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Reply With QuoteTaking pics but having problems downloading with new laptop, need to get someone to fix it. Rishi looks the same as the Krystallica but a tiny bit smaller. Both are looking very well and handling the heat very well.Originally Posted by qaz321
I'm very interested in pics of the Rishi Kush! How's it going ?
Taking pics but having problems downloading with new laptop, need to get someone to fix it. Rishi looks the same as the Krystallica but a tiny bit smaller. Both are looking very well and handling the heat very well.
That's awesome! I'm currently growing some Rishi Kush aswell, but they're only seedlings as of now. One of the plants has a green stem, and normal green leaves, and the other one has a purple stem and purple spots under massive green leaves. They're on their first set, so I'm not sure if this is temporary, either way they look amazing
Keep us posted!
Day 24, 4/29
Five plants in the 9" area, sixth node leaves just coming out. Other three are in the 6 1/2-8" area. The 6 1/2" one is the one that germinated the latest and is much smaller. They look very good.
Picked up a 6" vented hood, 400 MH bulb, and a ballast that can be adjusted to 250 watt or 25% energy savings. Much better. No closet yet, just in the garage. Covered door windows with cardboard. Much cooler but even the 400 MH heats it up at night. Still under the mesquites during the day with early full, midday shadey-ish, 4:00 pm and after full sun.
Day 25, 4/30
About 10". I'll be topping this weekend, hate to do it to such pretty plants! Definately a first time parent.
Was going to do a 7x7 closet in the garage but might put it off till fall when it's cooler and less expensive to operate. For this summer I could just put them outside for 12 hours and stick them in the vented utility room at night. We'll see. Will still have a couple in the outdoor planter, which are the primary plants.
Day 26, 5/1
About 11-12" at the stem. Last watered 2 1/2 days ago and fully turgid. Low 90s, soil surface mid 80s but gravel on ground is about 110 and pots on sides are around 100. So the key here with pots is keeping the buckets cool as the gravel will get to around 145 in the summer I might use the cocoa fiber that was originally going to be used for top insulation in the planter as insulation around the pots. Remove the gravel and water the dirt for cooling, too. Use an area completely under tree cover, hardly any direct sun. These pots will be for flowering so I think it should work. So, 12 hours outdoors in the Arizona desert and trying to flower. Maybe I'm crazy. Any opinions are welcome.
edit:5/2, forgot to mention that on the one Rishi Kush pot that I put a 2 1/2" layer of Ocean Forest on the bottom started to display overfertilization (slight curve to left or right)two or three days ago. While I expected a response I just wanted to see for myself what would actually happen. It also tells me it took about four days for the roots to reach the bottom couple of inches.
Last edited by Hasbroh; 05-02-2012 at 01:31 PM.
Day 27, 5/2
Finally watered after 3 1/4 days. Very slight wilt during direct afternoon sun, 90 degrees. I'm not a fan of drying a plant completely out to force the roots to extend as I have read on this forum. Not knowing precise growing habits of cannabis makes for a lot of unknowns but it's also part of the fun. Shaded the pots today with some empty pots to keep them cooler, by about ten degrees (90) cooler than yesterday. Was going to wait till Sat. to go to the grow store for cutting supplies but will probably go tomorrow as these mostly little gals (I hope!) are growing too fast. Also need to get some tea making parts - will go the cheap route for now with a simple set up. Tallest plant is 13", Mr Wimply is 8". I think I'll not top Mr Wimply and let him grow naturally since he's small and can then see one in it's natural state, just not at it's normal 9'.
Curious to try various stages of harvesting. Harvest each plant at about three different states of maturity and keep notes on the high of each specific little harvest. Looking forward to it.
