Vegan Organics Aka Veganics With Matt Rize

Whattup Matt and the rest of team Veganic.

I am super amped right now! I got to spend 6+ hours learning from Kyle Kushman at a Medical Cannabis conference called Know-Can in Albuquerque. We got his full shabang in a veganics basics and advanced techniques two part lecture. Danks a lot Kyle!

I gave him some of my veganic blackberry kush and he was surprised to see some veganic flowers in NM. I was very honored when the next day he gave me props and commented that he could tell it was veganic by both the quality and smoothness. He even reassured me that he 'wasn't blowing smoke up my a**' and that he usually takes samples and passes them on because organic is even tasting a bit harsh to him now. He lit up that big Kushman smile after sampling some 70 micron ice wax on top of a bowl of the same flowers. I felt like young annakin blazing up with yoda.

So his method is now VERY similar to Rize Up veganics with some differences. He plugged biocanna and basically using it HEAVY on top of Manna Mix plus the usual products listed earlier in this thread for NPK supplementation (NN Nitrogen, Technaflora soluble seaweed, and Humbolt Natural bloom). He recommended using tea (carbs plus soluble innoculants in pure water, he uses myco madness and OG tea) and enzymes as a base for every feeding and feeding every watering. His nutes are still in the works, his photos of plants grown on the test formula looked great. He is very positive, knowledgeable, and all about dedication of ones whole being to nurturing our gardens. Thanks for all the tips and sharing the detailed knowledge.

Originally Posted by Bird Gymnastics

I used to start with pure coco coir and peat moss as my base but I have found almost identical results just using Promix BX. I mix my soil in percentages rather then cups. For example, if I'm filling one of my 50 gallon containers with soil, I will use 1 gallon containers as my "cup" and mix accordingly. I like to do about 20-25% EWC, so for every 4 "cups" of soil I will mix in 1 "cup" of EWC. Make sense? Lol
So this is my mix: (w/ ProMix)
- 25% EWC
- 10% Kelp Meal
- 10% Perlite
- 5% Neem Cake

I mix approximately 1/2-1 cup great white, water it in and let it sit for about 2-4 weeks.

My Actual mix:
- 40% Pure Coco Coir (Canna)
- 10% Peat Moss
- 20% EWC
- 15% Perlite
- 10% kelp meal
- 5% neem cake

This also gets the great white as well as a cup full of dolomite lime.

Im new to vegan. Do you use a vegan tea with this mix if so whats the recipe

HAs anyone tried the soil?BioCanna Terra if I am not wrong, any reviews?

Its awesome, just very hard to get in the USA.

I know a site where I can purchase it so no problem^^I'm in Europe..I just need some reviews pls and feedback maybe some infos on the nutes how are they?Would you recommend them?Hows the taste?Do I need flush?

Obviously you did not read the thread. ?'s are cool if you are willing to get caught up and not make everyone repeat themselves. Look earlier on in the thread when Matt was using and reusing the Bio Terra Plus and all your questions will be answered. This whole thread is about the answers to those questions. In short:

The nutes are high quality, based on fermented plant extracts and can be a bit weak in the micros and overall in 'pushed' garden scenarios. They need a very fortified mix and BTPlus is just that, the best thing that Matt could find with the BioCanna line. Kushman uses Manna Mix by Vital Earth's, dunno if thats in Europe yet.

Most of us use and recommend these nutes, even though they are pricey and need supplementation of micros, and NPK in high yield scenarios. The main reason is quality of finished product. The taste will be more complex, stronger and smoother than the same strain grown with pooganics. The main difference I note is the smoothness and utmost resin production. Personally I have not gotten pooganics yields with my 3 complete veganics runs.

Do you need to flush? I'll let you figure that one out for yourself, based on your definition of what a flush is and the lack of poo and synth in the veganic rootzone.

Educate me if you will but wouldn't standard Hydro Nutes be Vegan approved? They're all chemical salts, no animal products at all.

"yes," but then I ask you, what "vegan" makes a habit out of consuming/using products that are chemical/synthetic?

The key terminology here is "veganics" which = vegan organics, so in that sense, no, chemical nutes are not organic therefore not veganic.