Store Bought "Super-Soil" in the
The Grow Room forums; you can store it inside, its only snowed once or twice here. and temps during day are over 60 so ...
you can store it inside, its only snowed once or twice here. and temps during day are over 60 so i believe its warm enough.
Ok..I thought you were saying store it outside on the porch.
I got more dogs than I got friends.
it really pissed me off to see bagged supersoil this next to sunshine mix at the indoor grow shop. what if its a bad batch?
I think there is a reason they use the word "cook". The soil needs to be heated up to activate the microbes. You want to bath the soil in direct sunlight under a black tarp to really get it heated up. And I think 2 months is what is recommended. You can cook soil at a lower temperature but it takes alot longer.
Originally Posted by snowboarder396
"Think about it....if plants nutrient needs differ by strain.....wouldn't you need to tune the supersoil to YOUR strain...for it to actually max out the potential of the strain."
-That makes sense that you would need to tune the nutrients if you were growing hydroponically but I was under the impression that with soil the plants have some ability to regulate what nutrients they take in via enzyme excretions that interact with the microbes. I don't know how it works but I think with true soil(not soil fed with salt based fertilizer), the plants are able to take in only the nutrients they need and so it is often said that it is alot harder to burn plants grown in soil. So yes every strain will need slightly different nutrients but if all of the nutrients are there in ample supply the plants should be able to pull in more of whatever they need. The important thing would be only that those nutrients are there in adequate amounts and not in salt form.
I don't understand why cannabis is such a finicky plant... I thought it was supposed to be a "weed" ?
So it sounds like I'm not going to find a super-soil replica on the market then? Seemed like a long-shot anyways but worth asking.
I'll make some up and hopefully 70F F for 3 months will be enough to "cook" it.
So from the experiences people have had will super-soil bring me from seed to harvest without ever having to add anything but water? That would be what I'm looking for.... I would expect a soil should be capable of doing that otherwise cannabis would have gone extinct a long long time ago.
Originally Posted by Bonkleesha
Huh? why did that piss you off?
So you found "super-soil" in a store?
I would have been stoked to find that(that's why I made this thread)!
And what do you mean "bad batch"?
The thing is I'm sure Subcool doesnt have a copyright on the word "super-soil", so it could have been just any other cheap poorly ammended soil like anything else you would find at a garden store. Was it way more expensive than the other soils(cause I'm sure premade "subcool-super-soil" would be pricey)
subcool rec. for it cook for at least 30 days minimum. thats enough time to bring the soil and microbes to life. letting it set longer isnt bad only would help i imagine. the more microbes and the more alive the soil is the better. the plants take what they need and the rest stays in the soil..
And some strains may be different need differently thats why i mentioned feeding/watering with compost teas which would add more life/microbes and the nutrients your plants need
Letting it "cook" just means letting it sit. If your temps outside go below 45 frequently, then store it inside. I use a recipe similar to subcools and I don't have to add nutes, ever.
Bascially subcool's recipe is: Base soil, Worm Casting, Animal shit (preferably seabird/bat guanos if you're doing it indoor, if you wanna try outdoor, add some manures, i.e. chicken, horse, steer, llama, etc), fish bone and blood meal, trace elements (azomite, dolomite, humic acid, gypsum, Epsom salts). That's a very, very good and well thought out blend, and it is all you need throughout harvest.
Necessity is the mother of invention
Originally Posted by Thedillestpickle
its this stuff theyre selling : http://www.betterurbandirt.com/
im saying sunshine should be sterile, but what if they got bad compost or something... i just think they should separate...
Oh I get you. You don't want bugs in your sunshine
Originally Posted by Bonkleesha
As long as their are no punctures in the bags of sunshine than there should be nothing to worry about.
Well I'm gunna just go with the Subcool recipe, see how it goes and modify it as needed for the strain I'm growing.
I'll just let it "cook" at 70F as that's the hottest I can keep my basement where I would be keeping the soil. Hopefully it's not too smelly. I'll let it cook for 3 months though so the lower temperature may not be too bad since it will sit for some time before it gets used.
I'll also be mixing in General Hydroponics Subcultures M and B to add in extra microbes and I'll probably go out and find some earthworms to add in when I put my plants in the soil.
Buying premixed subcool's recipe or something similar seems unlikely but someone should get on that! there may be a market for that.
Just add water(and mollasses), that's the plan, Hopefully it turns out well
Last edited by Thedillestpickle; 03-17-2012 at 04:30 PM.