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on my budget.....

Is there a difference between the budswell and any other guano on this page that is half the price? Heard really good things about seabird guano. I understand that budswell is comprised of both seabird and bat guano as well as other things.

Am I going to be missing much based on anybody else's experience if I go with something else on this page?

PLUS....

whats the word on soil secrets? Ambrosia and nectar look amazing. Can't imagine finding anything cheaper. Any experiences to share?

Preflower week is next week, so I gotta order in the next couple of days to have a phospho fertilizer!!!

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bump.... I know there are other threads on this, but I really want to know more about soil secrets.... practically no unbiased reviews out there

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The most popular here seems to be FoxFarm Ocean Forest... I can't get that...
For 6+ years I've used a premium soil mixed with pro-mix (or perlite) at a rate of 50-50% for good drainage... All those other additives may work great.. but experience using them may come at a high price, and a lot of screwed up plants... ..if your budget is tight...use just what I'm using.... For 6 X 6FT+ I spent $28.00 on soil and mix........

I use budswell and it works great. And for soil I use miracle grow moisture control with added perlite, blood meal, and bone meal. Hope i helped

Tom

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Budswell sounds amazing.

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Drumsintown.. Glad to see you hitting the Organic Threads. The answer to your question. Budswell is just a flashy name. Any of the grow or bloom bat guanos on that page will help grow some great plants / buds.
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The key to using Bat Guano, knowing your limits. It works best as a tea in my opinion. You can mix 2 to 4 (level not heaping) tablespoons of it to a gallon of unchlorinated water, give it a shake, let it sit over night, repeat for a couple of days or bubble it using a cheap aquarium air pump / air stone for a day.
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Water in your tea, one quart per plant, every two weeks. By starting low & building slow - you will not shock your plants or mess up your pH. I put the left over crud from my teas in a compost pile, or you can divide up the curd between 4 or more plants.
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Guano Teas...are great fertilizers / amendments.
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Hope this helps...
Keep it Real...Organic.....
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OSG, that is a great response, and exactly what I was looking for.

Twisty... I went with ocean forest because it seems to incorporate everything I was taught to use in a soil mix.... But don't want to fuck with buying and mixing myself. I decided to go with something that is simple and premade. If I spend 40 dollars on soil (one and a half bags per 6-3 gal pots) per half to whole pound harvest, I am not hurtin' too bad. Saves me alot of gripe considering the only labor is the transplant and the mix in of additional perlite and dolomite lime
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I think based on what I've seen in the plants response that I am going to continue to use the ocean forest.... I think this time around I am between the dry bar bat guano and the super swell... Sure it doesn't really make a shit's difference (someone kick me in the nuts for that one) which one I use so long as I administer a good healthy amount of phosphorous as well as micronutes to the plant.

Definitely gonna try out the soil secrets, as it is the cheapest innoculant (with humic acid to boot) I have seen yet that appears to be followed by great results.

Thanks for the response....

Much appreciated

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Drumsintown That Ocean Forest has a great ingredients list. I'm sure your girls will love it & reward you with some fat, frosty buds.
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It's so well made, it would be hard to duplicate any cheaper - really. Especially with what gas costs - all that running around to get ingredients could bankrupt a guy.
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Adding the extra pertilite is a good move. I've read a few threads where guys add pertilite & a little extra peat moss to stretch it out a bit.
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When I looked at that HTG Supply link, I didn't check out what their shipping cost was. I've bought bat guano on Ebay for $ 5 for 1/2 pound of High N (Grow) & 1/2 of High P (Bloom) plus $ 5 shipping. It was really good stuff, you might want to give it a look. It's from Blue Mountain Organics, they are the ones who make Super Plant Tonic. If the HTG Supply has better shipping rates though, their stuff looks good too.
I always shop around too, I live on a budget. I've got teenagers - Man want to talk about an expensive grow - teenagers cost $$$$$$
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Keep it Real ... Organic ...
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While you're online let me ask you this.... When you say to use the crud in your compost, do you actually mean to strain it out with a stocking before using the tea, or just let it settle.... I noticed your post in the organic tea for flowering thread saying that you aren't for it....

I think I am about to mix up a little bit of worm castings, kelp meal, and bat guano (dr earth on the kelp and bat guano) for tea to bubble tonight to give a good solid nitrogen boost to the plants....

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Drumsintown Your tea sounds good. I let my ingredients free float, so they mix better with the water. I just let mine settle for about an hour, then water it in. When I get to the bottom, I put the crud & last 1/2 of water in my compost barrel - most of the time.
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You can divde the crud up between four or more plants and that's fine too. It's just a personal preference, cause I always have some compost going. Which I use later for compost tea. I reuse everything I can.
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Hope this helps...
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