I know that willow bark is one example of many sources (organic and inorganic) of certain growth-hormones that promote root growth and can be used for cloning, but how do these hormones affect a plant that either started from seed or was cloned but had already build an extensive root system? Do they promote vigorous root growth on any vegetative plant, or just unrooted cuttings?

not sure if anyone has any reliable source of such information, but I'm curious so I thought I'd ask.

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oh wow I think I found something important here...


doesn't sound like anything for novice growers to mess around with other than for cloning... could have the opposite effect you would be applying it for!

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sorry have only used it to soak rookwool cubes for cloning.

I would think it would be fine for vegging it will promote faster root growth and I'd imagine it would grow faster. Alphalfa has a growth hormone in it too if your going the organic route.

Willow Bark Extract ( very weak - aspirin ) is good for toughing up the plants immune system mostly - known as the SAR response . Some extra root growth happens regardless of how started, as long as the plant is still in the veg. stage. Seaweed extracts are very good for plants in veg., boost vigor, increase root mass and help keep plants on the shorter / wider side. I prefer seaweed over all others. Like quoted above it shifts the ratio of auxins to a more veggie side of the force.
Johnny-come-lately products like Bush Master (Humbolt Co.), that are way over priced are just seawead extracts at double strength - like Liquid Karma (great stuff) - is mostly unsulphured molasses. Both will drain your wallet, fast, both can be equaled with cheaper substitutes - like at Wormsway (www.wormsway.com) plenty of cheaper alternatives there, or search for Organic Fertilizer or Organic Tonic (Ebay) - if you find any made by Blue Mountain Organics - buy it. It's cheap & totally kicks...*ss..... The mychorrizal fungi in that stuff, will cause a plant in a 55 gallon barrel to get root bound.... Amazing - Hippie - Organics... & it's cheap..... Just proving more expensive is not always better....

thanks for the info!

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wormsay site won't load for me, I'll try again later - but I'll def. check out some seaweed based products and have a look around on ebay

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if you are looking for great root mass, and a wider above ground plant structure as well, seaweed bump

peace

Yes .. Seaweed extracts & Mychorizzal Fungi may revolutionize growing for the average joe. Just like, when hydroponics hit the scene in the 80's. Some, things will stand the test of time; and stay on top. Like Aerosmith, AC/DC & The Stones... I rocked to em' and now my kids do too...

Willow water----------aspirin---1 to 10,000 ratio or AN SCORPION JUICE. All do the same thing.