New School Organics with Professor Matt "Veganics" Rize

**Matt Rize** · 09-27-2010, 01:30 AM

Welcome new school organic growers. This thread is for the new school organic growers who are into:
soluble organic products, liquid and dry.
soil-less organic potting mixes, ie bio terra plus.
advanced organic systems.
hydro organics, (ie natures nectar).
indoor organics under high yield situations (ie CO2 and lots of light).
light manipulations (not that new school but worth covering).
sealed indoor environments (CO2 and climate control).
advanced yield techniques AYT
bubble hash (is that new school? doesn't really matter, I <3 hash).
local organic farmers, and farmer's markets because I love them too.
pretty much anything you would consider to be new school organics.
new school ways to smoke/vape/consume that are clean and pure like your organics deserves.
vegan organics, (link in my signature).
butane-less smoking, (ie solar, bee line, wood match).
super flushing, (in soil-less).
weird energy manipulations like singing to your plants and crystals.
biodynamic practices, (not new school at all but interesting and should be here somewhere).
lunar cycles (not so new school, but worth bringing in on this thread).
molasses + microbes.
organic soluble products of the future (ie mayan microzyme microbe starter).
the california concentrate scene (CO2 extracts, O2 extracts, Sonic separations, Delta 9, full melt bubble, even 'tane).

Old schoolers: I appreciate everything you do, but PLEASE, lets keep this strictly positive and about new school organics. We all appreciate what a proper soil-food web can do with teas. SB 420 allows us to recover our expenses so buying products can be fun experimentation for some. Indoor gardens further allow us to do crazy things, like messing with light and CO2. NEW SCHOOL ORGANICS ONLY PLEASE. Thank you all for reading and contributing.

I got so much +rep for bringing plant based organics back into the light that I thought I would go deeper.
If there is interest I will go on...

**sandmonkey** · 09-27-2010, 04:37 AM

cool. I'm in

and speaking of "weird energy manipulations", check this out:

ORMUS: an Ancient Secret Rediscovered

**Matt Rize** · 09-27-2010, 06:36 AM

Great! Much more to follow once the sun comes up. No trolls complaining that I am posting in the wrong forum yet.

**upthearsenal** · 09-27-2010, 07:10 AM

you know i'm in, and btw, happy frog isn't soil-less. did you mean light warrior?

**HotPhyre** · 09-27-2010, 09:32 AM

Soil-less organinc Happy frog!

Havent heard of that, how much per bag!!

**fdd2blk** · 09-27-2010, 09:34 AM

Originally Posted by Matt Rize

Great! Much more to follow once the sun comes up. No trolls complaining that I am posting in the wrong forum yet.

^^ this post just made YOU the troll.

why can't you just share good info without the attitude? it's gonna end up getting you in trouble.

**karri0n** · 09-27-2010, 09:41 AM

I'm trained in energy work for therapeutic and spiritual purposes, and my plants definitely respond very well if I use energy work on them.

This isn't really "new school", but it's l;ittle known and growing in popularity recently, so I can see it being considered new school. It's about taking organic to the next level - it's called biointensive gardening, also used to be called biodynamic, which you listed, and I've heard the term "french intensive" as well. It came about in the 60s and 70s when organic was a new, big thing, but being the 60s and 70s, there were some real radicals and they tended to go WAAAAAY overboard with the stuff(to the benefit of the regular people). They basically put all the different organics methods together, figuring out what works and what doesn't, and which things work best together, to come up with the perfect means of growing massive amount of crops in very small amounts of land, while being completely self sustainable. This includes the use of raised beds, zero soil compaction, companion planting, crop rotation, composting and mulching(including specific crops for better compost production), green manures, specialized plant spacing methods, and a whole bunch more things that I can't even remember at this time.

A good book on the subject is called "how to grow more vegetables" by John Jeavons. This has been the definitive resource for biointensive gardening for years.

**Matt Rize** · 09-27-2010, 10:55 AM

Originally Posted by upthearsenal

you know i'm in, and btw, happy frog isn't soil-less. did you mean light warrior?

Sha! Yeah, d'oh. Thanks for the correction and for contributing! I'd +rep ya if I could. Other examples: Coconot, Bio Terra Plus, Coco, peat/perlite mixes.

**Matt Rize** · 09-27-2010, 10:58 AM

Originally Posted by fdd2blk

why can't you just share good info without the attitude? it's gonna end up getting you in trouble.

Your posts will be ignored, do not freak. Your posts are welcome if you have something POSITIVE TO CONTRIBUTE. Thank you.

**Matt Rize** · 09-27-2010, 11:03 AM

Originally Posted by karri0n

I'm trained in energy work for therapeutic and spiritual purposes, and my plants definitely respond very well if I use energy work on them.
A good book on the subject is called "how to grow more vegetables" by John Jeavons. This has been the definitive resource for biointensive gardening for years.

AWESOME! Hope to hear more from you about this, as you are an expert. I would love to hear more about how your plants respond to these not-so-scientific methods. I know it is not new school, but energy manipulations are something used heavily by the new schoolers so I wanted to bring that into this thread too. Big up!