Flushing?

Nullis

Nullis

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The Fox Farm Big Bloom is organic, but that is the only liquid organic fertilizer that they produce. Grow Big is not organic, it is 'based' upon a few ingredients that by-themselves would be organic but it contains too many ingredients that organics growers will want to avoid at all costs such as: ammonium sulfate, urea, anything EDTA or ethylene-diamine tetra acetate which is a synthetic chelating agent. You will often notice in liquid hydroponics fertilizers that the trace minerals or micro-nutrients are synthetic and chelated with EDTA. Check your ingredients!

http://nofavt.org/assets/pdf/prohibited_allowed_material.pdf

The dry Fox Farms 'Peace of Mind' line of fertilizers are all natural.
 
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ultimatelysoothed

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Nullis said:
The Fox Farm Big Bloom is organic, but that is the only liquid organic fertilizer that they produce. Grow Big is not organic, it is 'based' upon a few ingredients that by-themselves would be organic but it contains too many ingredients that organics growers will want to avoid at all costs such as: ammonium sulfate, urea, anything EDTA or ethylene-diamine tetra acetate which is a synthetic chelating agent. You will often notice in liquid hydroponics fertilizers that the trace minerals or micro-nutrients are synthetic and chelated with EDTA. Check your ingredients!
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Thank you, I had not known about the grow big!! thankfully i barely used it knowing my soil had plenty of nutes for veg, and only added used it twice during flowering at the recommended 2 teaspoons per gallon. I do not think it will be an issue flushing my plants to get the excess out.
 
varscience21

varscience21

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I've tried both not flushing and flushing and there is a difference. As far as taste and harshness if there are a bunch of nutes in the plant when you harvest would it not stand to reason that they are going to be in the bud it is just plain logic. I have used all chemicals for my first grow and did not flush and it was awful to smoke super harsh and bad tasting and that was with a proper dry and cure. My second grow I did flush and there was a huge difference. I have switched over to full organic now and will just water with plain the last two weeks and then harvest as suggested by a lot of organic growers and see how that goes. I dont know about that article posted that says that flushing is bad and causes undew stress. I think whoever wrote that either has never smoked chemy weed or just wanted to her himself speak. It makes a compelling argument but it just mainly focuses on how people not growing their plants correctly and data that the reason it is harsh to smoke or taste bad or both is because you screwed up drying and curing it basically says that nobody knows what there doing if they have to flush which is just BS. The writer seems to be in the belief that if you do something wrong to your plant at any time you're just screwed. well I don't what crazy plants he is growing but that is just not true. Anyway I think if you're going to use Chemn nutes then flush and I amnut really sure about organic yet.
 
snew

snew

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canefan said:
Been growing since 1968, always organically and truthfully wouldn't know how to flush....lol. Over the years I have changed ingredients to my mix but all most all to the same end result. I honestly can't remember a harsh crop that I dried and cured properly, of course I have been lazy at times or forgetful. That being said I certainly can't see why I would want to stress my plant the last week or two. On these forums you see all this talk about stress for this or that and the do's and don'ts to make your plant stress free and then want to starve the poor girl when organically there is no need. In essence you are destorying the soil that you have made and all the microbes you have been building for months.
I have started growing in containers the past 3 years which is certainly different than in raised beds or straight into the ground. I still have great worm populations in each container when the grow is over, to flush throughly would damage this, microbes and the worms.
Thanks for all the great posts to read and add to my library for the future. I think that if you use plain water maybe a touch of hydrogen peroxide in the water....this makes it have the same basic properties of rainwater, the last watering or two and take your time to dry properly (not a quick dry), the dry should be as slow as possible given the conditions and cured for at least a month before smoking. Doing this I promise you will never have harsh smoke.
Thanks again for the links and posts Happy Growing and Merry Christmas to all
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So do you keep yours green until the end? I'm letting 1 fade out right now since everyone says its better smoke. In the past I've kept mine green and after proper curing it was a very smooth smoke. But I'm willing to try what works.
 
Mayor Quimby

Mayor Quimby

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There was a great Thread on HG420 about this very subject. To sum up a long deleted thread, less is more. I Started to use a 1/3 of foxfarm recommendation and increased my yield. The smoke is smooth and very little ash. I give my babies what they need and nothing more nothing less.
 
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