Day 28, 5/3
Just finished topping and using topped parts for cuttings. Topping went very well but I sure need some practice with cuttings, been almost 30 years since last did them in school. Was in a hurry to get it done and didn't do much research, just went for it. Ahh, well. Four plants were about 13 1/2-14 1/2" before topping and all were looking so good. The Rishi Kush that I added Ocean Forest to the bottom of the pot was on it's way to being the tallest.
edit: forgot to mention I top dresesed with a mixture of earthworm castings, Ancient Forest, and a little Happy Frog Potting Soil. Wet just the top to let soak and then watered plant lightly. Also started making tea with ewc and Ancient Forest but that's all. Need to get some mollasses to feed all the little guys.
I keep forgetting to mention that the back yard is loaded with bugs from adding about 30 bags of about eight different kinds of ammendment to the planters. This doesn't bother me as I enjoy watching the whole circle of life thing. Bought Neem oil but have refrained from using it. I'm not seeing any damage in the garden and there are tons of baby praying mantises, green lace wings and their larvae, etc. About seven big lizards, a bunch of quail, doves, woodpeckers, a nesting hummingbird, a hawk, two really big owls, and an occassional bob cat. Dig it. Too many scorpions, black widows, and rattlers, though.
Day 29, 5/4
Wow, those cuttings didn't last through the night, lol. I followed a knowledgable guy's advice but obviously did something wrong. Pretty sure there was too much new growth for one thing and I didn't feel comfortable with the process at all. I did make a cutting similar to the way I would have in school and it is doing great. Maybe should have had the confidence in past experience and just done it my way. No biggie, next time I'll be ready.
93 today, topped plants are fine and Mr Wimply is King O' Da Jungle at a strapping 10 1/2".
Day 30, 5/5
Whew! Was really worried about RIU being hacked. Glad that's over. 94 and windy today, all is well. The new dual central leaders are taking off. Went ahead and pruned all the vegatation off of the cuttings except for the tiny new shoots. They seem to be hanging in there. Haven't added mollasses to the tea yet, hence the lack of foam.
Last edited by Hasbroh; 05-05-2012 at 05:10 PM.
Day 33, 5/8
Did the tea couple days ago, nice response. Great response from topping at fourth node. Dual top leaders are about 4" now and third node branches are about the same. About half of the plants third node branches (5") are bigger than the fourth node branches. Tallest plants are about 13-14".
Next tea's ingredients will be:
1 cup Happy Frog Potting soil
1 cup Ancient Forest
1 cup earth worm castings
1 1/2 tbs. mollasses
This, plus repotting, hopefully will be all that will be used while vegging .
Day 34, 5/9
Five plants, 14-15", even Wimply is 15" but he/she only has a single leader.
Three plants, 11 1/2-13".
They are so purty, nice and full.
Hmmmm, I'm so tempted to prune the new leaders of a couple of plants just to see the new phisiology. To paraphrase, Mandala states that Krystallica handles multiple prunes well and still develops large colas from multiple tops. Still 5 or 6 months to go with the outdoor plants so shorter is good.
Two plants, 3 of 4 original leaves on fourth node have been displaying small edges of the leaves, about 1/2 each , with nutrient deficient appearances similar to low nitrogen. Browning now from edge. I'm wondering if it is a vascular cause due to enlarging dual leader stems squeezing the vascular system of the old leaves, depriving them of sustanance from the xylem/phloem? Or the dual leaders are taking their stored nutes? Purely a noob guessing here so any knowledgable growers please speak up.
Day 35, 5/10
About 15 1/2". Had company so kept plants in today. Made some tea tonight; ewc,Ancient Forest,HF Potting Soil, molasses.
Last edited by Hasbroh; 05-11-2012 at 01:14 AM.
You said there has been alot of wind didn't you? It might be wind burn, I got this indoors by putting a fan too close to a plant. On old leaves. It's no biggie, they will eventually die off, it could be from lack of water but your meticulous notes don't show that. Do you have mulch on your pots?
