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Old 08-11-2009, 05:48 AM
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Exclamation Also looking for an organic solution...
My horrible attempts at self-diagnosis are probably causing more problems...
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10 AUG 09
Gave her 1/4t/gal. molasses, about 20oz/until it dripped through the bottom cause of "nitrogen def."
Droopy leaves (tips not petioles)
Uniform discoloration of leaves (nodes 1 and 2, very light green)
Cotyledons (yellow, shriveled, about to drop)

New growth:
4th set = 5 points
5th set = visibly coming up.

Top dressed w/ perlite (cactus mix), poked holes in soil to help aerate... I think I overwatered.

That's lengthy... sorry, and now for the stats.

22 Days Old (from germ.)
Room temp 85*F, Canopy temp 92*F, Soil temp 90*F surface, inside 82*F (meat thermometer)
Homemade CO2
Last feed: 10AUG 1/4t/gal molasses
Last pH: 9AUG ~7.0 (watered with ~7.4)
400w Mh about a foot away
Soil: 1 part homemade compost/2 parts Jiffy Organic Mix (sphagnum/vermiculite/lime for pH)
Also bubble water, and 'teas' just in case of chlorine but I think the city only runs water through activated charcoal.

Reading the plant moisture stress, self diagnose your plants, etc unfortunately isn't helping this newb...
I'm sure that I'm all effed up and could really use some help, first Mary grow...
and now the pictures...
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Old 08-11-2009, 08:52 AM
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if that 400 is only 1 foot away then take it up higher to get those temps down a lil . (they aint THAT bad but still its a lil high) other then that i think it is just a lil over watered .....Wait till they are DRY before watering again.....That mix you have should be very lightweight when it is dry, so it should not be that hard to tell. they are WAY to young for molasses in my opinion!
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if that 400 is only 1 foot away then take it up higher to get those temps down a lil . (they aint THAT bad but still its a lil high) other then that i think it is just a lil over watered .....Wait till they are DRY before watering again.....That mix you have should be very lightweight when it is dry, so it should not be that hard to tell. they are WAY to young for molasses in my opinion!
The light has been raised to 19 1/2"... Canopy temp is 89*F now and temp @ soil is 87*F.

Tried adding the molasses to correct my perceived nitrogen deficiency (uniform yellowing from the bottom up?)... If that was it, I didn't use enough or should have used something else. Any other suggestions? Heh. I do appreciate your input.

Still wondering about the crispy leaves, was it the light/heat perhaps? They were fine before all this overwatering/yellowing begun.. temps were pretty much the same and the light was lower.
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the 7.4 ph going in is too high, that is likely giving some mild nute lock, which will likely get worse
a bit of ph down should help
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the 7.4 ph going in is too high, that is likely giving some mild nute lock, which will likely get worse
a bit of ph down should help
pH testing like everything I can get my hands on right now... unfortunately with the fish tank dropper one until my meter shows up...

So far I've got:
Aerated tap water: ~7.4
distilled: ~6.5
h2o I soaked cedar mulch in: less than 6.0?
1/4t/gal molasses + 12oz budweiser: 6.4

As far as around the house natural pH downs I've only found vinegar so far... supposedly very strong at 1t/gal and you add that drop by drop to what you're adjusting checking pH as you go.
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i think your simply over watering and over worried. do you know about the finger test? take it easy, dont stress and only water when the soil is dry, good luck
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i'd be very careful of cedar mulch, that could do bad things
distilled is dead on where your water should be, 6.5
using distilled plus some nutes should improve your situation
some do use vinegar(in moderation) to adjust ph, seems to work for many
your tap water is bad, probably not worth using if you can get something better
de-ionized water is available at many chain store, about 30/40 cents a gallon, and has a ph close to distilled
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i think your simply over watering and over worried. do you know about the finger test? take it easy, dont stress and only water when the soil is dry, good luck
THIS is whats going on .... 7.4 WILL NOT cause nute lock! If its easy for you to get the distilled water then yes its better @ 6.5 but if not then use the 7.4 it is soil!
THE molasses DOES NOT CONTAIN nitrogen! and that is not the prob u have! NO BEER EITHER!








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