
05-17-2008, 04:40 PM
|  | Teaching How To Roll Mr. Ganja | | Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 1,233
| | Quote:
Originally Posted by skatterman420 dude, i got no problem with you vegetarians and vegans, but saying the world would be a better place and all this shit... come on now look @ our teeth for instance, we were made to eat meat and greens. BOTH. | Actually, we needed the extra protein from animals in our diet in order to evolve the brains we so carefully damage today. If we hadnt been omnivorous, things might have turned out differently.
__________________
I'm a woman! Not a  dude! And! This is a fantasy role playing site! I'm a level two plant slayer!
| 
05-22-2008, 07:38 AM
|  | 420 TIME Stoner | | Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: california
Posts: 421
| | homo sapiens sapiens is a omnivorous predatory species by nature like a dog or bear or any animal that hunts meat but will also scavenge and eat plant materials and anything else that is edible. one way to easily spot a meateater is the eyes and ears predators eyes and ears ussualy face forward for tracking and hunting down prey animals think people dogs cats lions groupers eagles etc.... the prey animals in contrast have eyes on the sides of there heads think horse cow goat mice etc.... and there ears and eyes have a greater field of vision and can swivel around for better 360 degree awareness. predators dont have these features as they are unneeded  | 
05-22-2008, 07:46 AM
|  | Teaching How To Roll Mr. Ganja | | Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Sunnyvale Trailer Park
Posts: 1,424
| | Quote:
Originally Posted by bicycle racer homo sapiens sapiens is a omnivorous predatory species by nature like a dog or bear or any animal that hunts meat but will also scavenge and eat plant materials and anything else that is edible. one way to easily spot a meateater is the eyes and ears predators eyes and ears ussualy face forward for tracking and hunting down prey animals think people dogs cats lions groupers eagles etc.... the prey animals in contrast have eyes on the sides of there heads think horse cow goat mice etc.... and there ears and eyes have a greater field of vision and can swivel around for better 360 degree awareness. predators dont have these features as they are unneeded  | Humans are much more like a scavenger such as a buzzard or hyena. The meat humans eat is dead for days/weeks/years. And cooked. Even forgetting that meat can't be eaten raw in America on account of the feces all over it, even if you slaughter your own raised animal-nobody is eating bloody raw meat. We are processing and cooking it to the point it's almost unrecognizable. | 
05-22-2008, 10:53 PM
|  | Ganja Smoker Pot Head | | Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: In the æther
Posts: 263
| | Would you eat meat if no animals had to be slaughtered to provide it and it was maintained in a sterile lab environment?
Check this shit out, guilt free meat: Lab-Grown Meat a Reality, But Who Will Eat It? : NPR | 
05-23-2008, 12:43 AM
|  | Marijuana Toker Marijuana Toker | | Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 199
| | i am not against the slaughter of animals.....well whale hunting isn't cool...or monkeys. They are too smart.
In canada there are small farmers who do ethical killing. The government is trying to stop it and have all animals....processed. In LARGE certified houses.
I became a vegetarian for the planet. There are too many people. Some of us need to eat less meat. So i switched. It takes 19 pounds of grain to produce one pound of meat. I also heard on CBC the other day that switching from a meat eater to Veg, has the same carbon impact of trading in your Hummer for a toyota Prius.
I believe that we should eat meat. But there are too many of us. And what the meat industry has turned into isn't ethical anymore. We used to have a relationship with our food. If you look at a cook book from the 50's it will show a cow, with dotted lines dividing up the sections. If you look at a cook book now, it has the meat cut, quartered and packaged. We have lost our connection. And its not health.
JMO (My GF is not a veg, so i cook her chicken from time to time, and i give my cat tuna)
OH! P.S. With the state of the oceans. Better to eat chicken then fish. | 
05-23-2008, 07:44 AM
|  | 420 TIME Stoner | | Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: california
Posts: 421
| | i agree with simple simon about the meat issue it is very costly and wastefull to produce meat for the current population. as far as humans are concerned we are the most highly effective predator this planet has yet seen and we are highhly adaptable killers. we have hunted and ate all known large mammals for thousands of years from elephants to whales the weapons and marks on bones from arrow and spear strikes are evident as far back as recorded history goes we are clever and also scavenge and farm but to say humans are not extreamly effective hunters is a stretch i think. it is believed that a number of the large mammals and some predators were hunted or outcompeted by early humans all the way to extinction in north america like ground sloths/saber tothed tigers etc... you can eat raw meat if you want we have been cooking for thousands of years because things are better that way and easier to consume and digest plants also. we use to eat things raw the appendix once helped with this and we produced stronger digestive enzymes thousands of years ago these traits are slowly going away because they are no longer needed. as an example dogs can bury raw meat and eat it weeks later without problems early humans also had this ability  | 
05-23-2008, 08:09 AM
|  | Ganja Smoker Pot Head | | Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: hickville.....
