General Organics Product Line

Originally Posted by Kalebaiden

Yea it was, but all signs of deficiencies disappeared when I feed every three days with the full line of GO flowering ferts and there's no signs of nuking

Glad to hear it. I did some more research, and reading up on the whole PH deal and here is the General Hydroponics Blog with the staff answering questions specifically about this line.

Questions & Answers from the GH staff about General Organics Go Line

Comment from Legalize_Freedom
Time January 17, 2010 at 4:02 pm

would like to know thoughts on using chemical pH adjusters with the GO lineup. It seems to me that it would be counterproductive. I recieved my free samples of GO but I don’t want to use it until I’m sure on pH. I grow in soil, and when all ingredients are mixed together, the pH of the solution is around 5.3, I would like my mix to be around 6.5, but don’t want to use chems, and hurt the microbial life. Any suggestions? Or will GO be putting out organic pH adjusters?

Comment from Tiger Lilly
Time January 18, 2010 at 3:16 pm

Are you growing in soil, or hydro? In a healthy soil, the pH is being regulated by the plant in the root zone. Don’t worry about manipulating the pH and do not use chemical pH Up or Down products with your General Organics solution. Let us know how your garden is doing!

Comment from 247
Time June 14, 2010 at 5:41 pm

So, My water pH out of the tap is 7.5ish and when I add the Biothrive bloom, Bioweed, and Biobud the pH drops to about 4.5ish. Now their saying to add a mixture that acidic to the Coco coir without pH adjusting? But when I called GH today the woman I talked to said to adjust my waters pH before I added the Nutes. So I did. Adjusted to 6.0, and added the nutes, and it dropped to 4ish. Now can someone explain to me why I should go pour that into my plants that I love without adjusting pH up??? would that not just wreak havoc on them? I would like to know the hows, and whys. I’m not prone to jump off a cliff just because other people are. I would like a real reason. not just that ‘you just should” answer.
Thanx in advance for anyone who can help with this. I’d really like to use this line, but if I cant find any factual info on pH adjustment with this product I’ll unfortunatly drop the line for something else.
Thanx
247

Comment from Andy
Time June 16, 2010 at 12:51 pm

When using the GO line, pH adjustment is not necessary in a biologically active soil or soilless medium. When using Coco, it’s not a bad idea to inoculate with our SubCultures M & B to bolster microbial populations. The biological activity which comes from microbial life within the medium, consumes the food provided by the GO line of products. Once the microbial digestion occurs, exudates from the fungi and bacteria are ingested by the plant in the form of food.

This is different than feeding with traditional hydroponic nutrients, such as our Flora Series. When gardening with mineral based nutrition, pH is the basis for nutrient uptake. This is because the nutrients are ionically charged, and the proper pH is necessary for root absorption of the food. This is also why nutrient strength monitoring (EC/PPM/TDS) is a good idea when using a mineral based nutrient, whether in soil, soilless, or hydroponics.

With your Coco medium, be sure to use the CaMg+. You can safely feed at 2X label recommendations for all products in the GO line, except for the BioWeed and BioBud. They are enhancement products, so be sure to follow label recommendations.

Happy Growing!

Comment from john
Time March 3, 2011 at 7:42 am

I am using the GO line and everytime i mix my nutes the ph comes out to 3.5. Everyone says i dont need ph up with these nutes. Could someone PLEASE tell me why I should pour this acidic solution on my roots without adding ph up? It says the ph will rise on its own but, my roots will be exposed to the acidic solution while its waiting for the ph to rise. Again this is the second time i am posting this question, lets see if it gets deleted

Comment from PennyWize
Time April 25, 2011 at 3:14 pm

Hello,
You can bring it up a little bit if it would make you feel better, but it really is not necessary. As soon as the microbes start to digest the ingredients in the nutrient, the ph changes. The plant and the biology in the soil create and maintain an ideal ph. From all of the tests we have done and all of the beta testers outside of GH the plants grow better when you leave the ph alone. You must be using RO or distilled water for the ph to be that low. How do your plants look? Are they healthy?

Comment from BreedSuccess
Time June 25, 2011 at 10:25 am

When using the GO box should I be watering (just water, no nutes) between every feeding?



Comment from ViridisVixen
Time June 28, 2011 at 10:35 am

Thanks for the question. We recommend feeding at every other watering.

Hope this helps out the next person searching.

Thank you for the effort you put in but pH was never my issue.

Hahaha. Try about an oz of molasses in the water every three feedings or so. The sugars feed ur microbes and keep them happy.

i used RO water with soil and the girls were getting yellow by week two of flowering, and only got worse. definetly got fucked using this product line. back to AN for blooming

Originally Posted by longfirelease

i used RO water with soil and the girls were getting yellow by week two of flowering, and only got worse. definetly got fucked using this product line. back to AN for blooming

I've heard they suggest using tap water instead of ro as they may account for the cal/mag in the tap water

Originally Posted by Sparky22

I've heard they suggest using tap water instead of ro as they may account for the cal/mag in the tap water

This is so confusing. I thought the Chloramine/Chorline (You can't evaporate Chorlamine which my town uses) would immediately kill everything in the soil?

you can get organic cal mag, i use gen organics, and ive seen a little bit of controversy over the legitimacy of their organic claims. so im not sure how good of a suggestion that is, but its only needed once in a while.

Chlorine will hurt the microherd, but I doubt they are completely eliminated on contact... I mix in a bubbling bucket that has been out of the tap for about an hour, with periodic GWS applications and my girls are getting all the nutes they need at recommended dosages with the GO line. The only thing I can think of for the blooming schedule with RO is to double up on cal-mag... Also with fast draining mediums I feed 3 times before leaching the medium with tap water and my girls have been pretty stoked as of late.

Originally Posted by malignant

you can get organic cal mag, i use gen organics, and ive seen a little bit of controversy over the legitimacy of their organic claims. so im not sure how good of a suggestion that is, but its only needed once in a while.

They don't claim to be OMRI or anything, despite the fact that the product name is General Organics.

Originally Posted by JustAnotherHead

This is so confusing. I thought the Chloramine/Chorline (You can't evaporate Chorlamine which my town uses) would immediately kill everything in the soil?

Not all tap water has chlorine/chloramine, a lot of people have wells.