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Considering that most everything you eat comes from chemical fertilizers.... the "taste" issue is a myth.

Organics are weaker and slower. That's why farmers prefer chemical fert's. You will have a good grow with both kinds of fert's if you do it correctly.

Just rememeber you can burn ur plants with organics... it just takes a long time to show up. Most ppl forget about the overload a month later and can't figure out what happened. Chem fert lets you know right away.
organics provides a steadily available supply of npk!! not thru its direct contents, because its direct contents are life!!! its bi-product is npk ... meaning the fungal and bacteria life sustain a chain of events that constantly producing npk. chemical ferts are strong because the amount of available npk to the plant is being constantly depleted by each watering. of course your plant knows the difference thats why a orgaNic grown plant looks way healthier ... its because the plant amune system learns to live with a beneficial fungal and bacterial host and provides a amunity for foreign and dangerous fungal and bacteria ... a chemical feed plant doesnt concentrate of growing amunities it just grows thats why it will looks slightly bigger than a organic crop but by no means does a chem crop look healthier nor by the slightest greener than a organically grown crop.... its proven that a organic grown plant are most likely to survive adversities during its life including drought pest fungal frost etc etc
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Organic is simply slower and less efficient. that's all. It's all the same to the plant.

The direct contents of all fert come the earth. One is simply made more efficiently.

walking is fine, until a bike comes along. Chem fert is the bike. You can still walk if you want to, but a bike is an improvement.

You can't feed the planet with organic fertilizer. Only in a country like the USA, which produces a phenomenal amount of food, can organics get a foothold in the commercial market. Only our wealth allows that market to compete (it costs more to produce).

In the third world, they use organics... if they can't get chemical. They want food, they don't have enough. Want to increase your yield by 30% using the same land? Chem fert is the answer.
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walking is fine, until a bike comes along. Chem fert is the bike. You can still walk if you want to, but a bike is an improvement.
I love the analogies.

So CrackerJax, do you think chemical ferts have any adverse effects to humans? Clearly they make plants grow faster/larger, but are they as healthy for us as they could be with organics?
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No, I don't think chemically induced fertilizers are a health concern. The true health concern is the additives placed in the food after harvest. It's the processing which is killing us all...

With organic and chemical ferts, the two methodologies and processes may vary, but they both end up at the same place... NPK.
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Organic is simply slower and less efficient. that's all. It's all the same to the plant.

The direct contents of all fert come the earth. One is simply made more efficiently.

walking is fine, until a bike comes along. Chem fert is the bike. You can still walk if you want to, but a bike is an improvement.

You can't feed the planet with organic fertilizer. Only in a country like the USA, which produces a phenomenal amount of food, can organics get a foothold in the commercial market. Only our wealth allows that market to compete (it costs more to produce).

In the third world, they use organics... if they can't get chemical. They want food, they don't have enough. Want to increase your yield by 30% using the same land? Chem fert is the answer.
did u know that in california they use organic ferts the cows eat and fertilize the field organics are not slow they are sufficient....Name one farm that uses chemical ferts i could name 2 that dont anyways why pay for nutes if they are free and suffecient makes no scence why pollute the earth>>???? ask subcool and he will tell you that organic is suffecient .. he just uses the same organic soil

from start to finish no extra stuff ... thats how i know that organics are sufficient


check it subcool soil mix it was on hightimes and he is the moderator herehttp://www.rollitup.org/subcools-old-school-organics/44686-subcools-super-soil.html
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To each their own.

However this is the best fertilizer in my book.

Not too many ways of growing Herb that I have not tried and smoked or otherwise.

The plants absolutely know the difference and most important....I do.

Healthy and potent smoke will always result for me, by using worms and bugs and scraps.

My bugs like soil....not plants.

With proper companion planting " something oddly very few I know do, "
you are able to increase their essential oils and keep the pesky critters away and have other beneficial and medicinal Herbs to contribute to the grow itself and the Health of the Trees.

People who do large grows I understand,may not feel as if they have the time to mess with all of the details of Organics.

Funny thing is however,once you have your soil alive and thriving and if small growers would consider Re-Vegging, it is very simple and sustainable and your plants will continue to give incredible smoke and as the soil continues to richen, the Trees just get better and more sticky every Re-Vegged grow.

Have done this and it works well for those that are willing to try it and learn to really appreciate the simplicity of Organics and even more important, the increased health benefits of the Herb itself, once injested.

I just LOVE hearing brothers and sister have their genius moments as we all do at times, but some of our debates in life are nill and void and this would be one of them for me.....Organics all the way.

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thees no difference in taste, blah blah, none. As far as being better for you i would say synthetic nutes would be. The only requirement organics have to meet is what the source of it is. Synthetic nutes give exactly what the plants need AND the nutrients the human need(if we are talking consuming them).
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if there weren't benefits to chemical fertilizers they wouldn't be the fert of choice for the vast majority of produce made in the modernized world.

A) They are cheap.
B) They produce outstanding results. Larger yields, faster growing times. (this proves your plants love them)
C) I found less bugs in general when using chemical ferts than using organic. Gnats fecking love blood meal and molasses...not so much miracle grow.
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if there weren't benefits to chemical fertilizers they wouldn't be the fert of choice for the vast majority of produce made in the modernized world.

A) They are cheap.
B) They produce outstanding results. Larger yields, faster growing times. (this proves your plants love them)
C) I found less bugs in general when using chemical ferts than using organic. Gnats fecking love blood meal and molasses...not so much miracle grow.
all correct, they are much more practical, hearing people say synthetic nutes are bad for you and plants is like hearing people say marijuana kills brain cells and makes you rape white women.
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It is estimated that if we all went organic we would reduce our food supply by 30%.

There is no going backwards to organics for commercial farming. Niche organic farming still has a market, only because some ppl are willing to spend the extra cash for the organic produce.

Chemical and organic are practically the same, it's just that chemical is so much more efficient.
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