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Old 07-27-2008, 01:08 PM
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OK, you've been reading the Organic Threads and have decided to make up some Organic Tea for your plants.
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How do you do it - Here's how: There are two ways

Get a clean container ( a bucket, a pail or large jug ), add a gallon of unchlorinated water, pour in what ever manure you intend to use. Bubble it with a cheap aquarium air pump / air stone for two days. Turn off pump, let settle for one hour & it's ready to pour into your feeding container.
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Now, some people put their manure in a sock of some sort, like an old sock, panty hose or a old pillow case. That is OK, but I like the extra manure to water interaction you get from direct contact. More surface area exposed - more nutrients transferred.
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Get two similar size containers ( a bucket, a pail or large jug ), add a gallon of unchlorinated water, pour in what ever manure you intend to use. Pour it from one container to the other a couple of times - twice daily for three days. Let settle for one hour, pour into your feeding container.
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With both methods - pour the left over crud into your Compost Pile or Barrel. To be a true Organic Grower - you must have some Compost going all the time - it's a requirment to be in the Club...LOL...
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See, not hard, pretty cheap & as you will see, a very effective way to feed Mary a well balanced diet.
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Of course, your containers can be much larger, so can your mixes. 5 gallon buckets work well & allow you to mix up larger batches quite easy.

Common Mixes (I use - I don't buy into the more is always better thing.) -

Bat Guano (Either - Higher N or P) 2 to 4 tablespoons per gallon of water.

Bunny Poop - one cup per gallon of water.

Cow Manure - three cups per gallon of water.

Chicken Manure - one cup per gallon of water.

Worm Castings - 4 tablespoons per gallon of water (people argue about this one the most0. They say more, more is better. I disagree - the NPK value of Worm Castings is only .1 % N (soluble) & .9 % (slow release) with a NPK value of only 1-0-0 Worm Castings will not be adding any real amounts of NPK. What they will add - trace minerals & benefical microogranisms (good bacteria & fungi) so, 4 tablespoons gets the job done.
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Old 07-27-2008, 01:18 PM
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Where abouts do you find your worm castings? Or do you have a worm farm? I looked at the nursery and Home Depot and they had never heard of it. Is there something I'm missing?

Another question: Do you mix ALL of that together, or are they individual mixes by themselves? Would it hurt to put them all together? Considering the NPK of all, of course.
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Where abouts do you find your worm castings? Or do you have a worm farm? I looked at the nursery and Home Depot and they had never heard of it. Is there something I'm missing?

Another question: Do you mix ALL of that together, or are they individual mixes by themselves? Would it hurt to put them all together? Considering the NPK of all, of course.
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Most good Garden Centers carry them, some Walmarts do, any respectable Nursery, and you can even order them off Ebay - if they are, no where to be found, where you live.
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I have my own worm bin - I vermicompost.
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Yes, I do combine things. It just takes simple addition to determine the final NPK value. Just add the NPK values, of each manure you add, all together to get your final numbers.

Add each of these at the rate of one cup, per gallon of unchlorinated water - unless noted otherwise.

Source N P K

Rabbit manure 2.4-1.4-.6
Cow manure (dairy) .6-.2-.5 Both cow manures (3) cups per gallon.
Steer manure (beef) .7-.3-.4
Chicken manure 1.1-.8-.5
Horse manure .7-.3-.6
Duck manure .6-1.4-.5
Sheep manure .7-.3-.9
Worm castings 1.0-.0-.0 (4) tablespoons per gallon
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See not hard, just basic math....
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Ok & one more just for fun : Elephant Poop is 1-.9-.6 on average (plus it is almost odor free).
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It does help! I was unsure of mixing them together. I'm trying to keep it simple + cheap this round considering I'm in a rental, and growing in a closet. I'm just using the worm poop fertilizer that comes in a spray bottle from TerraCycle, since I couldn't find anything else with worm castings in it. Heres's a link: TerraCycle Inc . I read on an earlier post in some other category that mixing molasses and worm poo with your water would make some sort of bacterial foam on top, and I have done so, but now it's unclear if I should skim this crap off, or pour it right in? Does this happen with other emulsions?

My experience with organic fertilizers is slim to none, as I started as a MG grower, as many do, and I sincerely thank you for your advice! You're pointing me in the right direction. So far, this grow is completely organic, and doing much better than the others, naturally. Pun intended.
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It does help! I was unsure of mixing them together. I'm trying to keep it simple + cheap this round considering I'm in a rental, and growing in a closet. I'm just using the worm poop fertilizer that comes in a spray bottle from TerraCycle, since I couldn't find anything else with worm castings in it. Heres's a link: TerraCycle Inc . I read on an earlier post in some other category that mixing molasses and worm poo with your water would make some sort of bacterial foam on top, and I have done so, but now it's unclear if I should skim this crap off, or pour it right in? Does this happen with other emulsions?

My experience with organic fertilizers is slim to none, as I started as a MG grower, as many do, and I sincerely thank you for your advice! You're pointing me in the right direction. So far, this grow is completely organic, and doing much better than the others, naturally. Pun intended.
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TerraCycle is pretty good stuff, keep using it. The unsulphured molasses is also a favorite of mine. The NPK of one ounce to one gallon of unchlorinated water is 5-1-3. Decent numbers, with an added bonus -trace minerals.
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Don't fear the foam - use it. Just the byproduct of Bioconversion ( a fancy word ) for little micro-beaties (bacteria & fungi) eating & pooping. Naturally, what ever comes out of their south end - is very, very tiny (highly soluble). So, your plants can suck it right up, with ease.
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When making your teas - you will always end up with foam (or big ass bubbles sometimes) on the top. Don't worry about them. Skimming them off if OK, using them is OK. Pouring what you make throught a paper coffee filter is OK. Since, the stuff your plants are really going to use, are small enought to pass through that filter anyway. I take all the left over crud & put it in my compost barrel. Since, your in a rental - just flush it. It will benefit some plant somewhere down the line.
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Allright, kewl. I figured the foam wasn't bad considering what made it. Thank you for all of your help, man. I'll mail ya a when everything is done
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Is also a good idea to add an oz of Organic Molasses to your mix to feed the good bacteria.
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Is also a good idea to add an oz of Organic Molasses to your mix to feed the good bacteria.
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SimpleSimon You bring up an excellent point. I got so busy typing about the different manures - I neglected the molasses.
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Unsulphured Molasses is cheap, available at most grocery stores & is easy to use. You add one ounce to each gallon of unchlorinated water. This produces a NPK value of 5-1-3 on average. The keys are unsulphured molasses & unchlorinated water. This makes an excellent low grade, all natural fertilizer, feeds the micro-beaties (good bacteria & fungi) in your manure tea mixs & adds some trace minerals -which is an added bonus.
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If you plant to foliar feed, just use only half as much molasses.
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Jan The answer to your question is: Organic Teas are great for the veggie growth phase & pre-flowering. After that, I do not foliar spray them, I only water them in. I don't want to risk Bud Mold. Plus, when Mary starts pumping up her trichromes they act like velcro - holding onto to things.
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I just think it's best not to foliar feed, as a rule, after preflowering starts.
Some people will disagree, but someone always does.
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