This just occurred to me... It could be a magnesium deficiency too. Mix some molasses in with the water and you should be good. Molasses feeds the soil and provides the plant with mg too. It really helps fatten buds up during flowering too
Last edited by ghettorigger; 05-11-2012 at 10:19 AM.
Show me something duct tape cant do.
Thanks for your response. Lots of wind every few days on average and the humidity has been dropping as low as 5% but the plants are tough as nails and show no stress in any way other than these three leaves on two of eight plants. They also get a fan on them every night.
It's a deficiency but the rest of the plants are rock solid so I won't try to adjust nutrients just for those three leaves. I have them in big pots and they get watered and a topical spray with a tea so the nutes are covered. That's why I think it's a structural response to the topping.
Day 36, 5/11
Big five are 16 1/2-17". Gave them a little drink this morning and put them in the sun on the gravel to see how they would do after staying inside for a day. Pretty hot, gravel about 110-120. Mr Wimply, the only plant not topped and the runt of the family showed a little stress. Moved them back under some light shade, didn't want to stress them too much. Gave them another small drink tonight as they are growing so damn much and tea won't be ready until tomorrow morning. They can't be set pot to pot any more as they are already 12-14" wide. And full, very full. These babies are going crazy and I will have to consider going to a bigger pot soon. Sheesh!
I might just go ahead and plant four in the ground before sexing and pull any males when the time comes. Then stick in some younger replacements if needed.
Day 37, 5/12
17-18". A solid inch a day now. My favorite two are only 15" but are so full and pretty. Watered with tea today. Will make a batch every 1 1/2 days instead of every three or four as it is warmer (99 for the next week), plants are bigger, and will need to be repotted very soon. Will need another prune as they will just get too tall.
Tea:
1 cup ewc
1 cup Happy Frog Soil Conditioner (no Perlite as with HFPS)
1 cup Ancient Forest
1/2 scoop Great White
5 gals. ro water ppm about 20
pH 6-6.5
ppm about 160
1 1/2-2 tbls. Molasses
Day 38, 5/13
My mentor suggested leaving plants in 3 gallon containers until they can be pre sexed so that then three or four can go into the ground and hopefully one or two can be potted up; outdoor light for 12 hours, and inside in the dark for 12. No lights for the rest of summer. Yay! And no more hanging out in the hot garage. Yay! It's about 90 in there at night now and it ain't gettin' any cooler, just hotter. And only one or two to carry outside very day. Yay! Of course, they will be heavy big ass containers but that's cool.
Bought a two outlet timer for the 400 and 150 lamps today and switched from 24/0 to 16/8. That will hopefully slow these little monsters down and keep me from being a little less obsessed. I tend to hang out in the garage too late and will check on them in the middle of the night, also.
Will hold off on building the closet in the garage until fall and can then play with other types of weed that don't need to handle high heat conditions. And then get a portable ac unit for next summer and do more Mandala strains.
Last edited by Hasbroh; 05-13-2012 at 10:31 PM.
A few dying leaves is no biggie. I had one grow go sour and i couldn't figure out why until I realized that my oscillating had a built in ionizer... Ahh technology.
Love this grow though, I'm in a semi desert climate and I'm actually considering tempe as a possible place to relocate too
Show me something duct tape cant do.
The leaves didn't die, the areas stayed the same size and 90% of the three leaves are fine. Would love to know the cause.
Day 39, 5/14
So I guess today is exactly five weeks of vegging and the big five are 20-21" at the branch (plus a couple of inches of leaves), smallest plant is 15" and the prettiest. If I hadn't topped off three or four nodes they would be about 28", I guess. Not bad, lol. They are all really nice and surprisingly green for plants recieving this high uv sun here. Wide and lush, not stretchy. I feel bad that I'm not showing pics of these little beauties. Soon, soon.
