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Old 05-12-2009, 11:28 AM
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Talking SOIL you dont have to feed?
http://www.jasons-indoor-guide-to-or...oil-mixes.html

If you guys scroll down until you read "Soil mixes you dont have to feed"

I have a few questions about that small excerpt. Aparently if you mix a bag of each; fox farms original, ocean forest, and light warrior and also add 1 cup of PEACE of mind (5-8-4) for the most part you dont really have to add nutes to it....? maybe a little bit for flowering. but he also said that by the time hes ready to flush the neutrients already start flushing themselves.

Would this work for bud? I mean he said in the flowering stage he adds some boosters and stuff. I was planning on using this method as I dont see why it wouldn't work! its my first grow and I am trying to do it as simply as possible.

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I agree. They are usually called super soil or water only grows. Subcool has a huge forum. His super soil. I also found this. http://www.onlinepot.org/grow/goodsoil.htm . It is full of mixes. I add kelp meal and greensand to subcools mix. I am still waiting on results. I agree, water only is awesome.

I am using blood, bone, kelp, green sand, dolomite and perlite. Also I add some homemade wormcastigns. Also some extra guano. I know ocean forest mucst have a lot of N already. They say so. So these other ways might be cheaper.
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Old 05-12-2009, 07:17 PM
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Looks like a killer mix, give it a shot. Should work out well. I never knew people used the term "super soil".
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CheemDeezle .... Super Soils can and do work well, provided.... you mix them a month ahead of time..... & you don't start in this soil, it' too hot.... & you use a buffer soil when you transplant into it......
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The easiest way to do this, start your seeds using the moist paper towel method, once they've sprouted, into Jiffy Peat Pellets or Rapid Rooters they go. Then a few days later into 16 oz plastic cups with Jiffy Seed Starting Mix.
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Later use the leftover Jiffy Seed Starting Mix to make buffer soil. Add 30 percent aged compost (bagged it OK - like from Lowes, Home Depot...etc.), 50 percent Jiffy Seed Starting Mix, 10 percent Perlite and 10 percent Worm Castings.
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Fill in your container, or growing hole with the Super Soil, 70 percent of the way, then put a one to two inch layer of Buffer Soil, then set your transplant in, & fill around it with the rest of your Buffer Soil.
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By transplanting into this very mild Buffer Soil, you avoid shocking the roots with hot soil (nute rich). This also ensures the area the roots first come into contact with is loose and easy for roots to grow / push through......
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http://www.jasons-indoor-guide-to-or...oil-mixes.html

If you guys scroll down until you read "Soil mixes you dont have to feed"

I have a few questions about that small excerpt. Aparently if you mix a bag of each; fox farms original, ocean forest, and light warrior and also add 1 cup of PEACE of mind (5-8-4) for the most part you dont really have to add nutes to it....? maybe a little bit for flowering. but he also said that by the time hes ready to flush the neutrients already start flushing themselves.

Would this work for bud? I mean he said in the flowering stage he adds some boosters and stuff. I was planning on using this method as I dont see why it wouldn't work! its my first grow and I am trying to do it as simply as possible.

Thank you everyone!
I've known that mix of fox farm's stuffs as "Moonshine mix".

It works. Might have to add something here or there depending on the plants exact needs. I don't make moonshine mix, but I add a buncha good stuff to promix and only water with EWC tea (molasses + ewc) and any other fertilizer when needed.

Some people would rather buy individual components and mix it all up. Others would buy a few different kinds of fox farm stuff and mix. If it works, and you like it, do it.
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nah, my plants dont want a package once deal only. these girls love to be fed there 3 day aerated teas. they seem to enjoy the trillions of beneficial bacterial which are festering in there fully oxegenated home.
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I am using a super soil of my own and I will still feed worm castings teas and so on. I will want to replenish and feed the bacteria.

I also think it will be cool that the plants can eat whenever they want when the soil is "super". lol.

That mix is better than I thought as that is the exact amount of soil I use each grow. This time I mixed all the blood and boneand kelp my self. The peace of mind sounds fun. Shit, I just bought a bag of organcic fert for my outdoor herbs. They are regular cars though and not mj indies.
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CheemDeezle .... Super Soils can and do work well, provided.... you mix them a month ahead of time..... & you don't start in this soil, it' too hot.... & you use a buffer soil when you transplant into it......
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The easiest way to do this, start your seeds using the moist paper towel method, once they've sprouted, into Jiffy Peat Pellets or Rapid Rooters they go. Then a few days later into 16 oz plastic cups with Jiffy Seed Starting Mix.
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Later use the leftover Jiffy Seed Starting Mix to make buffer soil. Add 30 percent aged compost (bagged it OK - like from Lowes, Home Depot...etc.), 50 percent Jiffy Seed Starting Mix, 10 percent Perlite and 10 percent Worm Castings.
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Fill in your container, or growing hole with the Super Soil, 70 percent of the way, then put a one to two inch layer of Buffer Soil, then set your transplant in, & fill around it with the rest of your Buffer Soil.
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By transplanting into this very mild Buffer Soil, you avoid shocking the roots with hot soil (nute rich). This also ensures the area the roots first come into contact with is loose and easy for roots to grow / push through......
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I have read that when sprouting seeds to use low ppm water. The roots have microscopic hairs that get torn away with the paper towel method. I have used both methods and could really tell no difference?
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I have read that when sprouting seeds to use low ppm water. The roots have microscopic hairs that get torn away with the paper towel method. I have used both methods and could really tell no difference?
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I've been starting them in paper towels, since 78. I've never found a better way yet. Just inspect them daily, and into a moist peat pellet or rapid rooter once the root tip is out.........
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The germination rate has always been better for me in the paper towel, over starting in soil, peat pellets or rapid rooters.
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Clean water (lower ppm) is a good thing also. The seed contains all it needs to start except additional oxygen & water........ no ferts or add-ins are needed.......
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Yes, I've been using the paper towel method as well for quite some time. Better success with that than anything else. As far as the root hairs being torn you just need to plant as Ohsogreen said once the root tip is showing and not allow the root to grow too long in the paper towels. As far as water, I use distilled water. Looking into purchasing a reverse osmosis machine. People look at me like I'm crazy when we buy so much water not that it matters but it would be cheaper in the long run as well. Good luck with your grow and P.S using nutes really isn't that difficult. Read a bit about it on here and the instructions that come with it and you'll be fine or you can go with the super soil method, either way, its your choice.
 

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