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    So I was trying to over think Organics today. However I have no idea why I wanted to do this. But I did it any way.
    Lets say, a breeder does hydro. Makes their seeds, bags them sells them. Lets say maybe they where not organic. I guess in theory all hydro is not organic but lets not go there for right now. Lets say, maybe they ran a few different times to get enough seeds? By theory - the seed is not organic. Maybe the seed is now more suited to be used hydro and no dirt or outdoor?
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    might be on to sumthing ?

    dunno how much of a different it do make, but if I try to remember back to my early grow years, we grew outdoors with Bag seed`s or seed`s we got from friends and other growers, as we did`t had any RIU or internet for that matter (late 80ish/early 90ish) or could buy good seed`s

    I bet it was mostly/only Stavia strains and with out knowing I bet the THC was about 5-10% depending on conditions aso.

    but I do know that the longer you grew the same strain in the same conditions the better it got, and we where allways looking for growers who had seed`s that had been grown for years in the same similar conditions ..

    to day some old outdoor growers I know even mix/breed bought seeds with some of there old (+25 years) Strains that is used to be grown in Denmark (Scandinavia) in a cold climate to get there "own" strains ..
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    This idea and over thinking came to me after reading a lot of information about organic gardening / and labeling. There is a large fight about labeling food organic, but not using organic seeds. So this is where I started from....
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    I know what your saying I actually like the fact im using supersoil with tga seeds bc the soil method is at least the same and I feel theyd do better than if i used a different method. Not to assume but a lot of breeders tout theyre stuff as being grown organically.
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    Ok I may be getting side tracked but I have an argument/Discussion Id like to bring up. Again, forgive me for going off topic if I stray to far. I am growing PlushBerry at the moment in straight ffof soil. Now I have ALWAYS used this method to begin my seedlings. Ive battled in threads and comments left and right and Im constantly arguing that the ffof is perfectly fine and has never been to hot or burned my seedlings. This is of course, just my honest opinion. With all of this said, I have 9 Plush in 20 oz cups and half are looking burnt or deficient in some form or fashion. Im thinking its to hot for them .... Now we know Sub breeds in his super soil witch isnt to far off from the ffof as far as NPK values go, right. We also know that he only fills his pots up half way-ish and fills the rest with Roots. Now I dont know the NPK of roots but Im sure its just cut of some sort. So I say all of that to say this, " Do you think that Subs organically bred seeds are less prepared to handle stronger or 'Hotter" soils?"

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    Well like humans plants adapt to their envo. prehaps - if slowly breed to take hotter soils then yes. As south american plants, do diffrently then asian plants.
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    I don't think your over thinking it.
    Living sustainable or organic, we have to think about things like this.
    Organics or biology is soo deep in ways our minds can never comprehend.
    I heave theories that if a plant is brought up with chemicals, then it will be passed on to future genetics. We can see this happening to corn grown by Monsanto, it's genetics are spread through pollen, and all the organic farming happening around that monsanto farm will get pollinated by the chemical grown gmo corn. The organic grown corn is now tainted with pollen from Monsanto corn..
    Sadly it happens to people too. For example, diabetes caused by genetically modified fruit corn syrup injected food, Unfurtantley this can be passed hereditary.
    I know what I just said is controversial, but like I said in the beginning, biology is deep, everything is connected one way or another.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HTP View Post
    This idea and over thinking came to me after reading a lot of information about organic gardening / and labeling. There is a large fight about labeling food organic, but not using organic seeds. So this is where I started from....
    I think that fight has more to do with GMOs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by foreverflyhi View Post
    I don't think your over thinking it.
    Living sustainable or organic, we have to think about things like this.
    Organics or biology is soo deep in ways our minds can never comprehend.
    I heave theories that if a plant is brought up with chemicals, then it will be passed on to future genetics. We can see this happening to corn grown by Monsanto, it's genetics are spread through pollen and all the organic farming happening around that farm will get pollinated by the chemical grown gmo corn.
    Sadly it happens to people too. For example, diabetes caused by genetically modified fruit corn syrup injected food, Unfurtantley this can be passed hereditary.
    I know what I just said is controversial, but like I said in the beginning, biology is deep, everything is connected one way or another.
    The two things you just attempted to compare are not even close to the same.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OGEvilgenius View Post
    The two things you just attempted to compare are not even close to the same.
    Well thanks for putting down What I said, dick..

    Instead of giving a closed minded response, why don't you explain why?

    Re read what I said at the end, " everything is connected one way or another"
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