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Old 08-10-2008, 04:09 PM
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Very helpful thread. You are the man, Ohso. Thanks for taking time to break things down for us organic noobs.
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Thanks for the info. Now I want to get some chickens and rabbits. Do you use this for every watering for soil? Do you ever make tea with compost out of your vermicomposter?
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Thanks for the info. Now I want to get some chickens and rabbits. Do you use this for every watering for soil? Do you ever make tea with compost out of your vermicomposter?
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Napalesegrizzly23 I water weekly and fertilize with tea every two weeks, throughout my grow. Overfertilizing & Overwatering are the two biggest mistakes people make. By doing it this way, I avoid both.
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When you grow Mary, each strain, has a preset gentic potential. No magic fert can push it beyond it's potential. You just want to reach it's potential, not lode up it's tissue with NPK it can't use. That equals - slow growth & chemical tasting buds... Yuck...
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I use teas made with bunny manure, worm castings, molasses & high N bat guano for veggie growth. I switch to worm castings, molasses & high P bat guano tea for flowering. The worm castings are from my own worm bin.
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For veggie growth I try to keep the NPK at around 4-3-4 to 8-4-6, during flowering I switch to an NPK of 1-7-0 to 2-8-6.
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The key with Organic nutes is to start low, and build up slow & steady. Because all Organic fertilizers have additional NPK in them, which will continue to break down over time.
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Chemical Ferts are too soluble, they are absorbed quickly, but also leach out quickly. So, when you use chemical ferts you have to apply them more often. They have no staying power and if over used - they toxify your soil & plant much quicker than Organic Ferts.
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So, No Mega-Chemical Ferts or chemical ferts period, for me. I only grow in soil, organically. The only thing I use out of a bottle is Super Plant Tonic made by BMO. It makes your plants rootball massive, which equals - reaching maximum potential - aka - Fat, Frosty Buds...& It's all Organic.
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Angus You are quite welcome. I am always glad to help anyone switch to Organics.
It's just a better, simpler way to grow. & Cheaper most of the time.
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Where abouts do you find your worm castings? Or do you have a worm farm? I looked at the nursery and Home Depot and they had never heard of it. Is there something I'm missing?

Another question: Do you mix ALL of that together, or are they individual mixes by themselves? Would it hurt to put them all together? Considering the NPK of all, of course.
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Don't know how widely regarded ol' jorge cervantes is on this site for viability, but I came across this in his indoor bible (my first resource when I am in doubt).....

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Virtually all liquid foliar fertilizers including fish emulsion, conain nitrates. the leaves of cannabis convert nitrates to carcinogenic N-nitrosamines! This is why I can no longer reccomend foliar feeding to "green up" a garden.
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Don't know how widely regarded ol' jorge cervantes is on this site for viability, but I came across this in his indoor bible (my first resource when I am in doubt).....

Foliar Feeding

Virtually all liquid foliar fertilizers including fish emulsion, conain nitrates. the leaves of cannabis convert nitrates to carcinogenic N-nitrosamines! This is why I can no longer reccomend foliar feeding to "green up" a garden.
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Drumsintown The truth is any extra fertilizer fed to Mary - over the limit, ends up stored in plant tissues. Since, we smoke those tissues (buds / leaves) there is no way to get around it completely.
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Now, I have always advocated not foliar feeding the last month, because of the potential to promote mold. I live in the South & the humidity here is a real b*tch sometimes.
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All these Mega-Super-PowerLoad Ferts, with numbers that are insane, like 9-50-30 are the major causes of this problem. If you've ever smoked em, they taste like chemicals. I smoked some a bud was bragging on a couple of weeks ago. Hydro Grown using that shit, tasted just like Kerosine.... Yuck. One hit & that was it. I politely told him, no more for me.
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If you don't fertilize the last two weeks, Mary will break down lots of stored NPK and use it to finish buds. I am not trying to grow centerfold quality picture plants, so the yellowing leaves - don't bother me one bit. I've always found, by coasting home at the end. The Bud is Sweeter. Do you give up a little yield ? Yes, but so what. I had rather smoke a pound of pleasant tasting bud, than a pound & two ounces that tastes like crap.
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From what I've been reading recently on Vaporizers, I believe I'm going to pick one up. By not burning the plant tissue, you release more of the THC and allot, I mean allot less cancer causing substances. That's a plus, because I like to smoke a cigar, once & a while. Giving up half the smoke, would probably be good in the long run.
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Just my two cents worth.. & something to consider...
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My oldest son likes using a vaporizer. His mother has a problem letting what appears to be smokeable bud go without giving it another try.
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My oldest son likes using a vaporizer. His mother has a problem letting what appears to be smokeable bud go without giving it another try.
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I hear vapes get like 85-95 percent of the THC out, without the burn. Are you ever able to get a buzz off the left overs ?
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Well, I'm making a big batch of compost tea today. The compost smells great - nice earthy & sweet, so I know it's going to be a good batch.
This batch will be used to green up Ohsogreens lawn.
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I laugh at my neighbors, who pay a lawn care service $ 50 every two weeks to drop by and spray some liquid N on their lawns to keep them green.
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I think, with the electricity I'll using to bubble it - I might be out $ .50 and my lawn is nice & healthy.
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