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Old 08-06-2009, 11:27 AM
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To all the advanced nutes users..
In soil, what flowering nutes do u use? Bud blood?

i use bud blood, big bud. carbo load and overdrive, all purchased on ebay for a great deal
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Old 08-06-2009, 11:45 AM
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How much of each do u dose ur girls with? Seems like I would get nute burn.
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i use bud blood, big bud. carbo load and overdrive, all purchased on ebay for a great deal
I second that. I'm using the same exact thing.
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Ive been to a lot of hydro stores, and the workers/owners always bash advanced nutrients at every store ive been to. All the people with access to every product, seem to think a.n. Is waaay over rated.

Just another experience... Im sure the stuff is good, but is it really worth it and do they really need to make you use 13 different products?
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Thats the common complaint from everyone! Why do you have to use so many different products? Well if you talk to a house and garden rep they will tell you. If you call AN they will tell you. Ive heard of people loving dynagrow becauase its an original base nutrient with everything in it and not pulled out. BUT at the same time plants require certain things at certain times. If you have a base nutrient with everything in it, the plant will only take what it needs leaving salt and additional build up. Being that AN has over 10 years of research Id say they found out what that is and at what time it needs to be added. Plus if you read there website they also tell you about how many other companies use products that are good, BUT you have to ask yourself what are they cut with? If your using a rootstimulant and the active ingrediant for that stimulant is only 3% what's the other 97%? AN, claims they have found the purest MOST BENEFICIAL forms of everything with the proper mixtures and less cutting agents, reducing uneccessary particles in your fertilizer. Therefor they are the SHIT. I used the bud blood on my white widow soil grow and it showed the sex in 3 days and my flower development is unlike any other experience Ive ever had with any other product. Not saying the other nutes dont work, but Id say AN found the hammer and hit the nail on the head.

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Well my dad has been growin since I can remember and I'm up on fourty years. And I'm here to tell u an works it works well and is priced fairly compared to a lot of others. So if u base ur opinions off those of others simply cause they were there first go get urself the full an line and happy smokin. Cause I say so and have been doin it longer if they in fact are doing what u say. Not cool. But don't come in here talkin like they're a scam cause they have earned a spot in this old bastards heart
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thats the common complaint from everyone! Why do you have to use so many different products? Well if you talk to a house and garden rep they will tell you. If you call an they will tell you. Ive heard of people loving dynagrow becauase its an original base nutrient with everything in it and not pulled out. But at the same time plants require certain things at certain times. If you have a base nutrient with everything in it, the plant will only take what it needs leaving salt and additional build up. Being that an has over 10 years of research id say they found out what that is and at what time it needs to be added. Plus if you read there website they also tell you about how many other companies use products that are good, but you have to ask yourself what are they cut with? If your using a rootstimulant and the active ingrediant for that stimulant is only 3% what's the other 97%? An, claims they have found the purest most beneficial forms of everything with the proper mixtures and less cutting agents, reducing uneccessary particles in your fertilizer. Therefor they are the shit. I used the bud blood on my white widow soil grow and it showed the sex in 3 days and my flower development is unlike any other experience ive ever had with any other product. Not saying the other nutes dont work, but id say an found the hammer and hit the nail on the head.
i dont really have a beef with house and garden, i think their products are well worth the money and they only have half the amount of products as a.n. But with all the same ingredient for the most part. And the quality is just as good (pharmacuticle grade is as good as it gets)

i use canna personally. They have been doing plant and nutrient research fo 30 years and they also claim to have the purest grade ingredients availible in the world as well ( example: Canna has pharmacuticle grade pk ect.)

i wouldnt use a one base nutrient, but canna house & garden and many others can give you everthing you need at the times you need it and its combined into 5-7 products instead of 13... Same exact thing except you dont have to buy and mix so many things.

Bottom line: They have products seperated out when they shouldnt, and it costs you time and money.

Thats a valid a true complaint, and advanced nutrients are listening and responding... They are starting to combine their products like they should have in the first place.
Example: They stoped making 2 of thier product and combined them into what they now are calling "bud candy" .

They also have products that are very similar, like a powdered booster with npk o-30-50 and another with 1-31-52... Both of them claim to be the best booster availible along with their 12 other boosters.

Just my opinion tho. I know its still a good product, just not a fan thats all.
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The guys that started house and garden were the guys doing research for canna and developing there nutes. This is not direct from the source, but from a reliable one at that. From what ive heard, one day somebody asked the guys why do you do all this research for canna and make genius nutes when you could be marketing your own and making double the money. Thats how house and garden began from my understanding and if this is true than canna is a knock off of house and garden.

For the record jberry Id say your post was the most resonable. They did combine the 2 into 1 with bud candy and every booster does claim the same thing, but without using it and perfecting it, its very hard to say that its not the best of the best. Ive used house and gardens full hydro line and cannas as well. I prefer the house and garden. I havent used AN's whole line, but I can tell you anyone willing to put up a youtube video like this knows what the hell they are doing. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OeFoKHCXpOU

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The guys that started house and garden were the guys doing research for canna and developing there nutes. This is not direct from the source, but from a reliable one at that. From what ive heard, one day somebody asked the guys why do you do all this research for canna and make genius nutes when you could be marketing your own and making double the money. Thats how house and garden began from my understanding and if this is true than canna is a knock off of house and garden.

For the record jberry Id say your post was the most resonable. They did combine the 2 into 1 with bud candy and every booster does claim the same thing, but without using it and perfecting it, its very hard to say that its not the best of the best. Ive used house and gardens full hydro line and cannas as well. I prefer the house and garden. I havent used AN's whole line, but I can tell you anyone willing to put up a youtube video like this knows what the hell they are doing. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OeFoKHCXpOU
yeah, i believe that is true. but that would mean that house and garden is the knock off, not canna. the man who left canna (mr.van de zwan) couldnt take his original and best recipies with him when he left because they were already under patend for canna, so mr.van de zwan had to make new recipies that were similar but obviously not his first choice.

i totally agree that h&g is the shit! the only reason i dont use them is bcuz i grow in plain coco and when you follow the h&g feeding chart it tells you to use shooting powder, and if you use shooting powder, that means you cant re-use the coco. it even says this on the h&g chart.

if you use canna than the coco is safe to re-use.
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For sure and I like the idea you reuse your goods. I mean why not? The house and garden was the shit in hydro, I just dont do hydro anymore. I switched to soil for the taste and so much less work. Changing water on 18 hydro buckets every week wasnt my idea of fun (deep water culture) but the root mass was unlike anything Ive ever seen. Personally I havent even used the the AN line. I just used the bud blood on my white widow and it triggered them faster than any product Ive ever used so I guess thats my reasons for backing AN a bit. But hey to each his own and if the shoe fits, walk
 

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