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    Quote Originally Posted by trichome fiend View Post
    ...the organic nerds say:

    The loss of aerobic microbial diversity alone (not to mention the risk of it's containing anaerobic pathogens and alcohols) suggests that compost extracts are not worth the effort. We don't consider it safe or advisable to use them.
    Manure tea, created by suspending a bag of manure in water for several weeks, is also anaerobic. Using manure is asking fro pathogenic problems and, especially under anaerobic conditions, virtually assures the presence of E.coli. We want the beneficial microbes to be working in our soils and to get these; you have to keep things aerobic.
    We know that its best to keep it aerobic after reading teaming with microbes. But what i am simply saying is that more research needs to be done on these before its lumped into the category of BAD TO USE. Especially like how you mentioned that farmers have been using these methods for centuries.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Da Almighty Jew View Post
    We know that its best to keep it aerobic after reading teaming with microbes. But what i am simply saying is that more research needs to be done on these before its lumped into the category of BAD TO USE. Especially like how you mentioned that farmers have been using these methods for centuries.
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    This will be a really stinky mess. You might get away with the bone meal and guano.....maybe....but the blood meal is going to stink to high heaven, like death!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Da Almighty Jew View Post
    We know that its best to keep it aerobic after reading teaming with microbes. But what i am simply saying is that more research needs to be done on these before its lumped into the category of BAD TO USE. Especially like how you mentioned that farmers have been using these methods for centuries.
    this WHOLE "organic gardening" needs more research and studies. i been sayin this. there are hundreds of species of fungus and bacterias that are good for plants but yet we can only half ass describe what 5 of them are and what exactly they do.

    the idea of anaerobic teas is not bad at all , thats why farmers been doing it. and my guess is that the good that comes out of it and the goodness of the earth will overcome the "bad" bacteria in the tea. most of us just know that there can be bad shit in the anaerobic shit so we stay away from it.

    i cant wait till all the studies around the world start comin in , in the bulk. i already use EM and i have to brew it completely anaerobically or it will go bad. its breaks down organic matter faster when starting with EM , but its not until the aerobic bacterias get to it.

    when you ferment your table scraps with EM in a anaerobic environment for a couple weeks , then put the shit into the ground , it will be gone in just a couple weeks.
    i believe em uses LAB (lactic acid bacteria) , yeast, and uh... i cant remember the third bacteria. ok i googled it , photosythetic bacteria.


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    I beefed up my soilless mix & standardized it so i know what the hell is really going on

    In veg i've been getting away with NO bottled....anything!

    In flower i alternate nutes / teas BUT i am trying these two ladies with JUST ACT's to see how my yields stack up. Here's my simple tea:

    5 gal water
    20 - 30ml molasses
    1 cup compost or EWC
    1/2 cup alfalfa meal



    Ladies love it!!

    Anyone using CAPS bennies? I've been meaning to order them, but my ebay account is jacked up....

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    Maybe easy on the Alfalfa during flower. Serious Nitrogen might hermie or burn the ladies.

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    Thanks & that's what i think/thought but I've seen some major big grows using this tea (pluse CAPS bennies) right up till the 8th week of flower, i stop @ two weeks before chop with the tea and will be monitoring strains to see how they respond, so far it = no more N deficiencies, lush green growth all the way through & large budset. Happy with the results, but closely monitoring as i'm not used to so much N in mid even late flower, but results have only been positive & I had always struggled with proper N in flower.

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    Having the N available isn't so much the issue. SuperSoil is loaded with it and plenty to spare when done. But it's locked away (stored) from the plant to keep it from harm, then fed to the plant as it needs it. The Alfalfa, blood meal, urine, etc is high, raw Nitrogen. Just have to go careful.
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