Posts: 332
| | Ok..I got a story for ya'all..give me some input and opinions...(no bashing.I really don't care what anyone else eats.) So I have a neighbor, her daughter is vegan and she has a little girl that is 7, we all got together one day haveing a cook out, they brought thier veggie burgers, cooked on a different grill etc. The problem I have is this 7 yr. old. She said: I don't like this, I don't wanna eat it. (refering to the veggie burger) Her mother say's..too bad thats what your haveing. this little girl wanted a burger..a MEAT burger, and they basicly told her NO..your eating the veggie burger, she went without food because she refused to eat it. I felt sooo bad for her, and I was a little bit pissed off about the whole thing, I soo wanted to slap this chick, because I just thought it was wrong, I mean she choose's to eat that way, but why force your child to if she dosen't wanna. She's 7.......let her eat what she wants. When she's old enough to decide if she wants to be vegan then let her decide.
__________________ Attention: Any reference to growing or smoking is purely my imagination | 
05-23-2008, 08:29 AM
|  | Marijuana Toker Marijuana Toker | | Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 199
| | I listened to nutritionist about feeding kids on Vegan diet. And you CAN do it. But they need so much more then we do, due to their developing bodies. I think i will be feeding my kids on a meat restricted diet, but not meat vacant.
However, about your friend. Isn't the whole point to having kids, to instill your values in them? i mean. I am not saying i agree but i can see where they are coming from. Maybe their approach was wrong. But if your AGAINST meat eating, i can see how you would want to pass that on. | 
05-23-2008, 08:59 AM
|  | Teaching How To Roll Mr. Ganja | | Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Sunnyvale Trailer Park
Posts: 1,424
| | C'mon dude. You don't want parents to tell their 7 year-olds what to do? Quote:
Originally Posted by growingmom Ok..I got a story for ya'all..give me some input and opinions...(no bashing.I really don't care what anyone else eats.) So I have a neighbor, her daughter is vegan and she has a little girl that is 7, we all got together one day haveing a cook out, they brought thier veggie burgers, cooked on a different grill etc. The problem I have is this 7 yr. old. She said: I don't like this, I don't wanna eat it. (refering to the veggie burger) Her mother say's..too bad thats what your haveing. this little girl wanted a burger..a MEAT burger, and they basicly told her NO..your eating the veggie burger, she went without food because she refused to eat it. I felt sooo bad for her, and I was a little bit pissed off about the whole thing, I soo wanted to slap this chick, because I just thought it was wrong, I mean she choose's to eat that way, but why force your child to if she dosen't wanna. She's 7.......let her eat what she wants. When she's old enough to decide if she wants to be vegan then let her decide. | | 
05-23-2008, 12:59 PM
|  | 420 TIME Stoner | | Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: california
Posts: 421
| | i dont have kids so i dont know it seems negligent to me the worst i have seen is trying to put dogs and cats on vegan diets this is particularly bad for cats i see it as animal abuse they are pure predators(cats in particular) and there health will suffer as a result. i dont care what people do for the most part with there bodies but some take it a step too far i think. at that age dietary protein is key look at average height beetween n.koreans and s.koreans same genes also the chinese and indians height in america compared to in there native lands. this has to do with animal protein availability. mostly sedentary people could survive as vegans just fine i suppose muscle tissue and hormone levels would suffer as a result maybe you would live longer i would rather be fit strong and die 5 years early and have good quality of life up until then but then again look at all the centarians (i think thats the word for people who lived past a hundred).i have read about them and many of there various lifestyles are totally random in diet activity etc... there seems to be no particular diet or lifestyle which throughly outdoes another. so i think you have to find what works for you as an individual. athletes and growing children need a daily supply of a truelly complete protein for proper function and growth in my educated oppinion  | | Thread Tools | | | | Display Modes | Linear Mode |
Posting Rules
| You may not post new threads You may not post replies You may not post attachments You may not edit your posts HTML code is Off | | | Come Check out a new Poker Forum for the online poker community
All times are GMT -7. The time now is 10:44 AM. |