during flowering or the plants have been over shaded to often in the area that they are in.
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Old 10-21-2008, 08:12 AM
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10-52-10 sounds perfect for flowering...too bad i tested out that 14 4 28..i'll never touch that crap again. a lesson hard learned. in the npk: p is for phlower now i know infact, foolishly, i think i already did know and still just figured that just about anything would "turbo charge" my plants, and so tried what was at hand. a mistake i'll never repeat. I just checked out the Nirvana seed site link on here, 20-45 euros for 5-10 seeds promised to be all female. I think that and a bottle of flowering-fert special for weed could be a 75 euros investment...dont know if i'm willing to shell out money and take more risks for whats supposed to be a free hobby for me...hmmmm...dammit! choices choices...at least for the moment i'm smoking 24 7, which helps me cope with the confusion this may have been a half-baked harvest, but i'm still gettin 100 %baked!

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I still don't think that, with four years under your belt, you could have fucked up feeding these plants that badly. For one thing, if you're really 100% baked, how come you can still make sentences, huh?
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my dad was a tattooist/IBM'er. i was born in 74 in a cloud of pot smoke with a keyboard in my crib so tactile typing is up to par, even whilst baked
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my dad was a tattooist/IBM'er. i was born in 74 in a cloud of pot smoke with a keyboard in my crib so tactile typing is up to par, even whilst baked
I'd say that qualifies him,
 

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