Vegan Organics Aka Veganics With Matt Rize

Originally Posted by beeznutz

haha, Roots comes with little friends inside each bag, huh? what do u think makes the gnats like Roots mix?
i'm also looking at the Sunshine Organic mixes which seem to be basic and are OMRI. is it a big deal not using any bat guano or worm castings in the mix? i found this http://www.vitallandscaping.com/inde...-compost-omri-
for adding compost, seems kosher.....

Originally Posted by Matt Rize

I heard the gnats are coming from the middle man, not from roots directly, and the gnats are affecting all the potting mixes from this middleman. ??

You got it. Word is, it's the shipping company, and effect much more then just Roots. They said the shipping company stores the bags outside, before shipping. Apparently this is a fungus gnat heaven. During transport, the adults usually are blow out, but the eggs are left behind. You start watering, and bam... gnats. I think FF soils are also having this issue, as well as some small companies using the same shipping.

Originally Posted by PakaloloHui

He's probably paid to let it get infected by people that make the products to get rid of the problem.

You never know...

Contact roots. They've been hooking their customers up with free nematodes (natural predator of the eggs/larva). Helps. I get my own at a local shop

I store my soils with a sponge soaked in a nematode solution. Water it once in awhile. spray with neem. I mix a 'super soil' so I do this while it cooks, and gets ready. Usually don't have any issues.

Originally Posted by SlightlyVaped

Thanks RP.

I am a patient and familiar with Steep Hill Labs (a few collectives in my area use them), however I am not a vendor and only make it for my own use.

Plus I'm sure they would want more material than I can pull out of my one gallon kit.

Good to hear man.

Matt nailed it. They need about 1 gram of concentrate to get you your results.

If you ever decide you want to start producing more, or want to start vending to collectives, email: [email protected]

Originally Posted by Vindicated

Matt when are you coming out with another article already, lol.

Ya Matt!

Thanks RP, I have only scene a few gnats and I easily got rid of them with a neem drench and a layer of Diatomaetious Earth on top of the soil, a sticky trap around the stalk and problem solved.

Still use my roots and got plenty of supersoil

Originally Posted by PakaloloHui

Thanks RP, I have only scene a few gnats and I easily got rid of them with a neem drench and a layer of Diatomaetious Earth on top of the soil, a sticky trap around the stalk and problem solved.

Still use my roots and got plenty of supersoil

You bet brother! No worries.

I also rock the neem to cut down those adults. A little neem, a little pro-tekt spray and the nematodes as a soil drench

Another idea, when storing your super soil... you can throw one of those nematode sponges on the soil. Then water in some nematodes from time to time. Seems to work for my soil bins.

Originally Posted by RPsmoke420

You bet brother! No worries.

I also rock the neem to cut down those adults. A little neem, a little pro-tekt spray and the nematodes as a soil drench

Another idea, when storing your super soil... you can throw one of those nematode sponges on the soil. Then water in some nematodes from time to time. Seems to work for my soil bins.

I'm using granulated BTi (like mosquito dunks but slower release and higher quality) and neem cake in my media. gnats are 99% gone with that combo.

do you guys spray anything for prevention? iv been using pest-out and it works allright, u kinda have to keep doing it weekly- is neem oil from dyna better? pest out has the neem plus a few other things in it.....
this is when is gonna get super hot and humid and i kno these little bastards r gonna attack my ladies, already starting to...

Originally Posted by Matt Rize

I'm using granulated BTi (like mosquito dunks but slower release and higher quality) and neem cake in my media. gnats are 99% gone with that combo.

Hey matt,

I got that same BTi Mosquito stuff for my koi pond, how do you apply it to your soil. ie. my supersoil bin.

Originally Posted by Matt Rize

I'm using granulated BTi (like mosquito dunks but slower release and higher quality) and neem cake in my media. gnats are 99% gone with that combo.

Good deal. Would definitely work indoors.

Make sure to use BTi, and not just BT. BT stands for bacillus thuringiensis. This is more effective with Caterpillars (moth and butterfly). Where BTi is bacillus thuringiensis israelensis and will work to control fungus gnats in an indoor situation. Outdoors, it doesn't seem to be as effective.

Originally Posted by beeznutz

do you guys spray anything for prevention? iv been using pest-out and it works allright, u kinda have to keep doing it weekly- is neem oil from dyna better? pest out has the neem plus a few other things in it.....
this is when is gonna get super hot and humid and i kno these little bastards r gonna attack my ladies, already starting to...

What are the "few other things"?

Some places will mix small amounts of chemical pesticides to make their product more effective. I am not someone who is 100% against all synthetic products, but I simply like to know what I am using.

I use Dyna-Gro cold pressed neem right now. I am not brand loyal... simply look for a 100% cold pressed neem product. I mix mine with Pro-tekt.

I use neem as my prevention. I spray early, and fairly often in veg (every 7-10 days). Outdoors I also work in some Compost Tea sprays, as well as BT sprays (battle those damn caterpillars). I work to keep my grow clean. I do not wear my daily clothes into the grow rooms. No animals (ok.... the dog sneaks in from time to time, but I'm getting better at that. lol). etc. Outside is always a battle.

Originally Posted by PakaloloHui

Hey matt,

I got that same BTi Mosquito stuff for my koi pond, how do you apply it to your soil. ie. my supersoil bin.

I'd bet Matt is rocking the granulated version of the BTi dunks. Comes in little cruched up chunks. I would work them directly into the soil. Water them in, and allow the super soil to cook like normal. Work in some neem cake along with your next super soil run. Adds some NPK and neem oil.

RP for the win! Thanks mayn