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Old 10-23-2009, 11:23 AM
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Get off the beef. Beef should be once a week only. If we turned the plow on the cow fields and planted wheat grains, we could feed everyone much easier. Crops are more productive than cows per acre.
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As the article mentions...it has more to do with freshness, not which fert was used. Plants can't tell the difference between organic and commercial fert's.

Your right plants do not know what kind of ferts you are giving them, in fact plants dont know a thing because they have no conches thought, THEY HAVE NO BRAIN. But I do, and I have eyes and a tongue and I know that if i feed my plants organic nuts the Color, Flavor and natural sweetness, size of Fruit, Yield and everything you consider good about a plant culinary or not are all enhanced. If you are partially blind, dont have any taste buds, and you dont care what you are ingesting into your body go with chem nuts. But if you know anything about a good Chef who owns a Great Restaurant buys there product from local and organic farmers than you know they dont do it because its a trend, or a fad, they buy the product because they can tell a difference and so can there Customers, who havent already burnt there taste buds out with Old Age or Cigarettes. Any plant, tomato, herbs, root veg, Tubers, fruit... all grow based on what you feed them. If you dont feed them anything they will eventually know, if you feed them chem ferts they will know, if you feed them organic ferts they will know. So basically Organic ferts. will make a Tomato taste more like a Tomato, Basil taste more like Basil, and what ever strain of gang you are growing taste more like it should. Your Smoke or food should NEVER taste like Chemicals, only what it was intended to taste like.
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That's a debatable point since science so far hasn't found much difference between the two in studies.

It comes down to a personal choice. As I posted earlier, at home or locally, if you wish to pay extra for organic ... go for it.

But feeding the world at this stage can ONLY be done with chemical fert's. Organics just isn't an efficient way to grow food. As far as I can tell, the world's population has only one direction ... up.
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So, is the quality of organically produced cannabis better (using the criteria of Potency, Taste and Smell) than chemically produced?
I have to say, I mostly agree with CrackerJax on this issue.

I have actually grown a crop in which half the plants were grown organically (subcools soil mix) and half chemically (Promix + AN 3-part). The organic crop yielded about 40% less than the chemically grown crop and took about 2 weeks longer to finish. So, organic definitely seems to be less effecient than chemical ferts. On the issue of quality, I didn't notice a difference between the two. It's anecdotal, but it's my experience just the same.

This has been beat to death but it is well known in scientific/horticultural circles that plants do not pull sugars, amino acids, bat guano, bonemeal or anything else organic through the root membrane, they only pull water and ions, that's it. Chemical fertilizer = Water + ions (ie. the perfect plant food). The only reason you will hear people complaining about the "harsh chemical taste" in chemically grown bud is because most "growers", and I use that term lightly, over-fertilize. You can create the same harsh tasting plant using organics as well. There's a fine line between enough and too much, and most people cross that line and end up producing over-ferted crap. When chemical fertilizer is used in the proper proportions with correct nutrient ratios it will produce a crop of equal quality to organically produced crop, while at the same time, produce more.

My personal opinion on the subject:

I think organic and chemical based nutrients both have their place in the context of growing cannabis. I find that chemical nutrients really shine when used in a hydroponic environment where PH, nutrient concentration, and nutrient ratios can be precisely adjusted. I have never grown such a beautiful, bountiful crop as I have with a good 3-part nutrient in a hydroponic environment. On the other hand, I think soil is better suited to organic ferts because of the inherent lack of control in soil mediums.

Ultimately, in the end, to each their own.
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My personal opinion on the subject:

I think organic and chemical based nutrients both have their place in the context of growing cannabis. I find that chemical nutrients really shine when used in a hydroponic environment where PH, nutrient concentration, and nutrient ratios can be precisely adjusted. I have never grown such a beautiful, bountiful crop as I have with a good 3-part nutrient in a hydroponic environment. On the other hand, I think soil is better suited to organic ferts because of the inherent lack of control in soil mediums.

Ultimately, in the end, to each their own.
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