Will be 100 degrees today and the same for the rest of the week. Ugh. It's only friggin' May, for crying out loud! Used most of all five gallons plus equal water (50% dilution) on all eight plants plus foliar. Watered over a half hour to get a really good soak. Maybe a couple of the gallons for foliar on back yard flowers, tomatoes, and lemon tree. All of the plants sure do love that tea!
edit; almost forgot, a couple of plants had a few almost creased leaves up top that I thought could be heat stress. My mentor suggested it could also be cal/mag deficiency so added about an extra 1/2 tbs. of molasses to the tea.
Day 41, 5/16
About 100 today, 20-30 mph wind. My big wall helps a little to deflect the wind usually.
Decided not to keep in 3 gallons and shifted to fives yesterday. Sure enough, mildly root bound after 3 weeks - should have repotted after two weeks. Sure hope I can tell the sex really soon as they will be needing a bigger pot within two weeks.
No more indoor lighting. Yay! Put them outdoors full time. Yes, I had to go out and check on them at night with a tiny led flashlight with weak batteries. As soon as I can sex them they go in the ground. They are pretty stealthy against a five foot wall and interspersed between Texas Rangers, 6' tomatoes, lemon tree, Hollyhocks, and pyracantha. Partial shade till 9:00 or 10:00, full sun till about 3:00, then full shade from the wall after that. Plus they are sitting on a cool moist soil and the companion plants also help cool them. I have draped the monster tomatoes over the pots. Much better than 120+ degree gravel. Wish I'd done this sooner.
edit: gravel temp highs over last two days between 135-155! Moved just in time!
Speaking of wall, on the other side is a fairly steep rock escarpment leading down to a 20' wide and 6' deep rain ditch. After that is 50' of desert filled with cholla. Cholla is a very painful to the touch cactus. One side is another wide runoff area with a fence and an eight foot hedge so about a total of 12'. On the other side I do have an 80 year old neighbor that can see over into my back yard but she is very sweet and I take good care of her by doing outdoor chores every now and then. She was up all last night due to her fire alarms going off so I went over there today and fixed them. She loves me.Never the less, my planter will be shade clothed sides and top and 50' away from her property.
Made my first mistake last tea time. Used pH UP to correct too much vinegar and now understand that it probably killed the beneficial stuff. It was just prior to watering and wasn't much. I diluted the tea further and also pre watered the plants. The next day I repotted with Happy Frog PS, ewc, Ancient Forest, and a little of Great White. Plants look excellant so I guess all is well.
Bought a 20 gallon Brute trash can (All Brutes are food safe rated) for filling with ro water. Also to be big enough to avoid over filling and getting the garage wet as I have done in the past month more times than I would like to admit. So I over filled the Brute on the first fill. It's not the containers, it's the mind....
When transplanting I noticed more root growth on the bottom half of pot which, of course, is normal. Also noticed the top half of pot was dry (I intentionally repotted partially wet to see where the moisture was in relation to the roots). So I started doing two light waterings today and will water heavy tomorrow morning and one light watering in the afternoon. Next day two light waterings or a reasonable facsimile of aforementioned pattern. Reason: I think that with the super dry air here (5-10% lately) that the extra watering to the top portion will cause more root growth higher in the pot and make better use of the soil/nutrients available. When the males are removed I will do a cross section slice of the root balls to see how the roots developed. If this works out the way I think it will, for the next grow I will try a revamped watering method and also step up some of the plants much more often than usual. Say, starters to 4" to 1 gallon to 2 to 3 to 5 to 7 etc. around every week or so. If done correctly without stressing the root ball it might have an interesting result. We'll see. The pots will need to be 3/4" or wider all around to fascilitate adding enough soil for a weeks growth. This, to me, would kind sorts be a soil equivilent to hydro root development, with water absorbing roots throughout. Or maybe not.
By the way, I'm always amazed to see how rough most peolple are with root balls. The water absorbing cells are usually connected single cells that are very easilly detached.
Last edited by Hasbroh; 05-16-2012 at 06:09 PM.
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