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I am experimenting.

If you don't want to use expensive coco nutes and or hydro nutes but want to use coco you will have to add all your own.

http://concentratesnw.com/

I can't recommend them enough.

Don't even bother looking anywhere else for a better price. I have already done that.

Coco 80%
Vermiculite by sight
Compost/Nursery mix 20%

Coco 50%
Vermiculite by sight
Pine fines 25%
Compost/Nursery mix 25%

Mix your vermiculite and coco seperate. First wet your coco bricks in a 20-60 gallon garbage can then mix vermiculite/and or pine fines.

Keep it seperate from everything else.

Fill up your pots this is for a 2 galon to 5 gallon pots step it up for bigger ones, half way filled then mix in a little nursery mix and mix it.

Add your nutes now.

1 cup micro of Glacial Rock Dust or Azomite: volcanic trace minerals

1 cup Calphos - Soft Rock Phosphate

1/8 cup Sulf of Potash

1 cup of your choice of meal ferts for veg one that is high in Nitrogen.

1 cup optional still in test of another fert meal of choice

1/2 cup of Lime with the magnesium

Optional add 1 cup Humates

Optional add Advanced nutrients Tarantula and if you want secondly add Piranha after seeds sprout for the first 2-3 weeks of veg.

This is safe to germinate your seeds in. Mix your nutes and half full pot then add more of your coco mix to the top half add a little more nursery mix. Plant seeds and water.

No more ferts needed for the entire grow. Soil is re-usable up to logical viewable standards.

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I am experimenting.

If you don't want to use expensive coco nutes and or hydro nutes but want to use coco you will have to add all your own.

http://concentratesnw.com/

I can't recommend them enough.

Don't even bother looking anywhere else for a better price. I have already done that.

Coco 80%
Vermiculite by sight
Compost/Nursery mix 20%

Coco 50%
Vermiculite by sight
Pine fines 25%
Compost/Nursery mix 25%

Mix your vermiculite and coco seperate. First wet your coco bricks in a 20-60 gallon garbage can then mix vermiculite/and or pine fines.

Keep it seperate from everything else.

Fill up your pots this is for a 2 galon to 5 gallon pots step it up for bigger ones, half way filled then mix in a little nursery mix and mix it.

Add your nutes now.

1 cup micro of Glacial Rock Dust or Azomite: volcanic trace minerals

1 cup Calphos - Soft Rock Phosphate

1/8 cup Sulf of Potash

1 cup of your choice of meal ferts for veg one that is high in Nitrogen.

1 cup optional still in test of another fert meal of choice

1/2 cup of Lime with the magnesium

Optional add 1 cup Humates

Optional add Advanced nutrients Tarantula and if you want secondly add Piranha after seeds sprout for the first 2-3 weeks of veg.

This is safe to germinate your seeds in. Mix your nutes and half full pot then add more of your coco mix to the top half add a little more nursery mix. Plant seeds and water.

No more ferts needed for the entire grow. Soil is re-usable up to logical viewable standards.
I actually think it's best to not use anything other than Pine Fines and Coco-peat!

Whatever percentage you want it doesn't matter really........50/50 70/30 ect....

The nursery mix does seem to nute burn the leaves.......

But I have had much better results adding that extra cup of ferts like soybean meal ect.....

And the Pine fines if you can find them are a great addition as if you can find a nursery that carries it will more than likely be a steal compared to the prices of coco. Also I notice better plant vigor with pine in the mix with the coco. I am no longer mixing with compost/nursery mix.

I am going to run a 70/30 pine/coco side by side with a 70/30 coco/pine next to see which medium set-up gives the better results. Mainly because pine fines are considerably cheap and much easier to acquire than coco-peat.

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I got given some coco soil from a person who uses it for tomato plants and i put my clone in it (clone just started to root). think its just straight coco soil nothing mixed with it (if possible) ?? i just put the clone straight into it .What should i feed it? should i mix it with something??
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Hey triconomics,

I've been doing the same experimenting lately trying to find a balance between the fast growth of coco and the 'fire and forget' of potting soil. My mix was was about 70% coco, 25% fox farm ocean forrest and maybe 5% perlite for shits and giggles.

I have two different phenos of NL x Skunk#1 going in this mix and what's been intriguing is that one of them is totally loving the mix and growing faster than I've ever seen and the other one did fine at first but then started looking burned and now they're falling a part completely. I checked the ph (in the low 6s) and flushed multiple times to no avail, they're still just withering away. Not really sure what to do anymore, so I think I might add some light grow nutes to see if that does anything and if it doesn't I'll just go back to soil for that plant or try straight up coco for them.

Bottom line is that it seems to me like it mostly depends on the plant your growing and it's feeding habits....anyone have any similar experiences?
 

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