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Old 08-16-2008, 11:23 AM
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Default Using Fox Farm Ocean Forest Soil.
When going the soil route. I decided to purchase Foxfarm ocean forest soil. The guy at the store said its the best soil you can BUY available.

How do you feel about FF Ocean forest soil. It looks good, however as a beginner what line of nutrients do you recommend? I am going for taste/yield being important. I hear mix reviews on diffrent lines of products.

I am currently growing big bud strain and several other unknown high quality seeds. I have not purchase any nutes and was not sure how I wanted to go about doing it.

What would you recommend, I prefer something organic and natural.
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Old 08-16-2008, 06:02 PM
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the most important thing for soil to do is get your plant through the beginning of its live and through some of the vegetative state. Foxfarm is the SHIT for this in my experience with about 5 different soils. Taste and yield have more to do with the nutes you give your plants along the way, especially in flowering.

I definitely endorse foxfarm ocean forest or whatever its called. I wouldn't use anything else.
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Old 08-17-2008, 04:08 AM
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I heard FF soil used to be the shit but now it's not nearly is good. The dude at my hydro shop heard that same thing. I heard on here that he ran out of land so now he doesn't use as much soil. Roots is supposed to be the new really good soil. FF has both the Happy Frog and Ocean Forest soil along with a couple other more specialty stuff. I've also heard that the Happy Frog is better because it's less likely to burn your plants, as the Ocean Forest contains a lot of nutes. Word of advice, don't add any nutes for the first two weeks. It might be best to go with the FF liquid nutes, afterall you are growing with their soil. Another good line of nutes would be the Botanicare Pure Blend. Botanicare is organic but the FF liquid nutes are close but not totally organic. If you go with the Botanicare only use 1/3 to 1/4 of the strength that they recommend. All nute manufacturers tell you to use way to much. One good thing about the FF liquid nutes is that it's pretty f'ing hard to kill your plants if you give them too much. I saw a grow once where the guy only used the FF soil and never added any nutes and ended up getting pretty good results. Always remember when you're starting out that when it comes to nutes, less is more. You also might want to get some perlite and add a bit of it. That will help you from f'ing up and overwatering.
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I would mix it with perlite, and i dont think you have to worry about nutes for atleast a month
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i just grew in ff ocean forest and used the ff line of nutes. and it came out great 2oz off each plant i did mix my soil though with a bag of perlite and 3 cocotek bricks per bag of soil. i fed full strength every water after the first week.i flushed for 1 week the bud was delicious and dense i grew purple princess ak and bubbleberry the trick is the ff big bloom it has batguano and worm castings its great i love fox farm
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I just bought FF Big bloom. I updated my journal, and got my seedlings into there 5 gallon buckets mixed with ocean forest soil and perlite.

I was told to use big bloom at 1/2 teaspoon per gallon. Any recommendations? I am going to keep at that and water every other day and wait till the seeedlings adapt to the soil. The soil already has alot of nutes for them to thrive on, so I will wait for them to do there thing and pick up more roots.

You use full strength, when you do what do you keep the ph as well ratio per gallon? I tested the distilled water and the water was at the ideal ph I already wanted.
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i dont ph because the soil and nutes are ph balanced. if you go by the directions on the bottles youll get much better results if you go with all three of the ff nutes the grow big ,then the tiger bloom and use the big bloom during flower with the tiger bloom
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Yea your right, it has that dolcomite lime I believed I might I of misspelled that. Anyways, I hear different things, ultmiately I may wait till I get this first grow out my way. I will be experimenting though to see how the nute will work. I figured i May go with ff all the way on this grow. I think that ff line will work very well when using there soil and nutes
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i dont ph because the soil and nutes are ph balanced. if you go by the directions on the bottles youll get much better results if you go with all three of the ff nutes the grow big ,then the tiger bloom and use the big bloom during flower with the tiger bloom
You're right that the soil is pH balanced but wrong about the nutes being balanced as well. I've used their three part liquid nutes before (Tiger Bloom, Grow Big and Big Bloom) and you definitely have to adjust it. It even says on the Tiger Bloom bottle that "It is formulated with a low pH to maintain stability in storage and keep micronutrients available." Then it later goes on to say, "raise the pH to the desired level of between 5.8 and 6.3. Add a pH up adjuster." If you use distilled water and add the recommended strength nutes then you're pH will be way too low!As a general rule of thumb you want to keep your nutes at 6.5-7.0 when growing in soil and 5.5-6.2 for hydro. Usually hydro is best at 5.8 and then you want to lower to 5.7 or 5.6 during flowering. But I only lower if I start to see an iron or zinc deficiency.
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