Vegan Organics Aka Veganics With Matt Rize

Originally Posted by + WitchDoctor +

Oh by the way guys, I just noticed for the first time today the General Hydroponics logo on my AzaMax...I never realized that GH made it...and it's OMRI. So that probably puts the whole "we don't believe in certifications argument to rest huh? Although they did raise concern about their secret formulas...but I'd think they'd have had the same concerns for AzaMax.

I'm pretty sure they just buy that product from another source in bulk and re-label it. There is at least one other "Aza" product out there (Azatrol) that's in the exact same bottle and all. Same formula, dosage, etc...

Originally Posted by Wolverine97

I'm pretty sure they just buy that product from another source in bulk and re-label it. There is at least one other "Aza" product out there (Azatrol) that's in the exact same bottle and all. Same formula, dosage, etc...

Oh ok. I had never noticed the GH logo on it either.

Originally Posted by + WitchDoctor +

Sounds good man, $40 dollars a gallon isn't bad. You know the Nature's Nectar P isn't vegan though right? It's poop-based. But the NN N and the NN K are both vegan. I use the N, it's great stuff.

Yeah but it's clear, odorless, and contaminant free, so i gave them all a go...the P is more similar to a rock phosphate than a guano in the state and availability it's in; from my understanding Either way the i've heard it produces super clean medicine. which is always my focus. A little early to tell, but it looks like 1.5-3 oz/plant, so yield was decent too.

next run will be a side by side comparison; 6 in supersoil, 6 plant based

Anything new and fantastic happening in the veganics world?? Anyone trying out new products/techniques?

Isn't floralicious a vegan organic bottled nute? i think that's what i see at the shop, but i never hear anyone using it, maybe i'm wrong...

WitchDoctor, you're always having bright fucking ideas on these boards, what strains are you smokin/growin? I really like that one with expanding your coco brick with tea, fuckin' brilliant! haha, why hasn't anyone else mentioned to do that, and weren't you the one with the N worms and a seperate bin for the PK? Any update on that?

Originally Posted by blueJ

Anything new and fantastic happening in the veganics world?? Anyone trying out new products/techniques?

Isn't floralicious a vegan organic bottled nute? i think that's what i see at the shop, but i never hear anyone using it, maybe i'm wrong...

WitchDoctor, you're always having bright fucking ideas on these boards, what strains are you smokin/growin? I really like that one with expanding your coco brick with tea, fuckin' brilliant! haha, why hasn't anyone else mentioned to do that, and weren't you the one with the N worms and a seperate bin for the PK? Any update on that?

Ahh thanks Blue! I started a journal, but I've gotta get some pics tomorrow before I publish it, and repotted the some OG Kush and some White Rhinos. Right after I dumped 5 gallons of compost tea and 5 gallons of RO water over 2 bales to start my mix haha. And I know, I think I've been smoking myself SMARTER lately lol.

I'm gonna flip them in a week. I'm going to do a side-by-side with 2 OG Kush getting 5 ml of Humboldt Natural Bloom as my P boost getting 5 ml for week 2-3 after flip and 7.5 ml weeks 4-5, and 2 OG Kush getting just compost tea with the high PK compost my little guys have been working on for me for the P boost. I don't know if it's going to be enough, but I still don't have enough compost to actually mix it into the soil mix yet, as I've only had this bin going for like 5 or 6 weeks. I'm just super excited to try "something" lol.

But I mean shit, I know for a fact I'm getting N in my teas from using alfalfa, and we know using guanos in teas is more effective than mixing it or top dressing....so I feel like even if I don't get as good of a yield with the 2 getting tea I'll at least have a starting point for how much compost I think should be mixed into the soil for next time.

And then I guess I'll do a side-by-side with the Rhinos as well, but I'll give two of them the Natty Bloom and two of them a tea with just straight up high PK ashes, instead of compost. If the worm-compost idea doesn't work the way I think it will, hopefully this will.

But yea, I should be able to catch up and get that journal posted tomorrow...just don't wanna half ass it since I've been talking about it so much lol.


Oh, and yea floralicious is vegan, and I think it's just about as organic as most of the GO line. I've never used it.

Have any of you guys tried your hand at grafting two strains together? I watched a video on it the other day, looks really easy surprisingly. I've never kept mother plants because it's so inconvenient, I just take some cuttings before I flip. But I'm thinking about making a mother with 4 or 5 different strains on her and keeping CFLs on her to keep her from growing fast.

Any thoughts anybody? BlueJ? I know this isn't the advanced technique forum or whatever, but we're bored right? Lol.

Biocanna is no longer available in California. I have called everywhere online selling it and they all tell me they are out and won't be getting anymore in. Anyone know where I can get a 5 liter jug of Flores?

Michigan...

dank raptor - not true - biocanna has only been pulled from shelves for relabeling........unless they've all been lying to me lol, wouldn't surprise me ha!

In socal i go to green coast hydro, they had a few on the shelves and they said the rep wasn't back with the bulk of their products relabled, one on the shelf happened to be the big brown jug of flores...